Mini 1523 - VisCon: Desert Kingdom [Game Over]

Bert · Post Post #1800 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:41 am

I don't know if my block went through last night

Scum probably counters the four roleblockers somehow

How else can this be balanced????

Bert · Post Post #1801 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:41 am

Why did you Unvote me?

Bert · Post Post #1802 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:18 am

My free thoughts before I enter the realm of full access again.

This is what an old classmate used to do for reasoning on the chalkboard when we would play games during precal class...

I don't have regrets about this game, although my activity and play is somehow getting worse and more careless than it was before (I didn't know that was even possible...)...so yeah, disappointing end to the game...

Elyse is scum because....she is too town to still be here (universal townread)...because I blocked DGB last night and someone still died...because this setup for town is already OP and to add on her as a doctor would be too much for 2 v. 11...because she voted me right away to begin this day

DGB is scum because...his vote on Gaiden to start yesterday was how he chose to start to lead the day...because he hasn't explained a lot of his thoughts (neither have I)...he might have somehow stopped roleblocking otherwise this setup would be so OP for town

Elyse is town because...she nailed Desp like a pro on D1 (in a 2 v. 11 setup??)....

DGB is town because...emotional reaction and threatening retirement which pulls at heartstrings...because he didn't make a kill last night if my roleblock did go through...

I was hoping Elyse would leave her vote on me so this would be over soon as I would know which of them is scum, although if DGB is scum then it's good Elyse removed her vote.

that's all I have today...be back tomorrow <3

Good luck to both of you

Bert · Post Post #1803 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:20 am

Also, no one here is a claimed VT except for DGB.

All of us are either a claimed PR (Muffin, Elyse, SSK) or in a neighborhood (Gaiden, me, Wisdom, Empking) or some kind of masonry (Garmr + Skelda, Nat + Brian)

Just one VT??? :/

Elyse, I don't see how you can think we should see each other as confscum now.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1804 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:35 am

I am the King and my PR is to send messages to the Guards.

There goes that theory ;_;

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1805 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:36 am

I think Elyse might have unvoted to keep her options open.

Bert · Post Post #1806 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:44 am

yeah I was thinking she might have unvoted to keep options open too

and dang you're the king, my bad

Bert · Post Post #1807 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:45 am

That's right, you sent me a message saying "Gaiden is scum" on Night 4, which I thought was...weird, considering Gaiden was dead by then.

Bert · Post Post #1808 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:45 am

I just wanna get this game over with...

Elyse · Post Post #1809 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:14 am

In post 1801, Bert wrote:Why did you Unvote me?

To see if you had an explanation for roleblocking DGB and not auto-voting me. I guess your roleblock being stopped is an option; if you are town then that is what happened.

Also I was a little paranoid as I always am in LyLo.

In post 1805, DrippingGoofball wrote:I think Elyse might have unvoted to keep her options open.

I think DGB is upset that I unvoted.

Seriously though, how am I "keeping my options open" when I'm asking Bert why we aren't confscum from each other? I'm trying to think rationally and not rush this.

My head is saying Bert is scum but my heart is saying it's DGB.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1810 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:35 pm

In post 1807, Bert wrote:That's right, you sent me a message saying "Gaiden is scum" on Night 4, which I thought was...weird, considering Gaiden was dead by then.

I sent the message early during the day... I don't know when the Guards received the messages. I guess they receive the messages after the lynch? Not that it matters...

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1811 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:37 pm

In post 1809, Elyse wrote:I guess your roleblock being stopped is an option; if you are town then that is what happened.

Hey Bert

Does that make sense to you?

Elyse suggesting the last scum can roleblock and send a kill? All I can think of is that she's not the doctor, but she killed Muffinz.

Bert · Post Post #1812 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:47 pm

Yeah, it makes sense. The only way for Elyse to be town is if my roleblock failed for whatever reason.

Bert · Post Post #1813 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:50 pm

In post 1809, Elyse wrote:I'm trying to think rationally and
not rush this.

Well you kinda rushed it to start Day 5 and voted me out of the gate?

Elyse · Post Post #1814 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:53 pm

Yeah that's why I unvoted.

Also if you are town Bert, wouldn't you expect scum to have some way of bypassing all four role blockers?

Bert · Post Post #1815 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:55 pm

I do, that's why I told you that I don't think we are confscum to each other because if not town is way OP (2 scum, 11 town)

Elyse · Post Post #1816 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:01 pm

Ok.

With the game at 11v2 it's even more unlikely for Desp to bus you early like he did.

Bert · Post Post #1817 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:03 pm

Well yeah, I don't get why you as scum would push for his lynch either, especially at deadline D1?

This game as a whole just hasn't made sense. If I had known it was 11 vs. 2 on when there were 5 left, I wouldn't have taken 8-9 days to vote. I've never been in a 2 vs. 11 game before.

Bert · Post Post #1818 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:04 pm

EBWOP: When there were 9 players left on the day Garmr was lynched, you two were my only solid townreads.

Elyse · Post Post #1819 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:31 pm

Me neither.

I also have to look back at you and DGB's reactions to multiball since I would assume multiball if I was scum with only one partner.

Bert · Post Post #1820 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:45 pm

Well, both of you voted Desperado.

I sheeped you D1 on the deadline wagon on Desp. I was the hammer vote during the D2 wagon. DGB put the Lynch -1 vote.

In post 1127, DrippingGoofball wrote:Whatever, you guys won't lynch scum, I'm willing to lynch a townie.

VOTE: Desperado

I think I mentioned this yesterday.

In post 823, Desperado wrote:I don't think it is. If it's multiball we are staring at 6v2v2 right now.

Think I'm gonna start from #823 since Desp brought it up.

Bert · Post Post #1821 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:48 pm

In post 984, DrippingGoofball wrote:I am the King of Lier, I send the messages.

My role PM states explicitly that "Arrynavit" is a traitorous assassin. Since Natirasha claimed this,

VOTE: Natirasha

OK, so after Desp's mentioning of multiball, DGB didn't really talk about it, but he did attack Nat for his claim. I forgot all about the traitorous assassin part. I thought Nat was scum after that traitorous assassin thing, for what that's worth.

This game is all TRAPS!!

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1822 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:51 pm

In post 1814, Elyse wrote:Yeah that's why I unvoted.

Also if you are town Bert, wouldn't you expect scum to have some way of bypassing all four role blockers?

@ Bert

That "if you are town" sounds pretty artificial because the rest of the sentence doesn't follow. In a twisted way it's like Elyse KNOWS you to be town, and she's trying to frame me as the scum.

Elyse · Post Post #1823 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:56 pm

I'm not going to make Bert consider a scenario in which he is scum.

Unless you think he'll confess.

Bert · Post Post #1824 (ISO) » Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:20 pm

DGB, this is out of left field, but do you mind me asking why you are called a Mafia Piñata?

I don't want to rush this either, but I don't want to draw this out to 15 days because I think that's overkill.

I'm thinking maybe a week tops. Hopefully 3-4 days, if I get up to speed in this game.