War in Heaven II - Spirit of Vengeance (Over!)

[populartajo]

Rofl, what's your fucking problem? You can only vote one player at a time in a normal game.

but you can be vocally suspicious of multiple players. i believe in common parlance its called an "FoS".

Rabbit, you think Nuwen is scum?

most likely. between killing walt and setting up a string of lynches based on the fact that walt flipped town (something she set up BEFORE killing walt i might add) i would be very supportive of any momentum to see her dead. however, she has 12 hp, and i can't effectively kill her on my own without taking more than a week to do it.

SO why are you going with xyl and not with nuwen that has more probs of being scum from your POV?

did you miss the part where i said she has 12 hp and it would take me more than a week? because the unspoken second part of that is it will be quicker to kill xyl.

and nowhere there did i say she has a higher probability of being scum than xyl.

But does she have to be scum from your POV or do you think she still can be town?

[roflcopter]

yeah, if you had 12 hp then you were more than two hits away from dying, even with my double damage hits

[roflcopter]

Same system it was from the start, except that a) mimimum number of people on a wagon is now three and not two and b) we've put together a dedicated squad to kill anyone dealing out what you call random damage.

Why do you have seraphim as town? His is the Shinnen hurt that looks most bus-like.

Gut. Answers to Rolf's accusations. It could change if both are scumbuddies, though.

seraphim's answers to my accusations have been complete bullshit

[populartajo]

But votes, Tajo, require too much consensus and stall the game.

That is a big problem but we can fix it like a normal game. Deadlines. If we dont get a consensus, the player with more votes is dead.

I mean, the only objective of this strategy is to AVOID people hurting like shit. If you suspect someone, vote for him/her. SUpport your case and you'd likely get the support of any reasonable mind.

We can spot bussing and sincere scumhunting in this scenario.

We AVOID people hurting like horses.

[roflcopter]

But does she have to be scum from your POV or do you think she still can be town?

when did you stop beating your wife?

she could be town. i don't think its likely. xyl could be town too. but if so, he should probably just go back to irc and stop trying to play forum mafia.

[populartajo]

But does she have to be scum from your POV or do you think she still can be town?

when did you stop beating your wife?

she could be town. i don't think its likely. xyl could be town too. but if so, he should probably just go back to irc and stop trying to play forum mafia.

You are not answering the question. WHo has more probs of coming scum: Xyl or Nuwen?
HP bullshit is not the answer.

[roflcopter]

reasonable cases have been posted and ignored. i made a reasonable case against xyl and the only thing people have to say about it is "OMFG ROFL STOP HURTING HIM WITHOUT SOMEONE SAYING I SUPPORT YOUR HURT IN BOLD MOTHERFUCKING TEXT YOU DONKEY TWAT"

[roflcopter]

But does she have to be scum from your POV or do you think she still can be town?

when did you stop beating your wife?

she could be town. i don't think its likely. xyl could be town too. but if so, he should probably just go back to irc and stop trying to play forum mafia.

You are not answering the question. WHo has more probs of coming scum: Xyl or Nuwen?
HP bullshit is not the answer.

they're equally likely to be scum as i believe they are both scum. therefore the "hp bullshit" is the answer, because i can kill xylthixlm sooner, and that is why i am hurting him.

[populartajo]

Same system it was from the start, except that a) mimimum number of people on a wagon is now three and not two and b) we've put together a dedicated squad to kill anyone dealing out what you call random damage.

Why do you have seraphim as town? His is the Shinnen hurt that looks most bus-like.

Gut. Answers to Rolf's accusations. It could change if both are scumbuddies, though.

seraphim's answers to my accusations have been complete bullshit

No. It makes sense from a townie point of view.

[populartajo]

But does she have to be scum from your POV or do you think she still can be town?

when did you stop beating your wife?

she could be town. i don't think its likely. xyl could be town too. but if so, he should probably just go back to irc and stop trying to play forum mafia.

You are not answering the question. WHo has more probs of coming scum: Xyl or Nuwen?
HP bullshit is not the answer.

they're equally likely to be scum as i believe they are both scum. therefore the "hp bullshit" is the answer, because i can kill xylthixlm sooner, and that is why i am hurting him.

NO, FUCK.
WHO IS MORE SCUM: XYL OR NUWEN?

[roflcopter]

Same system it was from the start, except that a) mimimum number of people on a wagon is now three and not two and b) we've put together a dedicated squad to kill anyone dealing out what you call random damage.

Why do you have seraphim as town? His is the Shinnen hurt that looks most bus-like.

Gut. Answers to Rolf's accusations. It could change if both are scumbuddies, though.

seraphim's answers to my accusations have been complete bullshit

No. It makes sense from a townie point of view.

it makes sense from an "oh fuck i'm caught oh well /ignore" point of view too

[Xylthixlm]

yeah, if you had 12 hp then you were more than two hits away from dying, even with my double damage hits

The scum are using rage on people you conveniently wear down for them, remember?

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But does she have to be scum from your POV or do you think she still can be town?

when did you stop beating your wife?

she could be town. i don't think its likely. xyl could be town too. but if so, he should probably just go back to irc and stop trying to play forum mafia.

You are not answering the question. WHo has more probs of coming scum: Xyl or Nuwen?
HP bullshit is not the answer.

they're equally likely to be scum as i believe they are both scum. therefore the "hp bullshit" is the answer, because i can kill xylthixlm sooner, and that is why i am hurting him.

NO, FUCK.
WHO IS MORE SCUM: XYL OR NUWEN?

THEY ARE BOTH SCUM. THERE IS NO "MORE" SCUM THERE. GET THE FUCK OFF OF IT, YOU ARE NOT HELPING ANYBODY.

[roflcopter]

yeah, if you had 12 hp then you were more than two hits away from dying, even with my double damage hits

The scum are using rage on people you conveniently wear down for them, remember?

says the guy on the sidelines

[populartajo]

When did you realize that Nuwen was scum?

[DrippingGoofball]

they're equally likely to be scum as i believe they are both scum.

Question: have you looked for evidence that they may be buddies?

[roflcopter]

When did you realize that Nuwen was scum?

when i fucking said so after she killed walt and decided based on the fact that walt was town that both juls and i also had to die.

[roflcopter]

they're equally likely to be scum as i believe they are both scum.

Question: have you looked for evidence that they may be buddies?

my recollection of their interactions so far is that they've largely ignored each other. which is a pretty safe route for scum to take when it comes to their partners. i'm not taking the time to go back through 90 pages of bullshit for more than that until i'm done with xyl.

[populartajo]

walt is pretty obviously town

most likely seraphim scenario is 3-1, if it were 2-2 i can't see nuwen claiming when shinnen-scum was the one who was clearly about to get lynched, as two seraphim in the scumgroup would almost certainly lead scum to conclude that there are at least two seraphim outside the scumgroup.

What do you think of this quote, after walt become obv town?

[populartajo]

most likely seraphim scenario is 3-1, if it were 2-2 i can't see nuwen claiming when shinnen-scum was the one who was clearly about to get lynched, as two seraphim in the scumgroup would almost certainly lead scum to conclude that there are at least two seraphim outside the scumgroup.

I don't follow.

i was the first seraph claim

shortly thereafter, shinnen claims seraph

we now know shinnen is scum. suppose there are two scum seraphs, one of whom is still unclaimed at the point when shinnen and i had claimed, for the sake of argument. the scum know they have two seraphs. the logical conclusion for the scum to make based on this is that there must be at least two town seraphs. so it would not be a good place for a second scum seraph to claim, because it won't make them seem confirmed, as there will be another seraph out there somewhere to claim as well.

this is why i think the timing of nuwen's claim argues strongly for nuwen town.

And this one.

[Xylthixlm]

I'll save someone the trouble of searching through my quotes...

Hey Nuwen, come help me kill Walt.

I'm going to tenatively peg Nuwen as town.

Nuwen: Town. Was worring me because she seemed to be buddying up to me, but apparently just a case of great minds thinking alike.

[roflcopter]

walt is pretty obviously town

most likely seraphim scenario is 3-1, if it were 2-2 i can't see nuwen claiming when shinnen-scum was the one who was clearly about to get lynched, as two seraphim in the scumgroup would almost certainly lead scum to conclude that there are at least two seraphim outside the scumgroup.

What do you think of this quote, after walt become obv town?

what are you even getting at? keep reading my fucking posts before you just go pick something out from days ago and repost it. this is where i reevaluated nuwen:

see, suddenly all my faith in nuwen has evaporated, because she's now setting up lynches based on killing someone and them flipping town

[populartajo]

i missed that detail while i was deciding how likely a 3:1 vs 2:2 was, if i had seen you setting up my lynch ahead of time earlier i would have been a lot more uneasy

Maybe your all case against her is OMGUS?

[populartajo]

When did you realize that Nuwen was scum?

when i fucking said so after she killed walt and decided based on the fact that walt was town that both juls and i also had to die.

So, this is a lie or this post is still too old to bring it back?

[roflcopter]

I'll save someone the trouble of searching through my quotes...

Hey Nuwen, come help me kill Walt.

I'm going to tenatively peg Nuwen as town.

Nuwen: Town. Was worring me because she seemed to be buddying up to me, but apparently just a case of great minds thinking alike.

thanks for bringing the fore your nice, safe, non-interactive relationship with nuwen this game