Brightest Day Mafia, Part 1 - GAME OVER

[Oversoul]

What the hell? The only thing that my PM state about Mera is that we should join together to fight a new evil. It does mention that I can talk to dead fish and that haunts me, but I promise you I am not the CR. I was sure WLC was antitown. And this flip totally changes my mind on a lot of people

Tans

.

Subliminal, how does this equate into our deal?

[Oversoul]

I want Tans to claim his complete powers and its effect immediately. Why didn't Andrius act vanillalized when he got Tansblocked? :\

Tans, you are no longer confirmed town in my eyes.

[zMuffinMan]

I should have made a deal.

[zMuffinMan]

Pick one:

- CJ
- Subliminal
- ToastyToast

VOTE: CandleJack

[tanstalas]

I want Tans to claim his complete powers and its effect immediately. Why didn't Andrius act vanillalized when he got Tansblocked? :\

Tans, you are no longer confirmed town in my eyes.

I already claimed my power, and others explained it again. Please stop acting stupid.

WLC flipping town is very surprising.

Looking at VC's I thought Hiplop was mafia, but the fact he didn't vote for WLC to let me hammer is making me second guess myself now.

Anyhow, like I said, I'd be willing to do a CJ lynch

VOTE: Candle Jack

[tanstalas]

What the hell? The only thing that my PM state about Mera is that we should join together to fight a new evil. It does mention that I can talk to dead fish and that haunts me, but I promise you I am not the CR. I was sure WLC was antitown. And this flip totally changes my mind on a lot of people

Tans

.

Subliminal, how does this equate into our deal?

Also, the fact that YOU YOURSELF thought that WLC was anti-town but yet now you think I'm NOT town for voting WLC is lolwut?

[Mr Subliminal]

Candlejack should be claiming everything now.

[Candle Jack]

Ok.

So, we protected Andrius Night one because he was our biggest town read.
On night two, we protected nopoint for several reasons. One was that Friend was exceedingly adamant about him being town, we suspected some sort of role information to be at hand (and it was, as they were masons, though nopoint was recruited night one by then.) {maybe outside chance of a night zero recruit}. Plus, I also had a pretty good ( I thought) read on him being town so I convinced Tar to protect there.

Anyways, at the end of the night last night, our role shifted (for reasons still unknown) from Doctor to Rolecop, in the orange lantern corps.

To that effect, I've been asking Tar to get his and expand on his third point, as he had some convoluted idea behind it, but seeing as he's been missing in action and mafia is not top priority right now, I'm going to wait on it.

It is, though, highly likely someone is totally lying/misclaiming what abilities they posses here, as there appear to be way too many roleblocks and I'll sort through myself to try and figure out what, if anything, that means.

Also, going to reread to try and hit the cult recruiter. To that effect nopoints day two, (and possibly day one) will be of import.

[Nikanor]

Vote: ToastyToast.

I still don't understand why people think that CJ is cult.
Don't try to reiterate cuz I won't read it.

[Andrius]

Yeah I'm not going to join Subliminals witch-hunt looking for CRs in the wrong places.
The setup needs a doctor.
And there's been no CC.
Unless ofc Toast goes full-Doc and ignores the RB part but.

I think we should get back to lynching logically, not some crazy tinfoil "WELL HE MIGHT HAVE CULTED HIM WHO MIGHT HAVE HAD TIME TO COORDINATE"
OBTW, REMEMBER CULTS GROW.
If Toast dies and flips black then I'll bend over backwards and lynch oversoul and kiss BB's feet.

But I don't think its that complex.

Vote: BB

inHim replacing out is MEHHHHH but :/

[Andrius]

from Doctor to Rolecop, in the orange lantern corps.

[Blackberry]

CANDLE JACK

IS OBVIOUSLY TOWN. THERE IS OBVIOUSLY GOING TO BE A DOCTOR IN THIS GAME.

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TOASTYTOAST IS THE CORRECT LYNCH. OS IS THE CULT RECRUIT, TOASTY IS THE RECRUITER.

Who would give CJ a ring?
* A town-sided role
What town-sided role wouldn't come forward?
* A cult-recruited person (OS) who must now fake being roleblocked and can't confess he gave the ring

Vote: ToastyToast

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Everyone Else:

Not CR

Candle Jack - their claimed role is definetely in this game
Blackberry- their claimed role is definetely in this game
Kast - saw Tans target Andy, confirmed non-CR
Andrius - has powers stolen N1, confirmed non-CR
hiplop - confirmed white lantern, non-CR
zMuffinMan - confirmed white lantern
tanstalas - confirmed non-CR, because he
vezokpiraka - confirmed delayer because of OS (most likely mafia for delaying a tracker)

Leaning No

Nikanor - 'jailkept' Night 1, unless CR can't be roleblocked (hmmm) OR nopoint was somehow recruited Night 2 [I will admit my gut actually says Nikanor is a good lynch, but he is voting Toasty right now so I'm really happy with Nikanor...]
inHimshallibe - claimed 'Red Miller'

???

Oversoul - delayed N1, jailkept N2... (UNLESS, nopoint was N1 target and it got delayed till N2 and still works... this actually seems possible... lots of people told me the action still goes through because it's a N1 action that was delayed, the N1 action does not therefore become a N2 action)
Mr. Subliminal - Ughh, doesn't act CR? - I have a complete and random guess about what his role is, but completely a random guess (lol)
ToastyToast - claims to have jailkept OS last night

LIE

... OS gave a ring to CJ

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Everyone except for Cult

(i.e., Mafia/SK?), if you are smart enough to keep my alive tonight, I can and will use my powers to DETECT CULT RECRUITER. By tomorrow I will either confirm one of the bottom five as non-CR or condemn them as CR.

[Andrius]

Andrius - has powers stolen N1, confirmed non-CR

No, I still have mine. >_>

I mean Subliminal isn't cleared of being CR- he was just blocked last night.

[Blackberry]

Andrius, I'm 2 seconds from claiming just to get your vote off of me (also I think it's obvious what I am if you READ, specifically, Kast's posts).

Let's get our shit together

Also, I really think we should get organized with everything. I'm really disappointed that just because we have two lynches in a day, everyone seemed content with not discussing (both Candle Jack and Nikanor appeared to be lurking, as they both suddenly appear after the lynch has been sent in... I am not accusing people of being anti-town because of this, as I think the MAJORITY of people are doing it and I feel people think 'oh we have two lynches, it's ok, we can slack off and get this done with').

I think we all need to put our thinking caps on and work together. There's 13 of us. There's no reason that onlt 4-5 of us should be doing most of the posting.

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Commander Muffin

Muffin, I think you're smart and have been asking the right questions. I want to assign you to help sort out all the white lantern-claimed people and confirm they all got the same PM as you did. Also, we need things clarified, such as if it's true WL's can't be Cult Recruiter (Mr. S posted this, but then backed-down from his claim, etc.)

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Andrius, do you want me to claim? I already have most of it written out.

[Andrius]

I laugh at the mods who think that double-lynches will solve the games' problems.

I DONT FUCKING KNOW.
I DONT KNOW.
OK?

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What do you think Subliminal's chances of being CR are?

Because I don't like the Toasty odds and CJ's town and you're on the chopping block out of POE.

[vezokpiraka]

BB claim please.

After that shitty flip I think that will do good.

[Blackberry]

I laugh at the mods who think that double-lynches will solve the games' problems.

I DONT FUCKING KNOW.
I DONT KNOW.
OK?

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What do you think Subliminal's chances of being CR are?

Because I don't like the Toasty odds and CJ's town and you're on the chopping block out of POE.

If you do not take your vote off me, I'm claiming. For the same reason you are not voting CJ, once I claim, you will not be voting me.

I agree with you that CJ is town 100% (unless recruited, but still, town 100%).

I posted my list with 5 people who it *could* be.

I am fine with posting my excel sheet too after I claim.

Mr. S - doubt he is CR. However, this is why I want all the White-Lantern claims sorted out and what not so we can confirm who is telling the truth. hiplop & Muffin are 100% confirmed from what I've seen. I don't know about the other claims.

I'm also fine with a Mass Claim. And since me and CJ have claimed, there's really no reason for us NOT to have a mass claim. Not to mention, I still want to know who was bus-driven/redirected if I was...

[Andrius]

SHIT ITS JUST ONE VOTE DOES IT MATTER THAT MUCH?

[Blackberry]

After dropping hints upon hints, Kast has practically called it out.

I'm going to claim, because I think I can convince Mafia/SK not to kill me tonight by working with them to find CR.

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I am

Soranik Natu

.

Green Lantern

. (I have posted in green text twice now).

Mafia Cop

. (I stated that Doctor was the ONLY role that I didn't want to claim and that it was the only role that I saw as confirmed-non-CR when earlier I had stated Doctor AND Mafia Cop are the two roles that will be confirmed 'in this settup').

Spoiler: Very First Posts

My two very first posts in the game I question Nikanor about his investigation ability. Because, knowing my ability, my first instinct is that if there is any other direct-investigative roles out there, it is going to be a Cult Cop. His investigation sounded odd to me. This is also why I questioned inHim about his miller-status early on. Which I will get to in a second.

Spoiler: Night 1 Logic

In fact, Night 1 I had to choose a target without reading the game. My method was to select a person at random, and skim their posts to see if anything struck me as odd. I forget who I skimmed first, but they said something that sounded convincing that both Toogeloo and Frozen had a high chance of being mafia. So I went to Toogeloo and saw him claim of JOAT and 'Cop' which immiediately struck me. I was about to send in my investigation for him when I double-checked to see he was dead. I then read Frozen, who seemed to have not-a-lot of posts and flying low so I sent in my investigation for him.

Spoiler: Freaking out about not having a ring

After realizing I didn't have a ring (didn't realize season 1 had 'items' until today), I read my character and read something about her swallowing her ring so I assumed maybe I can't lose my power because my ring is inside me and thus can't be stolen (lol).

Spoiler: MAFIA/SK READ THIS, My Deal for Tonight

I will use my role tonight on inHimshallibe. Mafia, this will either confirm him as miller, or condemn him as CR if he is lying about being a miller. I also want to add, my role says absolutely NOTHING about color of the person I'm targetting. So inHim's flavor about being red struck me as odd. Killing me TONIGHT will be bad FOR YOU. Because chances are inHim is a miller and people won't lynch him. If he is CR he will come up as non-mafia and we can all lynch him. Killing me, we will just assume inHim is in fact a miller or maybe mafia, but they'll be no reason to suspect him as CR. Plus, if he is mafia (OR MILLER) he will come back guilty and we will have no reason to lynch him so you don't have to worry if he is in-fact mafia.

Spoiler: Bus Driver

When Muffin claimed yet another role that 'could roleblock'. This triggered an idea of bus driver and I rechecked my Cop Results because I remembered Night 2 being slightly different than Night 1 but I wasn't sure. After reading my PMs, my first guess was 'maybe me and Mr. S were bus driven, and my target was whoever Mr. S submitted'. However, after asking the moderator some questions,

the bus driver doesn't work like this, it only switches who targets those two bus driven

. Which made me think 'oh, I'm not bus-driven, Muffin was bus-driven.'

Night 1 my result (paraphrasing) said 'Frozen is not mafia'... Night 2 my result wording changed to 'Your Target is not mafia'... Which made me think I was bus-driven because the mod specifically changed my result wording (there's slightly more to it but it's getting too close to mod-quoteing)

Spoiler: Night 2 Target, @Kast, 'Why it was obvious I wasn't CR'

My Night 2 target was Muffin. I have bluntly wrote this in one of my posts (Muffin=Town). Also about the CR-thing with Kast. I specifically quoted Muffin's PM where he listed me as his top 3 suspects for CR. That is why I stated 'it's obvious I'm not CR and it's obvious as to why' (because my target was suggesting I was CR). This is also why I stated 'my logic then no longer applies' (because since then Muffin has backed-off me after I challenged you that I wasn't CR...).

And yes, Andrius, it does matter. Because half the people here are just placing a vote for the time being (such as on WLC) and then ignoring the thread/lurking and not reading anything and not having any time to rethink their vote (barely anyone responded to my Toasty/OS theory which tells me no one gives a damn about this game).

We need to get organized. We need to think outside the box. We need to find the mistakes and figure out who is what and who can be confirmed non-CR, etc. No more slacking. Let's play the game people. Also, I'm 100% down for a mass-claim because we've already done all the damage we can do.

[Andrius]

I AM HERE.
YOU JUST WIGGED OUT OVER ONE VOTE.

Unvote

BB is town.

I AM DOWN FOR LE MASSCLAIM.
FROM DAY FUCKING ONE.
BECAUSE THIS GAME IS BREAKABLE AND WE CAN DO IT.

[Mr Subliminal]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT BLACKBERRY

You're a Cop and you copped THE CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN?

[Mr Subliminal]

ALSO

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO COP IHSIB. GODFUCKINGDAMMIT, HE CLAIMED MILLER, EITHER HE'S A MILLER OR HE'S MAFIA. GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE.

[Andrius]

I think we should make an order to it though.
Like:
POSSIBLE CRS
Then all the Non-CRs as follows:
Others
OLC
WLC


Ehhh Subliminal they're not masons they COULD be mafia, you said they're not CR in the Entity gambit but can be mafia.
SO YEAH.

[Andrius]

ALSO

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO COP IHSIB. GODFUCKINGDAMMIT, HE CLAIMED MILLER, EITHER HE'S A MILLER OR HE'S MAFIA. GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE.

I agree with this if Inhim was Black Recruiter he would have claimed BLACK miller.

[Blackberry]

I AM HERE.
YOU JUST WIGGED OUT OVER ONE VOTE.

Unvote

BB is town.

I AM DOWN FOR LE MASSCLAIM.
FROM DAY FUCKING ONE.
BECAUSE THIS GAME IS BREAKABLE AND WE CAN DO IT.

I may be on drugs.

Not a joke.

Not illegal drugs though. Hehe.

I think I'm also frustrated with the fact nobody is playing the game. F#ck me if I haven't read the first 50 posts, but f#ck everyone else who isn't reading today and who isn't contributing.

Also. After actually reading the WL stuff, I do think it was a mistake, but at the time after he kept asking to vig me I thought him highly suspect. Also, when I DID read, I saw WL is confirmed NON-CR, but at least one person said he is NOT confirmed NON-CR. So not such a terrible choice (I also considered selecting Kast so as to prove that I'm not CR, but in my head I thought 'Muffin will come up mafia, Kast will track me, then I can say 'I can prove I'm not CR by lynching my target last night'... but things didn't go as planned... lol).

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Do we want to get the White Lanterns sorted out first? Those that claimed WL and are 100% WL, and those that claimed WL but aren't really confirmed yet?

Confirmed, 100%:
hiplop
Muffin

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Mr. S, what can you offer us?

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Also, I don't think Cult knew that it was a Cult Cop/Mafia Cop. Maybe Cult was told 'there is a cop.' So inHim decided to claim miller, as he did not know the specifics, so he thought the best way to avoid GETTING INVESTIGATED was to CLAIM MILLER.

I am using my powers on inHim tonight to confirm him non-CR. Plus, this will keep a truce with Mafia and give them an incentive to not kill me. At this point I don't really care about finding mafia since we've killed 3. I just want to find the CR. If I can confirm 100% that inHim is non-CR, then that is what I'm going to do tonight.