Mini 2065 - Access Point [Endgame]

rosterfoster · Post Post #1925 (ISO) » Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:51 am

A scumflip gives associatives which help in identifying the other scum.

A town flip is better than no flip, but scumflip is optimal IMO.

ISO · Post Post #1926 (ISO) » Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:03 am

This isn't a normal game of mafia. We dont need associatives because it doesn't matter if we find out who's scum today.

Creature · Post Post #1927 (ISO) » Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:14 am

In post 1923, rosterfoster wrote:Creature, a big shot is good because it gives town a flip to work from.

Are you talking to me or are you suggesting me?

Creature · Post Post #1928 (ISO) » Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:15 am

I'd be alright sending RCE too if you're not fine with insomnia.

RCEnigma · Post Post #1929 (ISO) » Sun Apr 07, 2019 10:20 am

No. Because if it doesn't end the game I'm not likely to put in the effort to figure lylo out.

FakeGod · Post Post #1930 (ISO) » Sun Apr 07, 2019 1:08 pm

VoteCount 3.1

insomnia [3] - rosterfoster, insomnia, Creature
GuyInFreezer [1] - RuiRui

Not Voting [5]

- Trekkie99, GuyInFreezer, GuiltyLion, RCEnigma, Cephrir

With 9 alive it takes 5 votes to be chosen.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2019-04-10 16:00:00)

ISO · Post Post #1931 (ISO) » Sun Apr 07, 2019 4:19 pm

[GL waiting room]

rosterfoster · Post Post #1932 (ISO) » Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:34 pm

Creature it's to have a vig shot, not on you specifically.

It's better to aim for scum because we are more likely to get something which conflicts with people's view of the game-state (e.g. shoot me, becuase when you figure out I'm actually town you might need to reevaluate). This gives us a better chance of making the right decision about who to send.

FTR though I think it's game over if we send Insomnia.

RuiRui · Post Post #1933 (ISO) » Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:10 am

It's definitely not better to aim for scum, we have no reason to shoot scum

Cephrir, it's ok to shoot at me if you can guarantee that guyinfreezer gets in, I'm nervous about Insomnia because of the way he's being pushed in today. I'd be most comfortable if Guiltylion took the shot because I feel you are less likely to let insomnia make it into the AP

rosterfoster · Post Post #1934 (ISO) » Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:12 am

I’m sorry but I really don’t understand. A shot should confirm/contradict the perception of the gamestate. Therefore we shoot hard-town or hard-scumread players. We should be AP’ing the townread ones so it’s better to shoot for scum, no?

insomnia · Post Post #1935 (ISO) » Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:04 am

In post 1933, RuiRui wrote:It's definitely not better to aim for scum, we have no reason to shoot scum

Cephrir, it's ok to shoot at me if you can guarantee that guyinfreezer gets in, I'm nervous about Insomnia because of the way he's being pushed in today. I'd be most comfortable if Guiltylion took the shot because I feel you are less likely to let insomnia make it into the AP

I don’t get the bolded line at all

RCEnigma · Post Post #1936 (ISO) » Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:06 am

VOTE: Rui Rui

ISO · Post Post #1937 (ISO) » Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:21 am

In post 1933, RuiRui wrote:It's definitely not better to aim for scum, we have no reason to shoot scum

Cephrir, it's ok to shoot at me if you can guarantee that guyinfreezer gets in, I'm nervous about Insomnia because of the way he's being pushed in today. I'd be most comfortable if Guiltylion took the shot because I feel you are less likely to let insomnia make it into the AP

I feel similarly tbh

rosterfoster · Post Post #1938 (ISO) » Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:16 am

In post 1934, rosterfoster wrote:I’m sorry but I really don’t understand. A shot should confirm/contradict the perception of the gamestate. Therefore we shoot hard-town or hard-scumread players. We should be AP’ing the townread ones so it’s better to shoot for scum, no?

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #1939 (ISO) » Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:38 am

In post 1935, insomnia wrote:
In post 1933, RuiRui wrote:It's definitely not better to aim for scum, we have no reason to shoot scum

Cephrir, it's ok to shoot at me if you can guarantee that guyinfreezer gets in, I'm nervous about Insomnia because of the way he's being pushed in today. I'd be most comfortable if Guiltylion took the shot because I feel you are less likely to let insomnia make it into the AP
I don’t get the bolded line at all

That means RuiRui is gonna flip town.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #1940 (ISO) » Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:38 am

Also hoi Ceph long time no see etc

insomnia · Post Post #1941 (ISO) » Mon Apr 08, 2019 5:01 am

No like why should GL take the shot and not cephrir?

insomnia · Post Post #1942 (ISO) » Mon Apr 08, 2019 5:02 am

Ohhhhh does vig die if he shoots town?

Now I gwt it

insomnia · Post Post #1943 (ISO) » Mon Apr 08, 2019 5:02 am

So Rui wants to die to send a scum bud and lose the game for town

I see

insomnia · Post Post #1944 (ISO) » Mon Apr 08, 2019 5:03 am

Optimal play : Shoot RC and send rui if anything

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #1945 (ISO) » Mon Apr 08, 2019 5:04 am

If Rui is scum why would she want to reveal her alignment to send people to AP?

insomnia · Post Post #1946 (ISO) » Mon Apr 08, 2019 5:05 am

In post 1945, GuyInFreezer wrote:If Rui is scum why would she want to reveal her alignment to send people to AP?

In post 1944, insomnia wrote:Optimal play : Shoot RC and send rui if anything

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #1947 (ISO) » Mon Apr 08, 2019 5:05 am

If anything Rui flipping scum would probably prevent me from being sent to AP?

insomnia · Post Post #1948 (ISO) » Mon Apr 08, 2019 5:06 am

Why are you so scared to flip?

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #1949 (ISO) » Mon Apr 08, 2019 5:06 am

So you think NSG/RC(me) are potentially scum together and Rui/me are potential scum together but you want to send rui?
I'm confused.