Nintendo Mafia (Game Over)

[Looker]

@lew - no, all is not reduced to that.

@esurio - what are the numbers?

[The Master Hand]

Toast is an idiot.
We never confer about the game; he just complains and I post when I want to/am fed up with it.
I haven't read anything since D5 and I certainly haven't read your walls.

Nonetheless, Kdub/Looker is RIGHT OUT.

[lewarcher82]

I didn't notice I have a vote on myself. This settles it. Three possible scenes:

(1) I was wrong and TMH is scum.
(2) there is only one scum left.
(3) I am scum.

I know for a fact that 3 is wrong. I don't think TMH is scum. If it is option 2 and there is only 1 scum left, I am expendable, and I am absolutely certain it is kdub.

vote:kdub

just end this day already. esurio: if you still have a shot, once I have flipped town you need to be cautious. I am sure you know what I mean.

[The Master Hand]

LOL, seriously? Wasn't Toast the one who was saying lew and I were "safe"? Explain my play (and to an extent, his play) today then.

When the hell did I call you "safe"? I said on multiple occasions that lew was a suspect, but you kept being all like "MER MER MER ANSWER THIS AND THIS AND THIS"

ugh,

Toast is an idiot.
We never confer about the game; he just complains and I post when I want to/am fed up with it.
I haven't read anything since D5 and I certainly haven't read your walls.

...I could rage for hours about this post, but it would be too distracting for this thread. All I'm saying is you have no right to criticize my play in this game. You made it difficult, so I had to nag.
-Toast

[lewarcher82]

I think he meant a safe-LYNCH, kdub. Otherwise, why vote me?

[jmj3000]

Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 3

Kdub

- 1 - lewarcher82 (L-2)

lewarcher82

- 1 -The Master Hand (L-2)

Players not voting: esuriospiritus, Kdub, Looker, The Master Hand

(expired on 2011-07-17 02:30:00)

[Kdub]

When the hell did I call you "safe"? I said on multiple occasions that lew was a suspect, but you kept being all like "MER MER MER ANSWER THIS AND THIS AND THIS"

Post 1785:

I think we are in a situation where a scum team was very safe, but the whittling down of players had put them into a dilemma. Who are the safest players in the game? Kdub and lewarcher.

I think what you are implying here by "safe" is that we were not under suspicion (which, if you accept, makes Andy's Kdub-lew scumteam an insane proposal). If I am wrong, then please explain what you meant here.

I know for a fact that 3 is wrong. I don't think TMH is scum. If it is option 2 and there is only 1 scum left, I am expendable, and I am absolutely certain it is kdub.

Thanks for explaining your TMH town read

@esurio:
I'll give you 24 hours to finish whatever you were saying before I put my vote down. I'm pretty sure I'm going to vote lew since there's a bit more evidence against him than TMH, but I'd accept a TMH lynch as well.

[The Master Hand]

I think what you are implying here by "safe" is that we were not under suspicion (which, if you accept, makes Andy's Kdub-lew scumteam an insane proposal). If I am wrong, then please explain what you meant here.

Umm...no. "Safe" DOES mean that you were not under suspicion, but I was saying that being in that situation may have allowed you to sacrifice Patb, who was also safe at the time. Hence, you guys could be a scum team. If I thought being safe meant you weren't scum, why wouldn't I have just said "they aren't scum?"

-Toast

[esuriospiritus]

re: the numbers:

moar points = moar likely to be scum. statistically and all that jazz.

I'm not getting into the details because I'm lazy, but suffice to say I basically copied DGB's system.

That said, last time I did this one of the scum had the max points and one of them had the least. So it's not all that reliable, but it was ... interesting regardless. I could see lew consciously avoiding certain wagons because of VCA.

BTW, the bulletproof questions weren't

purely

hypothetical -- it was a reaction test. Lew's response to me makes it obvious that he wasn't the one who gave it to me, which is what I originally thought because his claimed power seems so weak and redundant and it would make more sense to me if he was hiding that long enough to give it to me, but I guess not.

I've read between the lines a little and have a pretty good idea of who it is, but I'll save it for tomorrow because we can maybe confirm a second person if they don't get shot tonight and basically auto-win this. All of you, please don't say anything further that could be construed as confirming or denying that you gave it to me or ask any questions about it that might indicate you're not the person who gave it to me - scum have enough clues as is and I don't want them having any more.

I'm not saying who I think the 2nd scum is for the same reason. It'd help scum know who to kill, since they can't kill me and are probably panicking cuz they're just now figuring this out. Just keep in mind that as confirmed town, I may or may not have been lying about my reads to varying degrees up to this point.

VOTE: Lewarcher

Hope this is right, cuz we probably win tomorrow if it is.

[The Master Hand]

Lew's response to me makes it obvious that he wasn't the one who gave it to me, which is what I originally thought because his claimed power seems so weak and redundant and it would make more sense to me if he was hiding that long enough to give it to me, but I guess not.

Wait, you actually

have

a BPvest?

I've read between the lines a little and have a pretty good idea of who it is, but I'll save it for tomorrow because we can maybe confirm a second person if they don't get shot tonight and basically auto-win this.

IF there are 2 of them, and lew isn't the RB:
1) you'll most likely drop dead
2) you'll be RB'd

Unvote

for one second while I go figure out EXACTLY when Ms.Esurio claimed. Because I don't like the BPclaim at all.
1) When did you get the vest?
2) who gave it to you?
3) Are you told if you're shot?
4) What day did you claim?
Vote goes back on lewarcher unless esurio's iso looks like shit.

Just keep in mind that as confirmed town,

Yeeeeeaaaaahhhhhh, going to mos' def' unvote now and just look for something.

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[The Master Hand]

Wait, so why isn't esurio dead?
WHY THE HELL DID THE MAFIA KILL BUNNYLOVER OVER ESURIO CLAIMED_VIG OR LEWARCHER_1SHOTCOP_ANDGOODPLAYER?

[lewarcher82]

Lew's response to me makes it obvious that he wasn't the one who gave it to me, which is what I originally thought because his claimed power seems so weak and redundant and it would make more sense to me if he was hiding that long enough to give it to me, but I guess not.

Wait, you actually

have

a BPvest?

I've read between the lines a little and have a pretty good idea of who it is, but I'll save it for tomorrow because we can maybe confirm a second person if they don't get shot tonight and basically auto-win this.

IF there are 2 of them, and lew isn't the RB:
1) you'll most likely drop dead
2) you'll be RB'd

Unvote

for one second while I go figure out EXACTLY when Ms.Esurio claimed. Because I don't like the BPclaim at all.
1) When did you get the vest?
2) who gave it to you?
3) Are you told if you're shot?
4) What day did you claim?
Vote goes back on lewarcher unless esurio's iso looks like shit.

Just keep in mind that as confirmed town,

Yeeeeeaaaaahhhhhh, going to mos' def' unvote now and just look for something.

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

You only had to ask. If someone gave you a vest, which I doubt, it wasn't me. Apparently, if someone did, it was either kdub or Looker. Or TMH is a great actor.

town would be incredibly overpowered with: vig + cop + tracker + 1-shot flav cop + doc + joat + someone-who-gives-vests, this is why I doubt your BP-claim.

and no, I am not the roleblocker and I am not scum. I hope you know what you are doing with your wifom. Tomorrow is saturday and as predicted my activity (if any) will decrease.

I highly disapprove of the way you are handling this from your confirmed-town position, and again I suggest you all consider very well what you are doing and why.

P-EDIT: that question was asked at day start, but then everyone told me to shut the fuck up about wifom.

G'night ladies&gentlemen

[The Master Hand]

Got dragged to the recycle bin (dead):
20.

DTMaster

SSBF, Old Bird, Vanilla Townie , found with multiple high temperature energy burns all over their body Night 2

12.

Lucresia

chkflip

E_Lou_Sive, Wario, Mafia Doc, has been slashed to death Night 3.

5.

Xtoxm

hohum, Ribbon, Vanilla Townie, was found with multiple high temperature energy burns all over their body Night 3.
1. RedCoyote, Tetra, Vanilla Townie, was found incinerated with energy burns all around them.
4. Ythan, Princess Peach, doctor ,was found incinerated and surrounded by energy burns Night 4.
2. Dekes, Kirby, Jack of all Trades , was found with multiple high-energy burn marks on their body Night 4.
10. thil13, Merlon, Cop, was slashed to death Night 5.
11. GhostWriter, Luigi, Tracker, was found incinerated and surrounded by energy burns Night 5.
19.

DarlaBlueEyes

Bunnylover, Donkey Kong, Vanilla Townie, was found incinerated and surrounded by energy burns Night 6.

SSBF was mos' def' a mafia/SK kill. Perhaps both.
Lucresia was a SK kill.
RC was the mafia kill. (mafia wouldnt kill hohum ever)
hohum was a hypothetical Dekes_JOAT-Vig shot.
Ythan and Dekes were mafia and SK kills.
**SK IS NOW DEAD**
Either thil/GW was the mafia kill. Where the other kill comes from I don't know.

GRRRRRRR
I DONT LIKE ESURIO'S CLAIM. ESPECIALLY BULLETPROOFNESS.
But I don't see where the extra kill came from. No f***ing clue.

Or TMH is a great actor.

I win Cassandras, not Oscars.

ALL I WANT TO KNOW IS IF SHE LEGIT HAS A VEST OR NOT.


Also, why the hell did the mafia shoot Bunnylover over esurio_vig?
BAFFLING, WATSON.

[The Master Hand]

No wait. GW said Dekes didn't go anywhere N3.

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

[Looker]

Still a little drunk, but sober enough to see that the scumteam is lewarcher/esuriospiritus.

VOTE: lewarcher

I'm not getting into the details because I'm lazy, but suffice to say I basically copied DGB's system.

[The Master Hand]

Andrius, "slashed to death" is the esurio kill flavor (Meta Knight). In other words, it can't be the SK kill (LOLSKDEADANDWASEVILSAMUSPERSON) *facepalm*

We should get on skype and make our decision
-Toast

[Kdub]

Well, that rules out TMH+Looker as the scumteam. Hey, guess who that leaves?

Not hammering until tomorrow in case esurio has anything left to say.

[Kdub]

Umm...no. "Safe" DOES mean that you were not under suspicion, but I was saying that being in that situation may have allowed you to sacrifice Patb, who was also safe at the time. Hence, you guys could be a scum team. If I thought being safe meant you weren't scum, why wouldn't I have just said "they aren't scum?"

If we weren't under suspicion (i.e. "safe"), does me+lew make any sense at all as a scumteam given our play today? I'm not arguing with you, it's that your other head is suggesting a scumteam that, if you are being consistent in your views, should be near impossible from your point of view.

All of you, please don't say anything further that could be construed as confirming or denying that you gave it to me or ask any questions about it that might indicate you're not the person who gave it to me - scum have enough clues as is and I don't want them having any more.

1) When did you get the vest?
2) who gave it to you?
3) Are you told if you're shot?
4) What day did you claim?

Andy, I highly suggest you read the entire game before talking about stuff that was resolved several pages ago.

Still a little drunk, but sober enough to see that the scumteam is lewarcher/esuriospiritus.

Sober up some more please. There is virtually no chance that esurio is mafia.

[lewarcher82]

No wait. GW said Dekes didn't go anywhere N3.

Yo. Still people - definitely lying - insist they were convinced that chk was a joat kill, and based entire cases on the pureile idea that scum was convinced of that too. But you all appear to be completely blind.

I honestly think it's esurio's gambit + the possibility of esurio still having one shot that is keeping scum from scummy-hammering me.

@TMH: don't be ridiculous. esurio is confirmed town. Playing a poor endgame, but confirmed town.

Last call. Move your votes to kdub, please.

[jmj3000]

Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 3

Kdub

- 1 - lewarcher82 (L-2)

lewarcher82

- 2 -esuriospiritus, Looker (L-1)

Players not voting: Kdub, The Master Hand

(expired on 2011-07-17 02:30:00)

[Kdub]

I honestly think it's esurio's gambit + the possibility of esurio still having one shot that is keeping scum from scummy-hammering me.

Anyone who can count to 2 can see why this is false. You are confirmed scum.

I said I'd hammer ~24 hours from my post yesterday morning, and I'm going to be offline for the next few hours, so
VOTE: lewarcher

[esuriospiritus]

See you tomorrow.

[The Master Hand]

Andy, I highly suggest you read the entire game before talking about stuff that was resolved several pages ago

How much time do we have? I'll have alot of it tonight, so...
SORRY OK IM NOT PAYING ATTENTION AND TOAST ISNT TELLING ME ANYTHING USEFUL BESIDES "just post bitch".

Sober up some more please. There is virtually no chance that esurio is mafia.

Yo. Still people - definitely lying - insist they were convinced that chk was a joat kill, and based entire cases on the pureile idea that scum was convinced of that too. But you all appear to be completely blind.

I'm exploring the options. Face it, 'surio isn't dead, is a VIG, and you're all screaming she's 100% town. MMHMM SOMETHING DOESNT ADD UP.
Yes. I have no idea how those kills got there and I really really really don't want to believe that esurio is the vig.

YEAH THATS RIGHT NO LOOKER/ANDY. WE CAN PLAY A BIG POE GAME. IN FACT, MAYBE WE SHOULD. COULD FIND OUT IF ITS ONE SCUM OR TWO.

GRRRRAAAA I WASNOTREADYYETGUYS.

/inb4lock

[The Master Hand]

POE = process of elimination FTR

[esuriospiritus]

Stop being fucking

dense

, TMH, omg.

The bulletproof thing was a fucking gambit and a bald-faced lie and if you were paying a lick of attention you'd know to SHUT THE FUCK UP like Kdub smartly did and let me WIFOM the scum into maybe not killing me. But nooooooo.

So I'm saying this now rather than tomorrow because I'm not gonna let you fuck this up and be all "herp derp she lived she must be scum" and shit completely ignoring everything I've done all game. If that means I do die then so be it.

Team is pretty obviously Lewarcher/Looker at this point though. Lew would have freaked the fuck out more if he was town and Looker's obvscum. Your reaction is idiot!town but town nonetheless.