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Post Post #200 (ISO) » Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:32 am

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ZEEnon wrote:ZazieR, you are acting extremely hard to deal with right now.
First of all, I did not claim that I went to check out Mastin's meta to verify.
Second of all, you claim that I
changed
my post.
I wasn't going to post. The reason why I posted was to comment on what I seen.
See the second line in which I state that even without checking it seems very unlikely.
And if you didn't change your post, it means you didn't want to vote Mastin for the same thing you voted him in Open 145 to start with.
So which is it? Did you or did you not want to vote Mastin for the same reason you voted him in Open 145 and why?

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Lamont_Cranston - 5 (Kairyuu, magnus_orion, ortolan,
Mastin
, Starbuck)
Mastin
- 4 (Lamont_Cranston, benmage, PhilyEc, zwetschenwasser)
magnus_orion - 3 (mykonian, Seraphim, ZEEnon)
benmage - 1 (Kmd4390)
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, Jebus, populartajo, Budja, Gorrad, Albert B. Rampage,
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Post Post #201 (ISO) » Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:35 am

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ZazieR, me voting him in Open 145 was just a joke because he claimed scum.
I interpreted his self vote in that game as a joke, and I voted him to fuel it.
His
reaction
to my vote was the problem.
He freaked out, posted a wall-of-text that I didn't bother to read, and then disappeared.
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Post Post #202 (ISO) » Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:37 am

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The difference in this game is that he actually claimed to be a Shinigami,
and to me it seemed seriously. Which is why I questioned him.
In the other game, it seemed like a joke:
Mastin wrote:With that in mind, let's start scum-hunting, shall we?

Mastin Votes: Mastin.
Doesn't seem very serious to me.
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Post Post #203 (ISO) » Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:38 am

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EBWOP:
ZEEnon wrote:The difference in this game is that he actually claimed to be a Shinigami,
and to me it seemed serious
ly
. Which is why I questioned him.
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Post Post #204 (ISO) » Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:42 am

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I'll get back to this after I've seen something.
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Post Post #205 (ISO) » Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:46 am

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Holy shit, this game grows pages like dandelions grow in my backyard. Erm, more content later.
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Post Post #206 (ISO) » Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:48 am

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Kairyuu wrote:DAMNIT!

I just lost a massive post. I'm not rewriting it, as it took me 2 hours to type, and I only have that amount of time left before I leave for a party.
Use notepad! I promise it will help you not lose your posts.
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Post Post #207 (ISO) » Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:53 am

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Seraphim wrote:Holy shit, this game grows pages like dandelions grow in my backyard. Erm, more content later.
:D

I'm watching zazieR v. Zeenon with some interest.
Zeenon, your questioning of mastin faded fairly quickly. Do you no longer think he was being serious? Why?
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Post Post #208 (ISO) » Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:54 am

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Kmd4390 wrote: No. You came on and saw serious stuff and didn't know how to respond in a townie way, so you took the easy way out and jokevoted instead.
This is just false.
Kmd4390 wrote: What is scummy about an early bandwagon in a large game?
I in no way acted scummy and barely even posted, and you wanted to wagon. Definitely a scummy idea imo.
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Post Post #209 (ISO) » Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:55 am

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ZEEnon wrote:Ah, I see why you did that now.
Not sure if it will achieve anything, but i'll trust your judgement.
I state here that I realize why Mastin did what he did.
Not that I necessarily agree that is actually
works
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Post Post #210 (ISO) » Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:56 am

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EBWOP:
ZEEnon wrote:Not that I necessarily agree that i
t
actually works.
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Post Post #211 (ISO) » Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:04 am

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mykonian wrote:OK, kai and Mastin (stop with posting that way, I stopped reading them, so you won't get me convinced or something) seem town on page 4. Magnus is looking like active, but antitown scum, looking for a good place for his vote.

vote Magnus


I can also see the case against Lamont, and the way (ad hom) he reacted after that makes him even more scummy, but I don't know how he plays, so could he be town that messes up?
Nice taking a stance and backing it up early. So MO is scum, and LM is scum. Why did you chose one over the other? This just more seems like a way to be able to easily transition to whoever you feel like.


mykonian wrote:
PhilyEc wrote:
mykonian wrote:he claimed third party, yes, I call that different. We agree on that. I'm still thinking what it means.
Well if he were scum, claiming to have a neutral role MIGHT earn him some credit right off the bat, obviously people didnt like it (Kairyuu seems to have for some uknown reason). Doing it early lets him jump on the 'I claimed before I was forced to so its less likely to be a lie' excuse.

If hes telling the truth, he really shoud've waited >_>
Lets get this straight: death gods don't seem the good guys to me. I don't think scum would claim them, this early. It just doesn't happen often. Third party, with some different wincon, is also not town.

I'm still trying to understand why he claimed.
So you not only believe he claimed some thirdparty/neutral role, but voted someone else because you cant understand why the anti-town but not scum role claimed?

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Post Post #212 (ISO) » Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:38 am

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magnus_orion wrote:
Seraphim wrote:Holy shit, this game grows pages like dandelions grow in my backyard. Erm, more content later.
:D

I'm watching zazieR v. Zeenon with some interest.
Zeenon, your questioning of mastin faded fairly quickly. Do you no longer think he was being serious? Why?
Zeenon's gameplay is getting dodgy...he seems to be riding the tides of how town has went. Has he added any new content that hasnt already been brought up?
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Post Post #213 (ISO) » Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:40 am

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I'm the one who first brought up magnus_orion's constant sways of opinion.
I'm pretty sure i've contributed to this game thus far.
Please explain how my gameplay is dodgy.
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Post Post #214 (ISO) » Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:42 am

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ZEEnon wrote:I'm the one who first brought up magnus_orion's constant sways of opinion.
I'm pretty sure i've contributed to this game thus far.
Please explain how my gameplay is dodgy.
I believe Mastins did that, not you. Its his case on Magnus, you in turn repeated that for Mastins when Magnus asked is there any case on him to begin with.
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Post Post #215 (ISO) » Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:43 am

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Incorrect.
Mastin wrote:I swear, this is truly an interesting day for me. I never knew such mind melds were possible.

Zee says what would take me paragraphs and minutes to.
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Post Post #216 (ISO) » Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:44 am

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LlamaFluff wrote:
mykonian wrote:OK, kai and Mastin (stop with posting that way, I stopped reading them, so you won't get me convinced or something) seem town on page 4. Magnus is looking like active, but antitown scum, looking for a good place for his vote.

vote Magnus


I can also see the case against Lamont, and the way (ad hom) he reacted after that makes him even more scummy, but I don't know how he plays, so could he be town that messes up?
Nice taking a stance and backing it up early. So MO is scum, and LM is scum. Why did you chose one over the other? This just more seems like a way to be able to easily transition to whoever you feel like.
well read. One reason why I didn't continue it at all. But before people think I haven't read it, and lurk, I commented on it, and then continued doing more important things. Some people seem to consider not voting in your first posts a scumtell. So basically, it doesn't say a thing, and it is an incredibly weak post from me. It only somewhat tells who I believe more likely to be town, and who seem more scummy. But with the activity of some players, I can't say a thing about the game, and that is exactly what you are attacking me on.
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Post Post #217 (ISO) » Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:48 am

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ZEEnon wrote:Incorrect.
Mastin wrote:I swear, this is truly an interesting day for me. I never knew such mind melds were possible.

Zee says what would take me paragraphs and minutes to.
So he voted without making it clear why he did? Thats rather unlike Mastin O_o My bad anyways, thought you were just parroting o.o
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Post Post #218 (ISO) » Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:49 am

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PhilyEc wrote:
ZEEnon wrote:Incorrect.
Mastin wrote:I swear, this is truly an interesting day for me. I never knew such mind melds were possible.

Zee says what would take me paragraphs and minutes to.
So he voted without making it clear why he did? Thats rather unlike Mastin O_o My bad anyways, thought you were just parroting o.o
No, Mastin had different reasons to vote and later agreed with ZEEnon's observation.
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Post Post #219 (ISO) » Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:52 am

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on mastin.

claiming third party is not something normal. Esspecially when it is doubtful the third party is on the bad side. (one reason an SK claim is rather stupid). The fact that Mastin still does it, could maybe tell us something:

Mastin doesn't think town will do him harm. (assumption)

this could mean several things:

Mastin his win condition is not harmful for town, and he can't see why they would hurt him (unlikely seen that Mastin is probably smart enough to think like a towny that doesn't know it)

mastin can't lose: Means his deathnote is worthless, or he doesn't have one (in case a lynch on him doesn't do a thing)


Seen that deathnotes give some kind of power, I don't think that is what is happening here. Therefor, I guess that Mastin doesn't have a deathnote.
Mastin, am I right?
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Post Post #220 (ISO) » Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:52 am

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So basically Mastin got it easy when Zee made an excuse for him, before we could see if Mastin had legit reasons? I need to re-read al-fuckin-ready ¬_¬
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Post Post #221 (ISO) » Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:56 am

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PhilyEc wrote:So basically Mastin got it easy when Zee made an excuse for him, before we could see if Mastin had legit reasons? I need to re-read al-fuckin-ready ¬_¬
No, Mastin voted Magnus somewhere at the start due to 'his trap'. And from that moment found many reasons to suspect him.
Later ZEEnon's observation got added.
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Post Post #222 (ISO) » Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:57 am

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Deathnotes gotta give either Day Kills or Night Kills, Myk. They're powerful tools afterall. Maybe is Mastin is a shinigami, hes got conditions that match up with the anime?

Ryuk needs apples? Rem needs Misa alive and noteless? Sidoh needs to regain HIS deathnote?
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Post Post #223 (ISO) » Sat Jun 06, 2009 9:07 am

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Sorry, Myk. Serious scum hunting happens quickly in any game where I play in. ;)
Star wrote:Lamont and Magnus both seem very shady to me. As Kairyuu stated in 35, Lamont attempted to get Mastin mod-killed as well as Magnus tried to direct a vig kill toward him.
Quoted For Truth.
I do think that pushing for a mod kill is scummy. I have a couple people on my scumdar, but Lamont is currently the most suspicious to me, especially because he is ignoring posts and not answering questions asked of him.

Vote: Lamont
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Lamount wrote:Ok folks now that the furious action has lulled, its time for a brief LC overview:
Note how he only does this AFTER he's gained rather the number of votes.
Prob-town
Ortolan

KMD

Magnus

Zee
This list has so many problems in it. The only one which, in your eyes, I can logically see as being true is the bolded one. The italicized ones, in the former's case, has posted almost nothing game-content-wise, and the latter has been scummy (not as much as you, though). The underlined is truly a surprise, considering how Zee and I have agreed on a great number of things, more so than Kai and I.
Scum-like
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Again, how does Kai get onto the list as well, when Zee has been agreeing with me more often than Kai?
I take a dim view of posts like these; alignment obsession.
Odd, I actually see it as a town tell. Others might argue that stating your alignment doesn't make you any more likely to be town, but if that's their argument, it should be considered a null tell.

There's no way to turn it into a scum tell which can't be countered and turned into a null/town tell.
An obviously valid case which I fear
I fixed it for you.
(the bold green section is obviously calling for Mod review)
Again, why call for Mod review if you're not pushing for a modkill?

You never answered.
and severe buddying with Mastin??
I've agreed with Zee. Zee's agreed with me. So, explain to me how Kai's supposed buddying is scummy, while Zee's buddying makes him pro-town in your eyes.

You can't, can you?

I'm calling hypocrisy on this.
Once again there is just something wrong here.
The only thing I see wrong is that you're caught scum and aren't dead yet.
Who believes Mastin is in any way effective??
Hmm, let's see. What did my technique do?

1: It got us out of the RVS in less than a couple of hours, less than three pages, and with only five total players to interact with.

2: It got us scum hunting from very early on,

3: We started debating,

4: It exposed you as scum.

Isn't that the point of the RVS? To get out of it as quickly as possible and begin debating and scum hunting?

So, yes. It was very effective.
More disgusting buddying with someone who should be default-corpse.
1: Again, the hypocrisy, as Zee and I have done nothing different than Kai and I.

2: You're pushing for an instant-death of a player whose actions are clearly a null tell.
OBVTOWN MASTIN?!
I am town. This is how I play. So, yes. Obvtown Mastin. I can see Kai's viewpoint as being legit.
My goodness, this is beyond the pale!
Overreact much, Lamount? Perhaps this is due to the votes on you?
There is something very wrong here.
Yes--that you're not dead yet. You're acting like you're panicked at this stage in the game. No pro-town player should be worried this much, should be this desperate so early on.

You are.

You're not a pro-town player, Lamount.
We caught you, and now you're desperately trying anything to get one of us lynched instead of you.
I called for a Mod review of his jackassery because it hurts the game that the Mod worked hard on.
1: Your quoted post was me self-voting and claiming scum. You've yet to explain how that's Jack-a'dery.

2: You've resulted to personal attacks against other players. Explain to me how that is NOT being a jack-a.
This should make perfect sense to you.
Oh, look! Another personal attack!
Instead you have chosen to drink the kool-aid on that issue.
This also seems like a personal attack against Star for presenting a valid case.
And you're wrong.
Right. "You're wrong." That so totally makes it so that we're wrong and that you're right. [/sarcasm]

Seriously, is that all you can dish out? Insults?
It is a criticism of a playstyle
Which was done in an EXTREMELY negative tone.
that appeared to result in my death.
Again, with the overreacting. You have only a few votes on you. Why so worried?

No pro-town player should be this panicked.
Normally of course this is true
"You're right, but..."

Yea, not buying it.
but Mastin with his Jackassery
1: Again, explain to me how what I did was "jack-a'dery".

2: And can you explain how your personal attacks aren't being a jack-a?
is not normal and he needs to DIE, NAO!.
1: Again with the overreaction...

2: You're saying that this is not a normal case--how?
Less Koolaid, more common sense please.
I agree with this point, Lamount. Your points are blatantly hypocritical and make very little sense. This is not pro-town play. It's pro-scum play, however, and I expect others to see that.




Hmm...there would appear to be many more pages than when I left...

Yay for scum hunting!

This post would be too long to answer pages 6, 7, 8, and 9 as well as the above, so posting it now. 6 is next.
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Post Post #224 (ISO) » Sat Jun 06, 2009 9:08 am

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Names on quotes for the sake of re-reads dude. I cant memorise anything you're bringing up.
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