Judge, Jury, and Executioner - Over

Knight of Cydonia · Post Post #2125 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:11 am

In post 2125, BloodCovenent wrote:
In post 2124, Knight of Cydonia wrote:
In post 2116, BloodCovenent wrote:god damn... i knew it was fucking fishy when KoC claimed N1 Executioner. Why did you do that exactly?

In post 2114, guille2015 wrote:Ah, man, I knew KoC was scum the moment he said his power. I Didn't think that the game will be endgamed when mafia and town had the same quantities, mostly because of the 3 votes per person mechanic. Very well.
KoC was the MVP.

I could have seen it as a gambit for sure too.

Remember when vijay referred to my claim as "A massive fucking gambit"?
Yeah.

pretty sure i called it as a gambit in my catch up, and i gave you scum points. If we had lynched you, we might have actually won...

You'd still have had to pick out Axel (who I fed the Investigative Journalist claim that went down so well) and bearing in mind any scum you DID find we could easily keep on life support for the numbers like we did with Coug. And considering you called it, you were awfully swift to completely change your mind on me.

Axelrod · Post Post #2126 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:13 am

In post 2122, BloodCovenent wrote:
In post 2122, Axelrod wrote:Well, this was fun for the most part. I darsay we did have the advantage, but even so, I think it was well played.

I would say KoC's not 1 but 2 gambit claims make him my MVP, though I think the least suspected scum teammate overall might have been DCLXVI.

you're team was probably the least active aside from KoC, so we didn't focus on the lurker scum, which for the most part of the past few days were you DCL and Bastion. I forgot he was in this game through most of day 3.

Sometimes that's the best way to do it, sadly. I don't really "plan" to be a lurker, but with all the multi-votes it made it a lot easier. Plus, I really did have some real life busy stuff going on.

BloodCovenent · Post Post #2127 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:14 am

[quote="In post 2125, Knight of Cydonia"
You'd still have had to pick out Axel (who I fed the Investigative Journalist claim that went down so well) and bearing in mind any scum you DID find we could easily keep on life support for the numbers like we did with Coug. And considering you called it, you were awfully swift to completely change your mind on me.[/quote]
Yeah, true. In hindsight, i can easily see DCL and Axel as scum, they contributed very little, and just voted. i dunno... i'm just frustrated i guess. I kinda feel the game was imbalanced too. what where all the scum PR's?

AurorusVox · Post Post #2128 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:15 am

Maybe I'm bias but I do think it was scum sided. We could only lynch scum properly if we lynched 2x scum in one day, and that's fucken hard with no scumflips to start the fire going...

I also didn't realise we were lylo, or I'd have gotten on KoC the next day. Have no idea why I saw him as town >_>
Nom'd DCL for MvP as I never voted him.
SBast was close on getting lynched as well as SC -- shoulda held on. I tunnelvisioned Nocmen to my detriment.

I knew Axel was scum. I just couldn't get him lynched

BloodCovenent · Post Post #2129 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:16 am

In post 2108, IceGuy wrote:

My Mistake

There should have been an extra town power role. Unfortunately, I forgot to write a role PM for it and so didn't send it out, and when I noticed it was too late. The role would've been the Courtroom Reporter and know which defendant was sent to the Judge, to the Jury, and to the Executioner. This might have tipped the game in scum's favor. My bad.

so wait, you forgot a Town PR, that could have helped scum win

Axelrod · Post Post #2130 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:18 am

In post 2125, Knight of Cydonia wrote:You'd still have had to pick out Axel (who I fed the Investigative Journalist claim that went down so well) and bearing in mind any scum you DID find we could easily keep on life support for the numbers like we did with Coug. And considering you called it, you were awfully swift to completely change your mind on me.

Hey, that was totally my own claim

You did come up with the name though, which was nice.

IceGuy · Post Post #2131 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:19 am

I will have some more detailed mod thoughts in the post that currently says "(reserved)", but here are the cliff notes:
- Yes, the game was slightly imbalanced in favor of scum, partly because I forgot a town PR.
- The town's PRs played very badly. Gooner could've blasted KoC's gambit to pieces, and I don't think I need to comment on TheShadow.
- Having that much scum and scum that powerful was a necessity, since they can't kill strong town players or town PRs.
- If this game would've been perfectly balanced, I think scum would've won too, just not perfectly.

Knight of Cydonia · Post Post #2132 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:20 am

In post 2130, Axelrod wrote:
In post 2125, Knight of Cydonia wrote:You'd still have had to pick out Axel (who I fed the Investigative Journalist claim that went down so well) and bearing in mind any scum you DID find we could easily keep on life support for the numbers like we did with Coug. And considering you called it, you were awfully swift to completely change your mind on me.

Hey, that was totally my own claim

You did come up with the name though, which was nice.

So nice that it was almost identical to the name IceGuy came up with for the missing PR.
I don't claim to be the best Mafia player, but I know my flavour.

BloodCovenent · Post Post #2133 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:21 am

In post 2131, IceGuy wrote:I will have some more detailed mod thoughts in the post that currently says "(reserved)", but here are the cliff notes:
- Yes, the game was slightly imbalanced in favor of scum, partly because I forgot a town PR.
- The town's PRs played very badly. Gooner could've blasted KoC's gambit to pieces, and I don't think I need to comment on TheShadow.
- Having that much scum and scum that powerful was a necessity,
since they can't kill strong town players
or town PRs.
- If this game would've been perfectly balanced, I think scum would've won too, just not perfectly.

The problem was, that all our town players where not

strong

town players.

IceGuy · Post Post #2134 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:22 am

And those that were got lynched in a fit of collective derp.

Knight of Cydonia · Post Post #2135 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:23 am

Or got themselves modkilled by going fullretard.

BloodCovenent · Post Post #2136 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:24 am

In post 2135, Knight of Cydonia wrote:Or got themselves modkilled by going fullretard.

that was so fucking dumb man. as i was reading up on that... i had no words.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #2137 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:26 am

Ehh, Bastion and SC deserved rope. And DCL hardcore lurked towards the end <_<

KoC def deserves MVP though.

BloodCovenent · Post Post #2138 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:27 am

In post 2137, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:

Ehh, Bastion and SC deserved rope. And DCL hardcore lurked towards the end <_<

KoC def deserves MVP though.

were you in this game o.o

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #2139 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:31 am

In post 2138, BloodCovenent wrote:were you in this game o.o

Ser Panda was a hydra of me and RedPanda <_< (C'mon, I was with you on the jury one time :p)

Well, in theory. In practice, I kind of slipped up on the game and fell behind, so Panda was doing by far most of the work.

Nocmen · Post Post #2140 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:32 am

Well, I know I played like piss this entire game. Pretty much knew SC was scum, but the other 4 I wouldn't have came anywhere close to lynching.

RedPanda · Post Post #2141 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:32 am

Koc

This was what I typed immediately after night 4 jury phase

KOC is scum, or really fucking paranoid.

scum is more simpler.

He thinks the blood investigation will result in a guilty even though I told him it wouldn't.

Either he's scum or hes just fucking paranoid.

Scum is what is probably.

this game was terrible for town.

It was so fucking hard to get these townies together to lynch scum.

Axelrod · Post Post #2142 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:33 am

IceGuy in the spoilered dead quicktopic wrote:Interestingly enough, the Mafia thinks they'll just steamroll the town.

Knight of Cydonia · Post Post #2143 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:34 am

I know full well that SAD cannot read me at all. Shame you couldn't get it into his head, Panda.

guille2015 · Post Post #2144 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:35 am

You needed 4 votes to get me Lynched Scum! Bwahaha.

But yeah, I still think Ser Panda's argument for me was weak. Still. I think he had some mafia found though.

As, for the balance. Well, the Judgekill is what I think is the most imbalanced Power. As the days get closer to the end, they'd have more kills because they could guess who the judge is faster.

IceGuy · Post Post #2145 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:36 am

In post 2144, guille2015 wrote:
As, for the balance. Well, the Judgekill is what I think is the most imbalanced Power. As the days get closer to the end, they'd have more kills because they could guess who the judge is faster.

Without the judgekill, the judge could've just claimed and be confirmed town.

RedPanda · Post Post #2146 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:36 am

Axelrod is one person I completely misread this game. He was a solid town read, and I would have stuck with that fullgame.

guille2015 · Post Post #2147 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:38 am

Scum would have won this, even if we caught SC, KoC and Sir Bastion.

BloodCovenent · Post Post #2148 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:39 am

Bastion tried real hard to discredit me. i wish i had votes to vote him at the time

RedPanda · Post Post #2149 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:43 am

In post 2144, guille2015 wrote:But yeah, I still think Ser Panda's argument for me was weak. Still. I think he had some mafia found though.

Actually I was a little mad at the whole bloodcovenant getting a guilty on me thing.

Here I was someone who lynched strangercoug, and then suddenly there's this whole wagon on me and I'm at L-2. and axelrod refused to place a vote there, thats probably why I would never have lynched him this game and then you disappear and It really looked like you parked your vote there hoping some idiot would hammer me.

Lynches that never should have happened were Thor, nerocain shadow greyice and quilford. everyone else I could live with.

and yeah Sorry thor. My bad.