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Post Post #2400 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 2:32 pm

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In post 2307, Imperium wrote:I'm open to lynching AP on the basis of play because I don't townread much in his posts. I don't particularly want to lynch him because he can be one of the strongest town players in the game, but at this point, I would.

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Post Post #2401 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 2:33 pm

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In post 2399, Solar Wind wrote:
In post 2396, Imperium wrote:
In post 2385, Solar Wind wrote:
In post 2232, Imperium wrote:
In post 2231, Cephrir wrote:beast is a much better lynch than tso.

softclaim screams town
tso not doing shit except lazy vote on us for the not conniving bastards thing sucks

You think TSO doesn't do shit as scum? Because scum-TSO can actually put loads of effort into the game.

In post 2234, Imperium wrote:correct lynch of the day is probably just peregrine.
there's a lot to analyze in other people's play/reasons not to lynch them right now
let's not lynch peregrine because possibility of added utility down the road is meh and bleh

Um, no. That's not my primary reason for not wanting to lynch Peregrine. My reason is that when he actually does get active, it will be easy to tell whether he's town or scum. Lynching him before that happens is suboptimal. I've since become less and less confident that he will town it up but not to the extent that I'll push his lynch D1.

I know tso does shit as scum. I know tso does shit as town. I also know his activity is directly correlated to emotional investment and that can sometimes be harder to find as scum than town.
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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=48144

Is that an active TSO-scum game? If so, useless.
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Post Post #2402 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 2:37 pm

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In post 2398, Solar Wind wrote:
In post 2302, Imperium wrote:
In post 2291, T S O wrote:One cannot be ??? AT BEST - one is just ???. Pere is not scum with a chance of ??? - Pere is ???, full stop.

And you're asserting that it's better to have no case than a bad case because... logic?

Generally, I read someone as somewhere on a sliding scale from confirmed scum to null to confirmed town. When someone is null at best, it means that treating them as 50% scum or 50% town is my most favorable interpretation of their posting.

I am not asserting anything about no case > bad case. I don't want to lynch Tiphaine because he is town. I don't particularly care about cases on him (unless they are good and change my mind) because I have a townread on him. I don't particularly care about finding a great case at this point in time: instead, I'm looking for a decent to good lynch.

See, this is the thing that bothers me so much about your slot. Are you townreading AceOfSpades? Why is he town? I'm townreading him and I have my reasons but as far as I'm concerned, you have provided none.

And yet you showed up at deadline with all your passion in full flow so you can save Ace and push a meh lynch of PV who you're not even reading as solid scum. Why wouldn't town-Nacho just let Ace get lynched? Is Ace SO much more town than PV? Do you think town will benefit from lynching a deadline lynch of your personal choice who is a null read as opposed to the one EVERYONE wants to lynch (Ace) who is also a null-read (apparently)? Because I haven't seen you say one single thing about why Ace is town.

Why would I be interested in generating mass quantities of content when the game is most malleable and impressionable? Why would I attempt to guard a weak town read and guide town to lynching a null read when I have lots of town reads elsewhere?

Hmmm. You tell me.
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Post Post #2403 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 2:39 pm

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In post 2401, Imperium wrote:Is that an active TSO-scum game? If so, useless.


It is.
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Post Post #2404 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 2:39 pm

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In post 2332, Imperium wrote:Farside seems pretty town in general, not touching that.

Meh. I had a townread earlier but some of her later posts gave me second thoughts. I doubt she's actually viable though.
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Post Post #2405 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 2:39 pm

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My vote is fucking ZERO. How does that benefit me as scum? It doesn't. These pushes on me a ridiculous. I don't even know why I am being pushed.

I guarantee my vote is higher than 0 tomorrow. You all are not lynching me today.

Also, TSO is still town so get away from that as well.

Lastly, yall have the most info about my power as a whole group so why would you want to lynch me? If I were scum you could use that to bind me into a corner. You all are going about this the wrong way.
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Post Post #2406 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 2:40 pm

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In post 2339, Imperium wrote:
In post 2335, Magua wrote:ITT Nacho decides to vote no one.

i'd vote ap.
i'd vote beastcharizard.
i'd vote mask.

who would you vote?

That's actually a way better pool than what you put out earlier. I'd vote AP.
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Post Post #2407 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 2:43 pm

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In post 2364, Solar Wind wrote:Because vysepresident is now heartless and I want to give them time to do something more useful than vyse did.

As for why not revote, we'll do that after f-16 and I talk. Right now, I kinda want to vote AP, as I indicated a few posts ago.

Sounds like a plan.

VOTE: AngryPidgeon

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Post Post #2408 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 2:46 pm

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I haven't! No guarantees, though!
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Post Post #2409 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:02 pm

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In post 2216, Imperium wrote:what would you like?
Not to lynch a townread. :P

I mean, lynching a scumread would be nice and all, but my scumreads are much weaker than my townreads are.
So work from my readslist, basically. Top tier, stay away from; mid-tier, compromise on; bottom tier is my ideal lynches.
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Post Post #2410 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:06 pm

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In post 2264, Skybird wrote:Man this thread is moving fast. I could agree to a ZZZX lynch. PV feels more town to me than scum. That's based on the last game we were in together. He sounds like he did in that game and he was town.
Still feels like scum.
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Post Post #2411 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:16 pm

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In post 2371, Solar Wind wrote:AP was a paranoia read and his lack of presence has given me hives. I'm totally comfortable voting there.
100% AP's lack of presence is a null tell. I would very much prefer not to lynch him, especially given that if he becomes cop-confirmed, then he's bulletproof, so conftown bulletproof = scum's worst nightmare. (Or he's a scum godfather but let's assume innocent = town BP for my sanity, 'kay?)
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Post Post #2412 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:19 pm

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In post 2378, farside22 wrote:Heartless hasn't made me really change views of their slot.
And I would be VERY disappointed if they lurked their way out of suspicion. Rather than, as it should be, vice-versa.
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Post Post #2413 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:26 pm

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In post 2386, Solar Wind wrote:
In post 2239, Solar Wind wrote:I don't want to lynch Mask.

A point of agreement! Although I don't remember why I don't want to lynch Mask.

The page this was on was an okay page for him.

In post 2387, Solar Wind wrote:
In post 2246, Cephrir wrote:VOTE: peregrine

It seems like you're just voting everyone that Nacho suggests we lynch...

All the ones I'm okay with. We don't have much time and I think lending him my vote whenever he wants something I don't object to is productive. Beast is also just my favorite viable lynch.

In post 2397, Imperium wrote:
In post 2387, Solar Wind wrote:
In post 2246, Cephrir wrote:VOTE: peregrine

It seems like you're just voting everyone that Nacho suggests we lynch...

Ceph-town plays support. Scumrir plays point.


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Post Post #2414 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:29 pm

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In post 2390, Solar Wind wrote:
In post 2264, Skybird wrote:Man this thread is moving fast. I could agree to a ZZZX lynch. PV feels more town to me than scum. That's based on the last game we were in together. He sounds like he did in that game and he was town.

Explain your townread on PV. I wish I had one.


I was basing that read on the last game I was in with PV. (NY177) I replaced in around game day 3 or 4. His posting seemed similar to what I remembered from that game where he was town.

But going back and re-reading his ISO from that game one thing that is markedly different is the amount of posting on day 1. After the first RL week of that game, he had 42 posts. After almost three RL weeks of this game, he only has 23 posts. He was more engaged in his posts in NY177 on day 1 and is pretty detached in this game.

The one post that at first glance feels town in this game is . In it he states he's OK with a PV lynch on day 2, 3, or 4 defending on [things]. That seems like a town thing to say until I thought that tomorrow on day 2 I suspect that whatever needed to happen during the night phase will not have occurred and he won't be OK with a PV lynch on day 2 either.

Bottom line, I am re-thinking my town read on him.
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Post Post #2415 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:38 pm

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Anyone else noticing how much Skybird's opinion seems to be the popular one?
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Post Post #2416 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:49 pm

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@ Mod
, do you mind including a countdown timer in your votecounts? It'd be more precise + having it in the votecounts makes it easier to access.
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Post Post #2417 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:58 pm

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In post 2415, mastin2 wrote:Anyone else noticing how much Skybird's opinion seems to be the popular one?


Is it my fault people are sheeping me on my beast vote? :wink:
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Post Post #2418 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:46 pm

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Anti where are you?

Are you going to make me sit here with a bottle of wine and a box of chocolates waiting for you to do something town and then just abandon me and break my heart like you did in Once Upon A Winter Night?
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Post Post #2419 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:49 pm

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Prodge. Sorry, I'll totally probably be with it soon. I've been half-reading. Don't like Beast's thing on Sky. Elaboration at some point
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Post Post #2420 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:50 pm

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you guys post too much. on page 89. Would vote mastin or beast or stay on AP now. Will read isos for reasons once i finish the thread.
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Post Post #2421 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:54 pm

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Skybird - When you replaced in, did you read the game first and then your neighborhood or how did you do that?

I can follow why Farside reads Cephrir as town. I do think that all the reasons she has him as town are things that are easily present in his scum games, but I don't think she knows that, or at least it doesn't seem like that, which makes it not feel fake. And she's reading him as town for the reasons that I've seen her town read people, so still leaning town there overall. I mean yeah I think she's town. I guess if this does turn out to be multiball, which I really think it is due to the schizophrenic posting today where it's hard to really settle on a scum read, or people are just protecting their neighbors or something, but I still like her whole thing about worrying that I would claim that my posts were nacho's as an excuse for things that didn't add up as me. (Which is kinda amusing because nacho posted something last night that sounds so similar to something I would post that I did a double take because I didn't remember posting :P )
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Post Post #2422 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:18 pm

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Post Post #2423 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:24 pm

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In post 2420, theaceofspades wrote:you guys post too much. on page 89. Would vote mastin or beast or stay on AP now. Will read isos for reasons once i finish the thread.

I just hope night is just classic night so I can read without people rocket posting.
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Post Post #2424 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:47 pm

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In post 2324, Magua wrote:Tammy, tell me who to vote.

And it has to be Tammy, I won't listen to Nacho.

PEdit: Oh, it also can't be to vote beastcharizard because I really do have a townread on him.


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