Large Normal 209: BooneyToonz VI - Journey to Boon Island!

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Well im not ascetic SK.
But if you're thinking that, wouldnt pisskop have shot me?
If im ascetic wouldnt a tracker get no result instead of went nowhere?

Well the later one i guess we can ask the mod when he gets back.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

If you think that then why arent you lynching me. I just want to help out rid scum as much as possible before i die.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Anyway. Without anything else to go on I’m ok with the hoods being the subject of our lynch pool.

my hood's me, kokichi, tchill and egg for reference.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

So if Kaede is claiming the Himiko shot, then that means Pisskop shot himself somehow, didn't shoot or was blocked somehow.

shot himself is impossible, redirection's not a thing in Normals, that was one of the subjects yesterday remember?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Kaede your post goes against what you said in the hood.

?

P-Edit: That would go through WM, kills happen simultanously.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Well i was expecting to wake up dead tbh.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Well i was expecting to wake up dead tbh.

Is this a scum claim?

No, coz i was expecting scum to kill me

[Kaede Akamatsu]

In the hood, I asked Kaede if I should be townreading Himiko, and she basically didn't give any reason why I shouldn't. I think Kaede has to be mafia or SK

I intend to vote her, but we should wait on the others to make sure there isn't any results or anything.

If i give any intent of shooting Himiko and there's scum in the hood what would've happened?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

In the hood, I asked Kaede if I should be townreading Himiko, and she basically didn't give any reason why I shouldn't. I think Kaede has to be mafia or SK

I intend to vote her, but we should wait on the others to make sure there isn't any results or anything.

If i give any intent of shooting Himiko and there's scum in the hood what would've happened?

How many people are in said hood?

I just mentioned it
Me, Koki, egg and tchill

[Kaede Akamatsu]

At this point imo Kaede is blatant scum
in what planet are 2 NK'S BLOCKED

In BooneyToonz VI!

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I mean, i 100% shot nagito N1, and unless he was lying which is possible, that means N1 also had 2 blocked kills.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I have a whirlwind in my head right now.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Why was Egg so resistant to read overnight if he's a neighbor? The entire argument that it's pointless if you die before you get a chance to share any of your thoughts doesn't apply then.

Actually, that's a good point.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I mean, i 100% shot nagito N1, and unless he was lying which is possible, that means N1 also had 2 blocked kills.

or piss didn't shoot

Hmm possible i guess.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Hmm well.
I guess it's better to just drop the act and speak the truth.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Ok fine, im an SK.
Im losing anyways, I just wanted to help town win, the Himiko kill was 100% trying to hit scum, but you probably wont believe me anyway.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Ok fine, im an SK.
Im losing anyways, I just wanted to help town win, the Himiko kill was 100% trying to hit scum, but you probably wont believe me anyway.

Let us direct shots and I willing to let you live.

But, wouldnt that also let scum influence the shots?
Well, whatever, I just want town to win this since im losing, i've always been a town player at heart anyway.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

No, you can shoot scum still without having them influence your reads.

Yeah, but scum will have input in the leash no?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

At this point I already lost so i dont really care how you wants want to use my NKs, if you want to let me try to hit scum on my own or leash me, do whatever you have to win.

Just lemme know in advance if you're gonna lynch or leash me or let me live to try to let me shoot scum.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Nope, who do you think is truly town?

Hmm, that would be you, WM and skirt skirt.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Btw as someone was asking, no im not ascetic.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Oh yeah, that reminds me.
Nagito was trying to lynch Assemble, was he busing then? or was a mislynch attempt on Lynchbait.

Although if assemble has NK protection maybe the former?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I still dont like S_S.
Srceen is town

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Kaede what are your night actions until now?

N1 shot Nagito
N2 shot Himiko

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Oh, I believe you. You were mechanically confirmed to be not a vigilante anyway even without Pisskop's flip, thanks to you taking the credit for Himiko's death.

?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

We don't need an sk

We need doc on me every single night and town will win the game because I'm the best ever

Yeah the person townreading Nagito will totally lead town to win.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Oh, I believe you. You were mechanically confirmed to be not a vigilante anyway even without Pisskop's flip, thanks to you taking the credit for Himiko's death.

?

If you were actually a vigilante, the kill wouldn't have gone through.

I don't get what you're implying, but im not strongman so if you're claiming protection/rb is a bust.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

But you will probably know that after i flip anyway.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Were not lynching you

votes say otherwise.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Yeah, i totally dont get why scum would let me live.

P-Edit: No I didnt.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

@Skirt:

Kaede what are your night actions until now?

N1 shot Nagito
N2 shot Himiko

I've already given up on my win con because i fucked up, i wanted to kill scum but couldnt put that lie out of my mind and took an irresponsible action, it's up to you whether you want to believe me or not, if you dont believe me well idc and ill just pray you guys dont get rekt by scum.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Kaede will 100% take a potshot at me and this town will absolutely falter because you apes can't do anything but scratch your butts and mislynch greens without me there to assist you.

Like Nagito right?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I don't know which she is

The point of the matter

She is not town

Her role being alive affects the town wincon

We are killing it with fire

My role being alive also affects scum wincon.
I already gave up on living.
I promise to give it my all to scumhunt if you decide to let me live, but if you're gonna be like this i'll just stop bothering and take the loss.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I think that a 4 year old kid could've correctly lynched Nagito after that shitshow of a fake claim.

And my claim of shooting him outed that claim.

Although i do admit that was also thanks to your gambit.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

yeah i do trust skirt skirt more than i trust trans.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Well even if you lynch me, i wish you all good luck.
I hope at least my work doesnt go to waste.

P-Edit: what's a boon role?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

You shot the town tracker

Get the fuck out of my game

Lynch yourself

Yeah, town's never wrong right?
That's why we all lynched Mulch, correct?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Im using the word town as a definition for uninformed there, i know im not.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

What night did the theoretical shot on assemble take place

We are theorizing N2 according to pisskop's hood

I think?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Hmm is it possible that was another missing shot from N1 too?
Nagito wanted him dead badly D2.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Transcend obviously wants another short day.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Things to take in mind, along with his TR of Nagito faking a clear on him.
Idk, this WIFOM is for you guys anyway.
Since apparently im getting lynched today.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

STOP MISREPPING ME YOU PIECE OF SHIT

DIE YOU FUCKING COCKROACH

Eww cockroaches.
Oh wait that's you right?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Should i start spamming BS so you get me lynched faster?
That's what you want right?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

If you felt that way about me then why didn't you shoot me when i was gonna get your obv scum ass lynched anyways lol

Because it's WIFOM, and Himiko was confirmed liar to me.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

You're already doing it a ton

Well it IS fun after all.
But you're the one wanting to cut the deadline short.
So im asking you

[Kaede Akamatsu]

If you felt that way about me then why didn't you shoot me when i was gonna get your obv scum ass lynched anyways lol

Because it's WIFOM, and Himiko was confirmed liar to me.

Naw himiko didn't lie, you're just an ascetic lol

It's mod confirmed that she lied lol

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Guess you arent even reading.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

So there's a claimed tracker in my hood
Their result was Kaede visited nobody

Them and myself both asked Boon whether they would see a visiting role visit a hider who hid behind a townie. Answer was ye

s.

Well how about we ask the mod then?

@Mod: If a vig shoots a hider that is hiding, what result would a tracker tracking the vig get?

If a hypothetical vig shoots a hider, the hider would obviously be safe. The action of the hypothetical vigilante wouldn’t have gone through. Hypothetical Tracker would see the action not go through, thus receiving a “Did not go anywhere.” result, as the hypothetical tracker wouldn’t have been blocked themselves in anyway.

*EDIT: Hide would be similar to how a commuter is, as opposed to a BP being shot.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

And people want to leave you alive

Gee I wonder why.
Maybe because I actually shot scum N1 albeit it failed?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Yeah sure, make scum's life a lot easier.
Not to worry about being NK'd.

Must be pretty nice.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I said i wanted to help you guys, but transcend's posts are making me regret that decission and just lynch myself here.

Maybe he's just scum, but eh, im getting tired of this back and forth.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

You're welcome for the Nagito lynch btw.

Damn i never expected this town to be so ungrateful.

Maybe it was silly of me to even want to work with you guys.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

@Everyone not named Transcend: I may fall here, but as I said, im a town player by heart, please dont lose to scum.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Ok. So here is the plan.
We lynch Assem.
He films scum Kaede kills trans.
He flips town Kaede kills either ScatScat or me.
There has got to be scum in our hood.

I'm fine with that plan but...
If scum has protection im worried about openly saying who im targeting.
I will follow it if you guys think this is ok

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Don't let the sk kill me i need protection i have something very powerful on night 4

Not to worry you but...
You do realized that if there's any protection roles is most likely on the scum team?
If you're really town, i doubt you're getting any. Specially after a claim like that since scum would know you're town.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

If anything any shot at you surviving if you're town is for scum to send me bullets tonight.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I did?
I did claim I did. But now... why would I do that?
Is it not because im taking responsibility for my actions?
Because I want to work with town?

You know if I wanted to screw you all I could've lied about a bunch of things.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I was a claimed vig, i could've easily lied and said i was RB'd or my kill failed, I took responsibility for my action, and explained my reasoning behind it.
If despite this you don't trust me that's on you.

But I feel I've expressed my willingness to say the truth and be open to help as much as possible.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Although if what you guys are saying is true, and trans thing will make him suicide, then there's no need to worry for me anyway, that WIFOM will resolve itself.

I express that im not up for NK trans.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

This is what i get for telling the truth huh.
Guess i should stop being so nice to others.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I already apologized for that.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

P-Edit: I can ignore the dog, but the votes still say otherwise.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Plus it's also reliant on what kind of PRs the scumteam has.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

As far as I know games are balanced to benefit town more than scum to begin with, so if scum has powerful PRs then it's not farfetched that town has more PRs, i'd worry if scum is mostly vanilla save 1 or 2 protection roles and Nagito's role cop.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Regarding setup spec i come from the school that mountainous is super scum sided and go from there.

It could also be balanced around me shooting scum like Nagito.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Wait how do we know that Kaede isn't mafia?

So I powerbus my partner, claim to have shot a town PR, claim SK and get lynched when mafia's already losing?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

at least SOMEONE acknowledges i caught scum.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I mean i dont really care if im lynched now or later my win con's already forfeit all i wanted was to offer my NKs and scumhunting to help find scum and/or at least make scum have to shoot me because i prefer playing that way.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Can sks win? How?

Idk, i've never won as one, my playstyle makes it pretty hard to win as one.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

sks win by surviving till the end and killing everyone else

The "surviving till the end" is the part im bad at xD

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Oh well at least trans probably town so whatevs.
I was getting worried because he snowed me on his scumgame where he was scumreading me almost all game, then had to give up on my slot when i rep'd out due to accidentally finding out scum due to mod error.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

That's the reason that everyone always gives, but have you ever asked if lynching me doesnt help groupscum's win con as well?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Think about it.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

SKs are certainly an anti town alignment, im not gonna deny that coz it's true. Unless you think im gonna kill townies and help scum doesnt mean i cant be lynched later. As you already know i exist.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

It's fine if you dont trust me, I respect that notion.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Oh I know who this is

Rofl

Teehee~

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Tbh i played one other game with you but you were in a hydra and got n1ed

Eh i dont remember that one.
I've been in a lot of games, but that one left quite a mark in my memory due to that mod error.
If i got N1'd it makes sense i wouldnt remember it.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Loyal fails if targets scum (if town)

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Ok so i need your help here guys, you said something about "boon roles"
Am i to assume those roles refer to the non-normal non-blacklisted roles a large normal can have?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

And if yes to the above, does boon always use 2 of those on Larges?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Well basically, I barely see Loyal even on themes, which is what i like to play the most (hence why i generally forget about black listed roles), and just to verify i decided to do my homework this time and Loyal is not black listed but not explicitly normal either, so this should resolve either way if boon always uses 2 of those for Larges.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Or that can happen i guess.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Wait, did Assemble claim who he targeted?

Me

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I'm not ascetic, if it was scum RB Himiko would be alive, could be something else tho.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Ugh please dont make me paranoid now.
I rather not have to be paranoid.

P-Edit well ok.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

It's Kaede or assembler for me unless I'm thoroughly convinced ss has a red role PM

Well i think Nagito's read on S_S was weird, that's what me and Kokichi spent on the Neighborhood figuring out.
I should've just shot him instead of Himiko...

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Cool I'm confirmed dominator now

I'd say not necessarily, but with such a weird ass name like that then yes.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Ugh please dont make me paranoid now.
I rather not have to be paranoid.

P-Edit well ok.

you are neutral, the lynch should not matter in the slightest as long as its not you.

unless you're scum with a reason to be paranoid?

The lynch matters coz i already lost, so i want to kill scum.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

but this is disingenuous, saying you want to kill scum is required for your claimed wincon. actually wanting to isn't. there is no reason to be paranoid about hitting town.

I gave up on my win condition the momment i claimed SK, I just want to help town win before i die.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

if boon actually made a role called the dominator i will die laughing

Isnt that role name confirmed to you by definition of your own?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Kaede was ok with killing Assemblerotws but not ok with Transend.

Transcend said his role will kill hiself or hinted to it, so i figured he'd resolve himself anyway.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Also a role that an enabler enables doesnt necessarily have to exist, but as i said earlier, such a weird ass name, plus Trans claiming first makes it credible, doesnt mean that dunk is telling the truth tho.

P-Edit: Oh i see ok.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

last game i was loyal vig

that sounds pretty NU

[Kaede Akamatsu]

For the last fucking time

I only ENTERTAINED multiball

And i never speculated much about it at all until i was prodded

VOTE: Kaede sry l

It's k, this was happening regardless.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I just want you guys to not lose okay?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Hang on you had a soft guilty result on pk n1 yet you didn't push on him at all?

Oh right...
I didnt even think about that since pk was a vig and was like "oh ok".
Also if there's a gunsmith (and he's actually town) scum def has a doctor.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Kaede is someone i have a lot of admiration for so I'm ok with sparing her at this point

I am?
Oh wow i didnt know that. Thanks.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

You admire a painting on the wall. Not a killer with a knife.

Spoiler: V3 spoiler

*Killer with a Shot put ball

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Well its just how you bowed out when you figured out i was scum by a mod error

Yeah a lot of things like that happened to me, players discussing ongoing games or revealing information from an ongoing game where i was already in with them and things like that, what bad luck, had to rep out of a few for that reason.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

No need to lynch kaede, it's literally against our win condition

???

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I can understand you not wanting to lynch me if you want more shots at night.
But lynching me IS part of your win con if you're town (well also if you're scum, but scum can NK me anyway)

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Actually, doesn't lynching Kaede benefit scum more than town?

I've been saying that for a while.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Actually.
Wouldnt scum have stopped me last night if they had any way to do so.
Same thing for the pisskop kill if he claimed in the hood and scum heard him.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Yeah, although they'd have to know who im shooting.
Which is why im not 100% sure we should be discussing that i should kill X yes or yes, i mean, i can do so, but if scum rolestops them then it wont do anything.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I reckon ass is scum jk that saved bee n1

Not possible (unless i was jk and not bee), i would've been seen visiting bee.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Also i reckon that the sk is probably bulletproof and vig shot at it

Whether im BP or not i wont claim coz scum's probably more concerned with that info than town.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Everyone always says my analysis's suck but nobody ever explains why ;-;

Your analysis sux
(j/k)

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I'm kinda hoping that scum kills me instead of trans.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

who cares about the lurkers i have all their alignments sorted except for one

There's no harm in waiting i think.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

1. Fykus is town
2. Dunkerdoodles is town
3. TywinL is town
4. WhyMafia is town
5. Assemblerotws is scum
6. UnaBombah is scum
8. Srceenplay is town
9. Egg Celestia Ludenberg is scum
10. Tchill13 is town
12. Kaito Momota is null
13. skirt skirt Chisa Yukizome is town
18. Something_Smart is town
20. Kaede Akamatsu is sk
21. Kokichi Oma is scum

I agree with most of these btw.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Im 95% sure that Fykus, Dunker, Trans, Tywin, WM, Srceen, and Kokichi are all town.
Im 50/50 on skirt skirt, logically they seem to be genuinely trying to figure me out.
Im 80% sure that Something_Smart is scum
Im 100% sure that Assemble is scum.
Everyone else i have nfi

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Im gonna vote Assemble, but i want to wait until more ppl had time to chime in.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Oh wait I forgot that Kokichi made that weird post about the win condition, maybe he's scum too, but i have trouble reading newbies.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

OK, up to date.

Any other thoughts?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Yeah, unfortunately your thoughts are muddled by what everyone else has said already.

Oh well, i got enough information anyway

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Im 95% sure that Fykus, Dunker, Trans, Tywin, WM, Srceen, and Kokichi are all town.
Im 50/50 on skirt skirt, logically they seem to be genuinely trying to figure me out.
Im 80% sure that Something_Smart is scum
Im 100% sure that Assemble is scum.
Everyone else i have nfi

[Kaede Akamatsu]

If you guys are gonna lynch me there's something i need to say before that so you dont get mad at me post-game (or post-flip)

[Kaede Akamatsu]

idec if you lynch me Something_Scum

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Why are you in such a hurry to convince people, instead of asking me why my reads are what they are.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Unfortunately i've seen lately that people dont put much thought into some things that people say, or their motives. Even if they say or think they do.
For instance, Nagito's Hider claim.
There was also a game i was in where a townie fake claimed a PR and then got lynched when they retracted it, because people are like that, and ironically, he did it to demonstrate this fact.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

This also makes me quite certain that when i reveal everything im just gonna get lynched, town's probably gonna ignore my posts, and proceed to never lynch scum.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

But I want to at least be able to come here, and point it out so i can come back later and say "I told you guys!"

[Kaede Akamatsu]

btw i crumbed something to day, but im p.sure only DR alts can figure it out.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Kaede needs to be the lynch after consideration. Could be multiball, plus scum have a rolestopper/doctor confirmed assuming we believe kaede isn't lying (if she is it's irrelevant) so she's almost useless for us anyways.

Brrrap brrrap. Skirt skirt.

Pls dont be scum btw...
You're the only one here that if town i can count on to figure things out after my death.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

This also makes me quite certain that when i reveal everything im just gonna get lynched, town's probably gonna ignore my posts, and proceed to never lynch scum.

But you're not town. I agree that it can sometimes be a mistake to lynch town who fakeclaimed, but you're not town so fakeclaiming is your job.

So what do you care?

Am i not?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Skirt Skirt's the only one to seem to have noticed it.
But they need to lynch me anyway to remove the wifom.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

There's been the theories of multiball or SK lying around, I'd argue that anyone that believed i was SK without consideration is mostly town who have no access to inside information.
Now who are the ones that thought i could be wolf?

Oh and btw... im flipping green.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

P-Edit: I can ignore the dog, but the votes still say otherwise.

"Perjury, a statement that paints over the truth with lies, sometimes lying is necessary to find the truth"
Im pretty sure Kaito or Kokichi can tell you what im talking about.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Regardless even if im lynched, you now see what i was trying to do, and hopefully will look back at this entire day to see who's town and who's scum and win from there.
Hopefully...
But i kinda dont have faith in it happening due to previous experiences, but even if it doesnt happen as i said i can just look back here and say "I told you guys!"

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Unexpected tactics are necessary to catch scum in an information slip after all.
If they were expected they wouldnt work.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Unexpected tactics are necessary to catch scum in an information slip after all.
If they were expected they wouldnt work.

And yet... somehow no scum made any information slips.

I wonder why.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

But if you believe that i could be town, and am being an idiot, doesnt that imply that you should believe assemble is fake claiming since his JK should have worked?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

But if you believe that i could be town, and am being an idiot, doesnt that imply that you should believe assemble is fake claiming since his JK should have worked?

No? I don't think you're a vig.

Did you get that information from Nagito?
Interesting.
Keep going.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

So?
There were 4 claimed kills N1 2 of them blocked.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Did you get THAT information from Nagito?

Yup:

Nagiro, which scum kill was your faction? Your team is losing now, so they'll be my focus

Neither my teams kill was blocked.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Tho i have no idea what shenanigans went on on N1 if Nagito's telling the truth, but ill ask him in the dead PT after im lynched, im pretty curious myself.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

And you trust that... why?

Because im a vig, with another flipped vig, and this multiball theory, it makes sense to be 4 sources of kills.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

But eh.
Im second guessing myself on S_S now.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Oh well anyways this is still lying so
VOTE: Assemble

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Im dissapointed in myself, crazy gambits are supposed to be the only thing im good at and if im wrong on S_S being scum then my play this game was basically trash and im not good at anything.

Sigh...

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Btw S_S we have played before, but it was in a marathon.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Vig is my favorite role and i was excited about it until i got outed D2.
But it is what it is i guess.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Didn’t you say you shot and missed flipped scum? Why?

That was N1, and im not saying i didnt shoot.

Basically forcing this into 1v1 with ass right?(because of night action claims)?

For N2 however, yes.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

What if I told you that I lied and I'm not one?

Fun, but i dont think you were lying.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I feel like we are not discussing reads anymore: we are discussing potential setups and roles, likelyhoods for hoods having scum in them and believable balance.
ECH.

You can start by discussing what I was discussing with S_S earlier.
If you agree or disagree with my conclusions, why, etc?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Should i uneven them again? xD

just kidding.

Im not self voting.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Wanna hear a story?

Once upon a time I played an Open game called Pick your Power, I was a watcher, got lucky and got an useful role, then i got vigged N1, no one ever gave the vig any crap, yet when im a vig and misfire people get mad, isnt that kinda unfair?. Sometimes I wonder why I even bother trying to earn the trust of people, but, it is what it is. Regardless this game has taught me a valuable lesson... if i misvig, i shouldnt ever take credit for it.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Also the people not voting need to start taking a side.
The people that have been lurking need to start contributing.
Im not getting any younger here.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

If you agree or disagree with my conclusions, why, etc?

I'm more interested in how you got there..

I think we got so many claims and "claims" today, that it interferes with my reads.
I previously had a scumhunch on Kokichi, but not anymore.
I scumread you, so your whole claim-sequence has left me baffled..
I think tonights kill(s) will open everything more for me.

How i got there? I already posted it here:

There's been the theories of multiball or SK lying around, I'd argue that anyone that believed i was SK without consideration is mostly town who have no access to inside information.
Now who are the ones that thought i could be wolf?

Oh and btw... im flipping green.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

@Una: So basically, you're implying my gambit is stupid and may have failed?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Good thing he won't flip town.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Honestly tho, im just gonna be a walking ball of WIFOM for as long as I live. Town's win precedes whatever utility my role may have and if my sacrifice will get confscum lynched then so be it.

I don't want to stay alive if im just gonna be potential lynchbait any future days.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I already said as much as I wanted to say.
But we still havent heard much from tchill and Kaito.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

lol dat spam.
Oh well, good luck guys.
And again... sorry for the misvig.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Im 95% sure that Fykus, Dunker, Trans, Tywin, WM, Srceen, and Kokichi are all town.
Im 50/50 on skirt skirt, logically they seem to be genuinely trying to figure me out.
Im 80% sure that Something_Smart is scum
Im 100% sure that Assemble is scum.
Everyone else i have nfi

Don't forget.
Tho egg is probably town, it's the only difference since then.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I don't buy your fake hammer "town slip" btw.

Smart.
But even if i was scum, i'd act that way to any hammer fake or real, so it's a wise choice.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Why.
I already said I wanted to be lynched today...

[Kaede Akamatsu]

@Egg: Just for the future, if you're gonna be pointing posts numbers while catching up it's gonna make it hard to follow, use these:

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[Kaede Akamatsu]

Was it?
I wasn't paying attention.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

So you think my plan is to get my partner to mechanically engage in a 1v1 with me?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Oh and btw, i didnt shoot last night, I was outta shots anyway so that's why I didnt mind being lynched yesterday as much.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

why multiball is shit:

we've hit scum 2/3 times and it is 8:2:2 most likely which is absolute horseshit. we literally don't have 4 lynches left if scum don't cross kill. i don't know why people like this.

I agree with you, I hate multiball too, but because I have a harder time scumhunting since i townread ppl based on their scumhunting.

P-Edit: Oh! i guess that makes sense, oh well feel free to continue suspecting me then.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

That's a worst case scenario tho, and my shot missed Nagito.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I was mostly hoping scum would kill me so I didnt have to endure all this WIFOM.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Regardless, the revelation that this was actually multiball has hit my morale pretty hard.
It's funny, the 2 scum that have been lynched were linked to me, I shot Nagito, it failed, he got lynched. Assemble fake claimed Loyal on me, he got lynched.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

its funny, scum are never killing you.

Why?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Ok.
Well im gonna be a big ball of WIFOM anyway.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

There's no sk

And there's no way that Kaede is town

Today you die

I already said that i was lynching myself today didnt i? Somewhere around Day 2.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Oh wait i said before XyLo, not on Day 4, Must have confused it with another game, well same thing, if it's gonna be XyLo tomorrow

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Yeah i dont want the day to end early, there's also things i wanna say before dying.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Yeah. Skirt why don't you FoS TChill?

he hasn't really posted since i got into the game, and i know he's busy irl based off that mini that just finished so it isn't tactical necessarily. i do not townread him at all though.

Yeah Egg said something in the hood as well, that he won a scum game by playing very well and riding a miller fake claim or something.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Honestly, the longer i stay in this game is torturing me.
No one trusts me.
No one believes me.
Everyone wants me dead.

Just... please end it already.

Although dont rush the day though.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

pretty sure the above from kaede is as close to a perfect example of AtE as you'll get.

Just checked her ISO
Full of AtE
And it did effect me for a bit

If you lynched me based on AtE alone, you'd hit town 90% of the time (i.e. all the times i roll town)

[Kaede Akamatsu]

ate isn't necessarily scummy

just amusing /if/ she's scum and thinks it'll get her out of a lynch

Im not trying to get out of a lynch, I want to be lynched.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

This is what I get for trusting kokichi saying he would "clear" me.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

pretty sure the above from kaede is as close to a perfect example of AtE as you'll get.

Just checked her ISO
Full of AtE
And it did effect me for a bit

If you lynched me based on AtE alone, you'd hit town 90% of the time (i.e. all the times i roll town)

jsyk if you're going to secret alt that's fine and all but don't cite your meta lmfao

It's not a secret alt, im just not mentioning my main coz i want that if people are gonna meta read me, at least they know me well enough to figure out who i am.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

This is what I get for trusting kokichi saying he would "clear" me.

Both tchill and egg should be able to confirm this btw.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Well it just feels like every game is like the lottery. But I will expand onto that later.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Well it just feels like every game is like the lottery. But I will expand onto that later.

Actually i changed my mind, ill expand onto it post-game, it'd be unfair to bring it up now.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

okay

do you want to get into whatever the beautiful things you wanted to say are? because it is pretty much unanimous you're the lynch based on posters and you're probably l-2 or 3.

I will yeah, im busy irl right now tho, give me an hour or 2.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Ugh, im here, but i dont even know where to begin.
I need to get my thoughts in order.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Sorry, this is taking a while but im super scared right now, saying what i want to say might end up badly for me, but i just dont want to not say it and im having an internal conflict.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

@Kokichi:

This is what I get for trusting kokichi saying he would "clear" me.

Care to explain?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Oh well, whatever im just lynchbait anyway.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Guess I made a really big mistake in trusting you.
But that's water under the bridge now.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Yeah that happened but you said it would be a waste.

Yeah because I was thinking scum would NK me, so i left it to Kokichi to decide.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I should've just been lynched yesterday, that would have forced the mafia to shoot a wolf.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I just don't see 4 night kills a night for 2 days. Assemble was pretty obvious scum, so I lied about you me townreading you yesterday so I could get him lynched. I never said I'd clear you, so you are lying. I think you're just trying to tell your partners I might have a clearing role, since the encryptor is dead and you can't talk to them right now.

If i supposedly were going to say that wouldn't have i said it yesterday anyway?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

If what you're saying is true and im scum, I would have had portion of the day phase yesterday and all the night phase to tell them what you said and If i were worried you would scan me and get a guilty i'd have thrown a bullet into your head.
But since this hypothetical chat with scum never happened, you're wrong.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Well if you had done what you said you would and had cleared me I wouldnt be being lynched right now.
But whatever im over it already.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I mean it is technically true that you didnt actually say you would, you just offered the possibility, but that's silly of me to have trusted you knowing your character you're role playing as.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I mean it is technically true that you didnt actually say you would, you just offered the possibility

[Kaede Akamatsu]

It's just that reason why im not straight voting you right now.
Coz if you had actually done something, you'd know im town.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

What would have happened if I never said it then? Hmmmm? What would have changed? Tell the class, Kaede.

I would have been lynched yesterday, flipped town, then Assemble would've been NK'd by mafia (or failed, due to the 1s BP)

[Kaede Akamatsu]

If you think about it, that outcome would have been better no?
A wifom like me flips, then mafia has to NK a wolf.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Why.
I already said I wanted to be lynched today...

This is hours after my post. You still had the same shtick. Why must your lies continue to be bad?

Because that's what i wanted to happen. I was out of shots.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Although now that I think about it, you saying you'd clear me might have had no effect on yesterday's lynch anyway.
I still don't know why i didnt get lynched.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Anyway, you might have failed to clear me, but i will however clear you.