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Post Post #2125 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:42 am

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In post 2123, Katsuki wrote:
In post 2121, SensFan wrote:
In post 2120, Katsuki wrote:
In post 2117, SensFan wrote:
In post 2115, tanstalas wrote:If yes, I totally blame Kats for us losing, then Sens, then the sweet, innocent little Mina :P

As I vented in the Dead QT, I put most of the blame on Katsmina for spending more time trying to troll Fate and I in the Neighbour QT than they did paying attention to the goddamn game.


YOU
FUCKING IGNORED MY POSTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD
AND SELF-HAMMERED YOURSELF

YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP
USELESS SACK OF "WOE IS ME'

TEN PEOPLE ALIVE. FIVE WANT ME LYNCHED. FIVE WANT IC LYNCHED.
ASSUME WE NO LYNCH.
IT'S FIVE TO LYNCH THE NEXT DAY.
TAKE A WILD FUCKING GUESS WHICH SIDE THE NIGHTKILL WILL COME FROM.



YOU HAD 4 FUCKING HRS BEFORE DEADLINE
OTHERS WERE ON
YOU DONT FUCKING SELF-HAMMER WITH THAT MUCH TIME REMAINING
ESPECIALLY WHEN OTHERS ARE ON TO ENSURE THAT WE DIDNT NO-LYNCH

Did you miss the whole "In 5 hours, I will be losing access for a week" thing 5 hours before the hammer?
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(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
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Post Post #2126 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:42 am

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In post 2114, tanstalas wrote:Though. TBF, I had my vote on IC like all D7. You could have placed the vote Kats.

Dram would you have hammered IC?

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Post Post #2127 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:43 am

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Also THIS IS EXACTLY WHY YOU NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVEN THINK OF VOTING FOR SOMEONE OTHER THAN NL IN MYLO. NEVER. NO, NOT EVEN THEN.
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Post Post #2128 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:45 am

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You have no idea how much I've wanted to use this game as an example for... at least a month now.
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Post Post #2129 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:46 am

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In post 2125, SensFan wrote:
In post 2123, Katsuki wrote:
In post 2121, SensFan wrote:
In post 2120, Katsuki wrote:
In post 2117, SensFan wrote:As I vented in the Dead QT, I put most of the blame on Katsmina for spending more time trying to troll Fate and I in the Neighbour QT than they did paying attention to the goddamn game.


YOU
FUCKING IGNORED MY POSTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD
AND SELF-HAMMERED YOURSELF

YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP
USELESS SACK OF "WOE IS ME'

TEN PEOPLE ALIVE. FIVE WANT ME LYNCHED. FIVE WANT IC LYNCHED.
ASSUME WE NO LYNCH.
IT'S FIVE TO LYNCH THE NEXT DAY.
TAKE A WILD FUCKING GUESS WHICH SIDE THE NIGHTKILL WILL COME FROM.



YOU HAD 4 FUCKING HRS BEFORE DEADLINE
OTHERS WERE ON
YOU DONT FUCKING SELF-HAMMER WITH THAT MUCH TIME REMAINING
ESPECIALLY WHEN OTHERS ARE ON TO ENSURE THAT WE DIDNT NO-LYNCH

Did you miss the whole "In 5 hours, I will be losing access for a week" thing 5 hours before the hammer?


Did you miss the whole "YOU HAVE A FUCKING MASON NEIGHBOR TO ENSURE THAT A NO-LYNCH DOESN'T OCCUR??"
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Post Post #2130 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:48 am

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In post 2128, Vi wrote:You have no idea how much I've wanted to use this game as an example for... at least a month now.

being a dick in a mafia game works? :?
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Post Post #2131 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:49 am

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In post 2129, Katsuki wrote:
In post 2125, SensFan wrote:
In post 2123, Katsuki wrote:
In post 2121, SensFan wrote:
In post 2120, Katsuki wrote:

YOU
FUCKING IGNORED MY POSTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD
AND SELF-HAMMERED YOURSELF

YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP
USELESS SACK OF "WOE IS ME'

TEN PEOPLE ALIVE. FIVE WANT ME LYNCHED. FIVE WANT IC LYNCHED.
ASSUME WE NO LYNCH.
IT'S FIVE TO LYNCH THE NEXT DAY.
TAKE A WILD FUCKING GUESS WHICH SIDE THE NIGHTKILL WILL COME FROM.



YOU HAD 4 FUCKING HRS BEFORE DEADLINE
OTHERS WERE ON
YOU DONT FUCKING SELF-HAMMER WITH THAT MUCH TIME REMAINING
ESPECIALLY WHEN OTHERS ARE ON TO ENSURE THAT WE DIDNT NO-LYNCH

Did you miss the whole "In 5 hours, I will be losing access for a week" thing 5 hours before the hammer?


Did you miss the whole "YOU HAVE A FUCKING MASON NEIGHBOR TO ENSURE THAT A NO-LYNCH DOESN'T OCCUR??"

You and Mina weren't exactly bastions of defense. I considered the odds that anyone other than me would have the balls to actually fucking hammer the Mason relatively low in the next 4 hours, seeing as no one was willing to move their vote during the previous hours/days/weeks.
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(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
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Post Post #2132 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:51 am

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In post 2122, Fate wrote:Sens' self-vote was out of desperation and frustatin it was a thousand times better than a no lynch.

nope, lol. teehee nl ensured we died next day after i promised to self hammer if needed.
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Post Post #2133 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:54 am

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In post 2132, Faraday wrote:
In post 2122, Fate wrote:Sens' self-vote was out of desperation and frustatin it was a thousand times better than a no lynch.

nope, lol. teehee nl ensured we died next day after i promised to self hammer if needed.

I assumed enough competence on the part of Town to lynch you anyways. Even if literally everyone else in the game was a confirmed-Sane Cop with an Innocent on you, you were still absolutely the right lynch the next Day.
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Post Post #2134 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:56 am

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heh.

nice hyperbole
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Post Post #2135 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:57 am

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In post 2134, Faraday wrote:heh.

nice hyperbole

Not hyperbole. The problem with claiming Venge as Scum is that a Venge is literally a FREE LYNCH. FREE.
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Post Post #2136 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:57 am

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I don't feel like digging up the discussion in 62, so I'll mention what was interesting about this game.

1) Six Neighbors in one game. All Town. The original draft of the setup had ABR as a scum Neighbor (Loud Couch IIRC? It was the one Botones couldn't investigate) but I turned it down.

2) Faraday got in trouble D1. He dragged in a hydra-replacement as he was going down (questionable ethics discussion goes here). They made one of the scummiest must-lynch claims in the meta, Vengeful Townie. And through the sheer power of talking nonstop, they managed to not only not get lynched D1, they UNclaimed Vengeful Townie (this is definitely the first game I have ever heard of "unclaiming") in spite of it being the claim that saved them from getting lynched D1, got a power role who was correctly mod-outguessed to be confirmed Town lynched (remember, Minineko was a last-minute addition to the setup and it's much more likely that it'll be an extra Townie getting thrown in), and survived to endgame through a crowd of Neighbors who for the most part correctly read each other as Town.

And what's more amazing about this is that after seeing an unclaim in this game, I've seen it happen in other games. This is also yet another example of a game that SCREAMING DEATH has steamLOLled through doing what everyone already knows they do. It's like people want the meta to change so that the tactics used in this victory are
rewarded
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Post Post #2137 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:00 am

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In post 2135, SensFan wrote:Not hyperbole. The problem with claiming Venge as Scum is that a Venge is literally a FREE LYNCH. FREE.

kinda think it worked well
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Post Post #2138 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:01 am

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That post wasn't a knock on the Irish Carbomb team, to be clear. That was not an easy win, and not just anyone could have done it.
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Post Post #2139 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:02 am

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In post 2138, Vi wrote:That post wasn't a knock on the Irish Carbomb team, to be clear. That was not an easy win, and not just anyone could have done it.


Reck had Dram in this game.
Faraday had Mina in this game.

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Post Post #2140 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:03 am

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In post 2137, Faraday wrote:
In post 2135, SensFan wrote:Not hyperbole. The problem with claiming Venge as Scum is that a Venge is literally a FREE LYNCH. FREE.

kinda think it worked well

If you think you won this through any particular excellence of play, then I distinctly beg to differ.
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Post Post #2141 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:04 am

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In post 2140, SensFan wrote:
In post 2137, Faraday wrote:
In post 2135, SensFan wrote:Not hyperbole. The problem with claiming Venge as Scum is that a Venge is literally a FREE LYNCH. FREE.

kinda think it worked well

If you think you won this through any particular excellence of play, then I distinctly beg to differ.

YEP LOL. but luckily you're a retard who self hammers so your opinion is invalid.
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Post Post #2142 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:05 am

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In post 2141, Faraday wrote:
In post 2140, SensFan wrote:
In post 2137, Faraday wrote:
In post 2135, SensFan wrote:Not hyperbole. The problem with claiming Venge as Scum is that a Venge is literally a FREE LYNCH. FREE.

kinda think it worked well

If you think you won this through any particular excellence of play, then I distinctly beg to differ.

YEP LOL. but luckily you're a retard who self hammers so your opinion is invalid.

And luckily you Hydra'd your way out of being lynched D1 so yours is exceptionally valid.
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Post Post #2143 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:05 am

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In post 2139, Katsuki wrote:
In post 2138, Vi wrote:That post wasn't a knock on the Irish Carbomb team, to be clear. That was not an easy win, and not just anyone could have done it.


Reck had Dram in this game.
Faraday had Mina in this game.

Nuff said.

yeah chamber/ether day 1, mini, vitamin. they're all admirers of me too.
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Post Post #2144 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:06 am

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In post 2142, SensFan wrote:
In post 2141, Faraday wrote:
In post 2140, SensFan wrote:
In post 2137, Faraday wrote:
In post 2135, SensFan wrote:Not hyperbole. The problem with claiming Venge as Scum is that a Venge is literally a FREE LYNCH. FREE.

kinda think it worked well

If you think you won this through any particular excellence of play, then I distinctly beg to differ.

YEP LOL. but luckily you're a retard who self hammers so your opinion is invalid.

And luckily you Hydra'd your way out of being lynched D1 so yours is exceptionally valid.

i am morally reprehensible, but you still self hammered. i win. you lose. suck it up, champ.
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Post Post #2145 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:12 am

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In post 2128, Vi wrote:You have no idea how much I've wanted to use this game as an example for... at least a month now.



Oh.

Fuck.

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Post Post #2146 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:15 am

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Self-hammering can be completely valid. I still maintain that xReck should've argued for his own lynch in the original Liten (3-1-1 endgame and he was obv getting lynched sooner or later).
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Post Post #2147 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:15 am

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it wasn't in this case though, but whatever
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Post Post #2148 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:16 am

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In post 2144, Faraday wrote:
In post 2142, SensFan wrote:
In post 2141, Faraday wrote:
In post 2140, SensFan wrote:If you think you won this through any particular excellence of play, then I distinctly beg to differ.

YEP LOL. but luckily you're a retard who self hammers so your opinion is invalid.

And luckily you Hydra'd your way out of being lynched D1 so yours is exceptionally valid.

i am morally reprehensible, but you still self hammered. i win. you lose. suck it up, champ.

We can agree to disagree. I've been on record for years that Town should self-hammer to avoid a NL even if they're Cop-cleared Innocent.
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Post Post #2149 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:32 am

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In post 2136, Vi wrote:I don't feel like digging up the discussion in 62, so I'll mention what was interesting about this game.

1) Six Neighbors in one game. All Town. The original draft of the setup had ABR as a scum Neighbor (Loud Couch IIRC? It was the one Botones couldn't investigate) but I turned it down.

2) Faraday got in trouble D1. He dragged in a hydra-replacement as he was going down (questionable ethics discussion goes here). They made one of the scummiest must-lynch claims in the meta, Vengeful Townie. And through the sheer power of talking nonstop, they managed to not only not get lynched D1, they UNclaimed Vengeful Townie (this is definitely the first game I have ever heard of "unclaiming") in spite of it being the claim that saved them from getting lynched D1, got a power role who was correctly mod-outguessed to be confirmed Town lynched (remember, Minineko was a last-minute addition to the setup and it's much more likely that it'll be an extra Townie getting thrown in), and survived to endgame through a crowd of Neighbors who for the most part correctly read each other as Town.

And what's more amazing about this is that after seeing an unclaim in this game, I've seen it happen in other games. This is also yet another example of a game that SCREAMING DEATH has steamLOLled through doing what everyone already knows they do. It's like people want the meta to change so that the tactics used in this victory are
rewarded
.

so this game would be an example of what?

Why you policy lynch liars on the spot?
I don't really know what this is an example of, per se

Also Sens stop being fucking butthurt

We literally went from being at L-1 on DAY ONE, made the BALLSIEST claim ever as scum, and managed to bus both of our buddies AND our traitor and pull out a win

Stop crying. We won because we outplayed town. "Oh but the town left alive was derptown" YES, THAT'S WHY WE KILLED OFF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE ON THE RIGHT TRACK

We had good play here, it was calculated, and it won us the game.
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