TM 2023 | Mini Normal | A Neighborhood

[Ausuka]

Um I think so

Well when I thought I was going to die, I was going to scumclaim first so I could see how people (shirou) would react, so he could be doing that and I'm not going to reread the game based on 'Italiano is scum' just yet, but it does seem like it

[DkKoba]

Yeah I mean if you didn;t know what are the chances a scumteam of Italiano Freedom DGB is going to know

if im misreading dgb... this feels likely

[Ausuka]

if you and shirou are both townreading dgb they ?might? be town but i'm going to push them anyway tomorrow if i can and hopefully it'll become more clear if i do that

[Ausuka]

I still don't really think there is much reason to townread them, but I guess I was feeling that way like early on

The read flipped over time because they weren't doing anything towny and I think their vote on my wagon was like the worst, worse than shirou's and even italiano's

I also think the point about them like, viewing v confident reads as a scum-thing is pretty bad when they similarly gave an easy townread to shirou

[Ausuka]

I do not get it but ok lmao

[xofelf]

Whelp. I chose a bad day to sleep through most of it. I was worried that's how he would flip.

Do any of you have any experience with Freedom? I've never seen them around and hoping they're an improvement over Arko.

[DeasVail]

Uhhh I’m going to go back to sleep and think about this later

But no I don’t have experience with freedom unfortunately

[DeasVail]

Yeah I definitely will be wanting more from Freedom and DGB.

I did have the thought that Ydrasse's progression on Italiano feels quite real in hindsight. The initial reluctance being because of neighbourhood stuff would make sense, and the growing suspicion on Italiano towards the end of the day seems to me like something she believed in.

[Ausuka]

Freedom is uh similar to arko I think

I want to vote dgb tomorrow I think, she doesn't have many posts and the ones she does have seem bad

I might just get vigged here but i'm not sure there's anything i want to say i haven't already said

[xofelf]

Thanks Ausuka. Guess I'll just have to watch and see if he's any kind of improvement over Arko. Gonna try and look over some things during the Night and hopefully day start is nice to us.

[DkKoba]

Ausuka can u link some recent games + please involve datisi or MT in this game

[Ausuka]

the last thing datisi told me about the game was that you were scum lmao (he did back off from it after i told him you were sick) and has mostly been emotional support. well he started the game by saying Mala and mastina is scum theater but neither of them have posted much for a week. and MT hasn't commented at all since she replaced in and i don't really want to force her to. if you scumread me for that, whatever

viewtopic.php?t=89922, viewtopic.php?t=89811, viewtopic.php?t=89756 town

viewtopic.php?t=90580, viewtopic.php?t=89870 scum

[DkKoba]

I don't care about datisis read on me, I would rather his overall take on the game

[Ausuka]

I pinged datisi and he says that he's not reading the whole game and you can ask if you want something specific

[DkKoba]

zzzzz

[Ausuka]

[DkKoba]

ausuka I will be upfront.
I dropped you to PoE. HOWEVER
I also have shirou in poe pending a meta dive (which I've not had time since I haven't focused on this game too much)
And a potential difference check to you.

I think xof starts to be town bc they kinda don't feel like they fit on any team

Kowah is in PoE now because I have a skill issue and know I can't let myself get pocketed by people who are tunnelers. (It's my biggest weakness by far.) Their logic sucks and they've been very thumb twiddly to me.

Dgb is town. I'm sticking to it. I reread their posts and it feels like the town dgb I played against before and it definitely didn't go and magically improve its play.


I heavily doubt both hoods are clear? (Possible as heavy mod wifom considering these useless FVs, but also you gotta fit real PRs somewhere - however in that case rolecop works for scum)

Ah fuck it trying to guess what nonsense a normal game has is pointless


Regardless - let's just go with the safe assumption of 1-2 scum in at least 2 hoods.
dgb>mastina>ydrasse (mastina kinda got weak reasons fwiw, mostly vibes from playing with her in a few games + accounting for her IRL)

This hood:
Xof>DV>Ausuka

And 4/5 of Last hood
We know 2, shirou and Mala
aisa>mala>kowah>shirou>freedom and then u got a clear VT

[DkKoba]

I'm vla for the next week BTW

[DkKoba]

I don't have any viable team structures with the above which is why I need to dive meta when I have time

[xofelf]

Appreciate the thoughts.

[DeasVail]

I think it would be very difficult for the stars to align for Shirou to be scum here

[xofelf]

I think I want Shirou to be scum much more than he actually is scum.

I appreciate your thoughts before your V/LA koba.

[DeasVail]

If he’s scum he’d have to have either:

- Genuinely missed Ausuka outing our all-town neighbourhood or;
- Known that our neighbourhood was outed but now is specifically pretending to not know this??

I guess now that I’ve written it out the second option doesn’t seem impossible (particularly given that we talked about people not seeming to notice it here) but idk it feels like it’s entering conspiracy theory territory

[xofelf]

No I agree. Like it doesn't make sense for either option. I just maybe sorta absolutely wish he had less posts.

I do think most people missed the complete hood yesterday, but he's definitely noticed it today.

But also uh, realtalk, I didn't know that a Normal game is required to have a VT so his current point is one that never occurred to me.

[DkKoba]

No I agree. Like it doesn't make sense for either option. I just maybe sorta absolutely wish he had less posts.

I do think most people missed the complete hood yesterday, but he's definitely noticed it today.

But also uh, realtalk, I didn't know that a Normal game is required to have a VT so his current point is one that never occurred to me.

i thought i brought up that as part of the likely setup design earlier lol