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Post Post #2150 (ISO) » Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:46 am

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if u hammer me, you've made the biggest f**k up ever on MS. I dont mind on principle, but when Xtoxm is so obviously scum? Its ridiculous we are even discussing it.

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Post Post #2151 (ISO) » Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:30 am

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Farside, sometimes NL is the best play here - But we have got to the point where it's either me or BM. That won't change overnight, we'll just be down a townie. And BM is scum.
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Post Post #2152 (ISO) » Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:57 am

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Ok, no one is gonna make this decision for me, and I feel I need more information.

There is only one way I can get it, so...

Vote: No Lynch


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Post Post #2153 (ISO) » Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:00 am

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Great. Now we'll get the same mindgame tomorrow.
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Post Post #2154 (ISO) » Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:23 am

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but 1 of us will be dead.
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Post Post #2155 (ISO) » Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:10 pm

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You guys should totally no kill.
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Post Post #2156 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:00 am

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'k. You no-lynch. It's night.

Scum, give me a kill before Friday.

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FINAL VOTE COUNT: DAY 8


Voting:6

BM: 3 (Xtoxm, ThAdmiral, WeyounsLastClone)
No Lynch: 3 (farside22, Battle Mage, Samruc)

RESULT: NO LYNCH
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Post Post #2157 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:59 am

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And not too long later, day rises, the bad guys having decided to "no kill".

Just kidding; that isn't an option this game anyway. They kill TheAdmiral (townie).

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ZEROTH VOTE COUNT: DAY 9


Voting: Nobody

Not voting 5: (Battle Mage, farside22, Samruc, WeyounsLastClone, Xtoxm)
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Post Post #2158 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:33 pm

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Sigh...

Farside, I think you are the townie.

BM and Samruc scum.

Could you not see that?

Samruc thought he had to bus BM until you say you want me lycnhed, so they NL, kill an obv townie, and use you to get me lynched.
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Post Post #2159 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:33 pm

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vote BM
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Post Post #2160 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:32 pm

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WLC and I now know for certain that he is scum, because if he was town it would mean the only possible scum pair is me and WLC.
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Post Post #2161 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:05 pm

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Xtoxm wrote:Sigh...

Farside, I think you are the townie.

BM and Samruc scum.

Could you not see that?

Samruc thought he had to bus BM until you say you want me lycnhed, so they NL, kill an obv townie, and use you to get me lynched.
wow. I actually think you should try writing children's stories as a profession. Sadly, im not quite seeing how it pertains to the game. No Lynch was a good move, as it eliminated my 2nd top suspect, and a general idiot. Xtoxm is still clearly scum. But i'm actually clueless as to his buddy. WLC seems a little too obvious, and i expect theyd be distancing alot more if they were buddies. Farside isnt giving off scummy vibes, but the fact she is attacking Xtoxm could be an attempt at the long-game. Samruc is now under fire FROM Xtoxm, which perhaps is even more consistent with this.

But either way, today's lynch is pretty clear.

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Post Post #2162 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:06 pm

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Xtoxm wrote:WLC and I now know for certain that he is scum, because if he was town it would mean the only possible scum pair is me and WLC.
what in the hell are you talking about? 0.o

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Post Post #2163 (ISO) » Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:35 am

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Yesterday 3 people were voting for BM, and 3 were voting No Lynch.

The 3 voting for BM were Xtoxm, ThAdmiral, and I. We now know that ThAdmiral is town.

If BM were town, that could only mean Xtoxm and I are scum. If only one of me and Xtoxm was scum, then there'd be another scum within farside and Samruc, and could've hammered BM thus winning the game.
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Post Post #2164 (ISO) » Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:39 am

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ah i see. Yeah thats a pretty valid point. Of course as Samruc was strongly considering the hammer, i wouldnt rule him out just yet...

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Post Post #2165 (ISO) » Wed Apr 16, 2008 3:35 am

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Fact is, Xtoxm and I know you're scum. It's up to Samruc and farside to decide if they think you're scum, or if Xtoxm and I are scum together.

I'm still trying to figure out if I can rule Xtoxm out as scum, but I think I can't be sure about Xtoxm's alignment yet. He could be scum bussing BM.

Not voting yet, because I'd like to see what others think of the current state of affairs.
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Post Post #2166 (ISO) » Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:09 am

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You don't seriuosly think that i'm his partner trying to bus him do you?
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Post Post #2167 (ISO) » Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:54 am

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Xtoxm wrote:You don't seriuosly think that i'm his partner trying to bus him do you?
It's not the most likely option for me now, but I can't dismiss it completely. I mean, wouldn't it be an interesting play by the both of you if it was?
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Post Post #2168 (ISO) » Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:55 am

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Yeh I guess...
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Post Post #2169 (ISO) » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:19 am

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WeyounsLastClone wrote:Fact is, Xtoxm and I know you're scum. It's up to Samruc and farside to decide if they think you're scum, or if Xtoxm and I are scum together.

I'm still trying to figure out if I can rule Xtoxm out as scum, but I think I can't be sure about Xtoxm's alignment yet. He could be scum bussing BM.

Not voting yet, because I'd like to see what others think of the current state of affairs.
This is a really valid point. Samruc could have been making it look like he was busting his partner but since I made my comment decided to look more town by NL. I would like to hear what he says before I place my vote.
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Post Post #2170 (ISO) » Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:52 am

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Not "look more town" at that point NL was anti-town. He was saving his scum buddy.
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Post Post #2171 (ISO) » Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:28 pm

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Xtoxm wrote:Not "look more town" at that point NL was anti-town. He was saving his scum buddy.
I did say if he was town he would No Lynch.
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Post Post #2172 (ISO) » Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:36 pm

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No lynch was bad play, he was ready to bus BM, and then you gave him a cop out and and said you wanted to NL with them and lynch me.
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Post Post #2173 (ISO) » Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:49 am

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Xtoxm wrote:No lynch was bad play, he was ready to bus BM, and then you gave him a cop out and and said you wanted to NL with them and lynch me.
That is my thinking at this point, but I really want to hear from Samruc just to see what he has to say in the matter.
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Post Post #2174 (ISO) » Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:48 am

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I don't really think no lynch was bad. If we didn't yesterday, we would have done it today anyway. This way we've got more information, while scum had *less* information before making their extra kill.

I'll try not to speculate too much, but the NK of ThAdmiral is not really that unexpected to me. Anyway, it's nice to have one suspect less, as it makes today a bit easier. I think the scum are now probably within {BM, WLC, Xtoxm}. If farside is scum, she'd have to be it with BM, but I think her defending him yesterday was a bit too obvious for that.

Xtoxm has invested a lot in trying to get BM lynched, enough to make me think they aren't a probable pair either. That leaves (from my point of view) WLC as BM's possible partner. I still think this is a probable option based on yesterday's play. The only other option is WLC and Xtoxm, which I also could see as a plausible pair.

Based on this, (WLC being in both pairs), I think WLC is the best bet for today. I'm aware though, that this analysis rests on me being town. You don't know that, at least not the people I'm trying to convince...

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