Open 785: Secrets of the Anuket Topaz [Game over!]

[Eevee]

Maybe A50 is just good as scum and deliberately made that case and all my other tells were a lie.

Does Ydrasse stay in a Ydrasse/S_S team?? Does S_S mind playing scum? Does anyone know?

~Eva

[the worst]

look within yourself: do you think a50 thinks he was going to get that elim through before SS escaped?
if yes: he's town
if no: his partner equity is thru the roof

fyi on readthrough i sincerely did not think he thought he would get the elim but i'm lowkey kinda reserving to people who actually had a vibe for that end of phase

[the worst]

a50 also played this as scum. which was a closed setup in uuuhhh, the same family as this setup (they're both influenced by an older setup but i think anuket topaz is very consciously/intentionally an improvement on the concept; i digress)

what does this tell me?
not much because i can't really be bothered working out a50's core meta tells
BUT!!! it does tell us that he has a taste for what scum need to do to survive

x

amount of time
if he's scum in this setup he's trying to survive this phase. he was trying to get his partner to survive the previous phase. i think he probably would have preferred not bussing d1, but i'm not sure i have a strong enough impression.

[the worst]

Votecount 1.6

Mohab500

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(3):

Eevee (71), Craig Pelton (73), Umlaut (88)

Craig Pelton

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(3):

Fredrick A Campbell (70),

Homura

(109), HoldenGolden (129)

HoldenGolden

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(1):

Raya36 (21)

Homura

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(1):

Ydrasse (10)

Not Voting

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(5):

Sujimichi, Snowblaze, Chemist1422, Mohab500 (51), RCEnigma (89)

With 13 alive, it’s 7 to lynch. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2020-07-14 12:17:59).

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Menalque

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Homura

(109), HoldenGolden (129), Ydrasse (182)

Mohab500

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Eevee (71), Umlaut (88)

HoldenGolden

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(1):

Raya36 (21)

Snowblaze

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(1):

Fredrick A Campbell (181)

Ydrasse

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(1):

Menalque (208)

Not Voting

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(5):

Sujimichi, Snowblaze, Chemist1422, Mohab500 (51), RCEnigma (89)

With 13 alive, it’s 7 to lynch. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2020-07-14 12:17:59).

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Mohab500

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(4):

Eevee (71), Umlaut (88), RCEnigma (238), Fredrick A Campbell (247)

Menalque

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HoldenGolden (129), Ydrasse (182)

HoldenGolden

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(1):

Raya36 (21)

Ydrasse

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(1):

Menalque (208)

Not Voting

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(5):

Sujimichi, Snowblaze, Chemist1422, Mohab500 (51),

Homura

(235)

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Mohab500

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Menalque

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HoldenGolden (129), Ydrasse (182)

RCEnigma

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Eevee (292), Menalque (296)

HoldenGolden

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(1):

Raya36 (21)

Chemist1422

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(1):

Fredrick A Campbell (345)

Not Voting

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(5):

Sujimichi, Chemist1422, Mohab500 (51),

Homura

(235), Snowblaze (330)

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Almost50

replaces

Homura

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Snowblaze

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(5):

HoldenGolden (511), Fredrick A Campbell (522), Menalque (532), Ydrasse (552),

Almost50

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RCEnigma

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(3):

Snowblaze (415), Mohab500 (502), Eevee (547)

Raya36

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(1):

RCEnigma (497)

HoldenGolden

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Raya36 (495)

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Something_Smart, Chemist1422, Umlaut (521)

With 13 alive, it’s 7 to lynch. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2020-07-14 12:17:59).

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HoldenGolden (511), Fredrick A Campbell (522), Menalque (532), Ydrasse (552),

Almost50

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(3):

Snowblaze (415), Mohab500 (502), Eevee (547)

HoldenGolden

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Raya36 (495)

Mohab500

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Umlaut (596)

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Something_Smart, Chemist1422

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HoldenGolden (511), Menalque (532), Ydrasse (552),

Almost50

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Umlaut (596), Fredrick A Campbell (608), Eevee (622)

RCEnigma

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Snowblaze (415), Mohab500 (502)

HoldenGolden

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Raya36 (495)

Not Voting

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Something_Smart, Chemist1422, RCEnigma (612)

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HoldenGolden (511), Menalque (532), Ydrasse (552),

Almost50

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RCEnigma

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Mohab500 (502)

Not Voting

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(3):

Something_Smart, Chemist1422, RCEnigma (612)

With 13 alive, it’s 7 to lynch. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2020-07-14 12:17:59).

which is what homura then a50 did.
i can see homura's voting patterns d1 being pretty guilty-minded; i think a50's are consistent with a scum agenda but i don't really have a read on his d1.

[the worst]

A50 d2 lazyparks ydrasse then swaps to montosh at the last moment; what was his trajectory on either of the slots like fypov? this is either opportunistically minded or he reached the conclusion he's currently reached wrt ydrasse quite a while ago

Spoiler: i wonder if titus is high fiving in my direction in the dead chat?

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Almost50

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Almost50

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Something_Smart

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Menalque (1114), Fredrick A Campbell (1117)

Not Voting

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Something_Smart, Eevee, Snowblaze

With 12 alive, it’s 7 to lynch. The Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2020-07-30 18:57:59).

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Ydrasse (953), Umlaut (1080), Raya36 (1081), Titus (1090)

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Montosh (1036), RCEnigma (1102)

Something_Smart

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Menalque (1114), Fredrick A Campbell (1117)

Ydrasse

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Almost50

(1156)

Not Voting

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Something_Smart, Eevee, Snowblaze

With 12 alive, it’s 7 to lynch. The Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2020-07-30 18:57:59).

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Almost50

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Ydrasse (953), Umlaut (1080), Raya36 (1081)

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Almost50

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Menalque

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(2):

Montosh (1036), RCEnigma (1102)

Something_Smart

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(1):

Menalque (1114)

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Something_Smart, Eevee, Snowblaze

With 12 alive, it’s 7 to lynch. The Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2020-07-30 18:57:59).

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Montosh (1036), RCEnigma (1102)

Ydrasse

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Almost50

(1156), Titus (1161)

Something_Smart

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Fredrick A Campbell (1267)

Montosh

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(1):

Menalque (1284)

RCEnigma

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Eevee (1299)

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With 12 alive, it’s 7 to lynch. The Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2020-07-30 18:57:59).

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Almost50

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Ydrasse (953), Umlaut (1080)

RCEnigma

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Montosh

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Fredrick A Campbell (1345)

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Almost50

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Menalque

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Montosh (1036), RCEnigma (1102)

Montosh

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Umlaut (1382), Fredrick A Campbell (1384)

Something_Smart

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Raya36 (1408), Ydrasse (1413)

Not Voting

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Something_Smart, Snowblaze, Eevee (1396)

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Montosh (1036), RCEnigma (1102), Eevee (1430), Fredrick A Campbell (1432), Ydrasse (1438)

Ydrasse

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(3):

Almost50

(1156), Titus (1161), Menalque (1360)

Something_Smart

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(1):

Raya36 (1408)

Montosh

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(1):

Umlaut (1382)

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Something_Smart, Snowblaze

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Almost50

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Menalque

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Montosh (1036), RCEnigma (1102), Ydrasse (1438)

Something_Smart

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(2):

Raya36 (1408), Fredrick A Campbell (1478)

Montosh

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Umlaut (1382)

Raya36

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Something_Smart (1519)

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Snowblaze, Eevee (1491)

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Almost50

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Montosh (1036), RCEnigma (1102), Ydrasse (1438)

Something_Smart

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(1):

Fredrick A Campbell (1478)

Montosh

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Umlaut (1382)

Raya36

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(1):

Something_Smart (1519)

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Snowblaze, Raya36 (1549)

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Almost50

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Montosh (1036), RCEnigma (1102)

Something_Smart

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Fredrick A Campbell (1478)

Raya36

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Something_Smart (1519)

Almost50

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Ydrasse (1573)

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With 12 alive, it’s 7 to lynch. The Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2020-07-30 18:57:59).

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Almost50

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Almost50

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Ydrasse (1573), Raya36 (1620), Montosh (1633)

Raya36

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Something_Smart (1519)

Something_Smart

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RCEnigma (1653)

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With 12 alive, it’s 7 to lynch. Montosh has been lynched.

[Eevee]

!!! Titus did say A50 or Ydrassse was scum from VCA !!!

~Eva

[the worst]

literally my only reservation is that SS didn't give a fuck about a50's case on him; but then again SS isn't like.....a super huge fan of theatre? especially when forcing the dialogue might accidentally bring them into the spotlight

Spoiler:

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Menalque

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Something_Smart

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Snowblaze (1692)

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Umlaut, Fredrick A Campbell, Something_Smart, Almost50, Eevee (1687)

With 11 alive, it’s 6 to lynch. The Day 3 deadline is in (expired on 2020-08-11 20:41:59).

The good news is: I am home
The bad news is: I am beat and really need to sleep

I'll probably read back tomorrow, but right now I will do this:

VOTE: S_S

I am assuming AT LEAST one scum bus'd and one didn't. The 3 unconfirmed on Mae's wagon were Raya, Ydrasse & S_S. I think the scum of them likely fence-sat yesterday, in an attempt not to be caught on a miselimination. "I was on the scum wagon but not on the Town wagon" is a good defence from scum PoV. S_S is the one that fits the profile. Ydrasse & RTaya were both on me, and I was this close to being eliminated myself. If that had happened they'd have looked bad (almost as bad as Menalque does for many), so I conclude S_S is the one scum ON the Mae wagon, but I really can't decide whether the 2nd scum was also on the Mae wagon (Ydrasse) or the Snow wagon (Menalque). (My problem is Menalque has been promoting himself as a GOOD scum player, and I did witness his Scum game once and he was indeed good, so I am not sure if this is his bad town play or his attempt on being too scummy to be scum.)

Aside from that, S_S is play is reminding me of his play in the previous game (with me and Menalque) when he was Scum. He looks disengaged and rarely intervenes. He refused to bus in that game though, and that's what kept him off the bottom of my readlist here, but the thing is I can't see Raya+Ydrasse as a team that double bus'd and then decided to powerpush me on D2 too. In fract, I don't think this is Raya's scum game at all, so it's either S_S or Ydrasse (or both). Oh, and the reason I firmly believe at least one scum bus'd is the fact I know I'm Town and the confidence I have in my TR on RCE.

Disclaimer: Sleep on this for 24 hours if you will. I don't even know if what I've just typed reflects my thoughts accurately or not, because I am

falling asleep already

. Please do ask me for elaboration on whatever you think doesn't make sense or is unclear to you and I will respond when I come back next (in less than 12-16 hours ideally, but give it up to 24 hours at max)

Like how often does a mislynching wagon have all town on it?

Way more often than a lot of people think.

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Menalque

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Titus (1688), Menalque (1715)

Something_Smart

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(2):

Snowblaze (1692), Almost50 (1745)

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Umlaut, Fredrick A Campbell, Something_Smart, Eevee (1687)

With 11 alive, it’s 6 to lynch. The Day 3 deadline is in (expired on 2020-08-11 20:41:59).

Nothing new here. It's still the same story of "It's A50/Menalque.. no it isn't,, yes it is.. let's eliminate A50.. mo let's do Menalque."

Let me tell you that I'm confident both scum are being wagoned as we speak. I am just voting the one I'm more confident in, and since the game uses plurality; I don't think I'll be switching my vote in the foreseen future.

I'm here.

I still feel like Menalque is probably town and well if he isn't either he flees and we get a shitton of info or he stays and we have another chance to kill him.

VOTE: Ydrasse

[the worst]

soulread: Titus would engage me about the idea of scum!A50

*wistful sigh~*

if we want to take a very literal read i ///think/// titus would vote a50 today and is a very good a50 nk.

[Eevee]

This is enlightening. Does A50 drop that case specifically on D3 so he can win today?

Also, something that still sticks out to me is S_S saying "a double bus is legit insane" - I think he was telling the truth with that. Why double bus when they can hammer and *try* to talk their way out of it tomorrow? It guarantees 1 mislynch.

~Eva

[Raya36]

I went back through to see why I cleared A50. I had the same reason. That case on SS and how if it was scum theatre I'd expect SS to interact more. But if SS doesn't like theatre enough to not interact that would explain that. But it's hard to say since when I'm scum I try to take cases on me with a grain of salt and not overreact so it also could just be that.

Also I'm not really interested in RCE anymore.

[Raya36]

Honestly if everyone wants to go for A50 I'm willing to. I'm between A50 and Ydrasse now and this is actually kind of convincing

[Eevee]

Ages ago, we also had a plan of just lynching inside the Snow wagon; it's very unlikely both scum bussed, so as long as we don't leave it, there's a good chance of getting one scum. Maybe we go back to that?? ?

~Eva

[Eevee]

I kinda wanna go A50 now, yeah. Seriously, is it likely both scum bussed?

~Eva

[Eevee]

I don't know if I should sleep on it or just go for it; I feel like this is a good choice.

~Eva

[Raya36]

Ages ago, we also had a plan of just lynching inside the Snow wagon; it's very unlikely both scum bussed, so as long as we don't leave it, there's a good chance of getting one scum. Maybe we go back to that?? ?

~Eva

So if I recall correctly that makes the pool RCE and A50.
Me and Yrdasse were on the scum wagon I think

[Raya36]

I think I'll go for it. I have no idea what the VC is though so consider my vote on A50 and I'll see where were at when I get home tonight

[Eevee]

Okay, let's go! VOTE: Almost50

There's one on A50 right now (Fredrick). If the game is still going when I wake up tomorrow, I'll think about it, but ??? ??

~Eva

[Raya36]

Ok and it's 5 to eliminate so I'm safe to vote too as long as the next person claims intent

VOTE: Almost50

[the worst]

VOTE: 49

[the worst]

oh he's l-1

[the worst]

i wonder if ydrasse is just scum. lol.

[Raya36]

Idk if that vote counted or not but UNVOTE: . I want to hear from a50 first and don't want scum to quick hammer if were wrong

[Raya36]

i wonder if ydrasse is just scum. lol.

I don't think getting to E-1 quickly is town-indicative if that what you're implying?

[the worst]

oh it's not, i was wondering if ydra would lolhammer

[Umlaut]

I could do A50. (I could have done A50 day 2, remind me why we didn't do it then?)