Micro 766 Your Grand Idea Mafia! GAME OVER

[mozamis]

shit i had forgotten about your zombie claim my bad sorry

[mozamis]

VOTE: assembles

[Archwing]

Wait cheeky was zombie. I thought uc claimed that. Ffs. Yeah tbh I'm good with assemble lynch

[mozamis]

yeah this game is as confusing as fuck lol

[mozamis]

VOTE: unvote

we should discuss hopkirks plan more before we lynch.
this is a micro, not much room for error.

[CheekyTeeky]

Maybe we should have lynched you, because your reasoning is awful.

Give me another reason for the delay start.

UC and Vax, you guys are both town so go easy. I think what's happening is that you both think the other persons reasoning is bad. It maybe. But "bad" reasoning doesnt mean scum. It often means a communication breakdown.

Scumslip. How does he know both players are town? Neither have done anything to warrant such confidence at that point. Also LAMIST reasoning. I find scum tend to formally announce their town reads early game when there is little content to analyse.

[mozamis]

ah come on, get over it. you're just omgusing.
i made a mistake, forgot your zombie claim. you had done very little scumhunting, so you looked a good bet. A big chunk of this game is trying to detach yourself from the emotions.

[CheekyTeeky]

ah come on, get over it. you're just omgusing.
i made a mistake, forgot your zombie claim. you had done very little scumhunting, so you looked a good bet. A big chunk of this game is trying to detach yourself from the emotions.

Why don't you try and give a better explanation of your TRs instead of saying they're "villagery"

Like give quotes explaining how they're AI and how you reached the conclusion they're town so early. Weird that you're assuming I don't want a reason because I have a personal vendetta lol. If I had one, you'd know. I just think you're scum. How am I supposed to believe you missed my hardclaim but you were observant enough to very confidently TR two people when you did?

[mozamis]

I've already explained why i thought they were town, i think UV asked me that. And dont be scummy about it. it's the early game, it's what i nearly always do to kick off my P.O.E, which is a pretty effective way of scumhunting. Of course i don't KNOW they are town - but if you look at Vax and UV again, you'll see they look pretty town.
if you're town, try and calm down. if you are scum - and that IS still a possibiltiy -then you go, girl! :p

[CheekyTeeky]

Eh. VOTE: mozamis

[Hopkirk]

Archwing’s letter matches so is confirmed town.
Mozamis seems experienced enough not to be making the mistakes he is. He also hasn’t changed votes twice to prove he isn’t Dexter, so he probably is Dexter.
@Mozamis
1.)

I claimed my role, then someone verified they had put that role into the game afterwards

. The chances I managed to guess correctly are effectively 0 (below 1% based on number of possible scumroles).
2.) There’s a way to

verify if I’m telling the truth or not tomorrow night

. There shouldn’t be any roles capable of autowinning if they aren’t lynched day 1, that would be excluded from the setup. Dexter also clearly can’t win without anything else, so I don’t threaten town.
Your arguments don’t make any sense given the context that the only roles in the game are ones we submitted.
There’s no disadvantage to town following me. I’ve given them a free confirmed scum lynch today, and you can reduce the 1% chance I’m lying to 0% tomorrow night.

Anyone who votes three different people in three separate votes is automatically confirmed to not be Dexter. There is no reason not to do this. Someone else verified they submitted Dexter after I claimed it was in game.
Best way to ‘scumhunt’ is to verify who is Dexter using the very simple method.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

ETA your votes don't count do they? You have 3 votes and voted for UCV twice which should have been the hammer if your votes count as 1 each.

I'm sure you have already figured it out.

[Archwing]

@hopkirk,

What happens to town when your win-con changes? I feel like following you is all fine and dandy, but do you maybe have some ulterior motive when you 'become' Dexter?

[McMenno]

Treestump/Zombie are the best things for me to kill to revert to town after the scum die.

like I said you can't target me period. it's like I'm not even in the game

@hopkirk,

What happens to town when your win-con changes? I feel like following you is all fine and dandy, but do you maybe have some ulterior motive when you 'become' Dexter?

well if he doesn't cooperate we can just lynch him so this is stupid

mozamis probably scum

[Hopkirk]

@hopkirk,

What happens to town when your win-con changes? I feel like following you is all fine and dandy, but do you maybe have some ulterior motive when you 'become' Dexter?

The best thing about Dexter is he doesn't have a regular kill, or any extra voting powers. It can't beat town.
When you see I change by investigating me, that's further confirmation that I'm the role I'm claiming- beyond the fact someone else agreed they put it into the game.
The Dexter role is searchable in the other thread too. It's all public record what I'll be- win conditions etc. You can lynch me tomorrow just as easily if I don't tell you the other scum.

[Hopkirk]

Morphling. I start as a survivor. Whenever someone dies then I take their role and alignment.
My strategy is as follows:
1.) Lynch the bulletproof scum and become it (you'll see at this point that the role can't solo the entire town).
2.) Don't kill during the night. Become town or stay as a SK if depending on who dies.
3.) Lynch the second scum. This is the stage where town could screw me if they decided to lynch me then lynch the other scum purely to screw me over.
4.) Town wins during the next night phase. I become town here.

First scum is 'Dexter Morgan', the only role in that thread who is only allowed to vote twice per day, then their vote won't keep changing. Easy to find by testing people and waiting for a votecount.

hey that's my role

McMenno is confirmed town.
He verified he submitted my role after I claimed it. There's maybe a 1% chance this would happen if I made it up.
This role is public record.
It can be further verified by cop.
After I change roles, I won't have any abilities that threaten town. The role also means I'll be back to town after a nightkill (or a lynch and n2 nightkill if scum shoots the rolecop n1).

[Assemblerotws]

Yeah, Mozamis looks like scum.
VOTE: Mozamis

[Vaxkiller]

I think I broke the game adding that role in!. Hopkirk, what post restrictions are we looking for again?

[Hopkirk]

They can only vote twice per day.
So anyone can prove they aren't Dexter by voting, making another post with a different vote, then making a third with another new vote and waiting for the votecount to update.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

They can only vote twice per day.
So anyone can prove they aren't Dexter by voting, making another post with a different vote, then making a third with another new vote and waiting for the votecount to update.

By that logic you have to wait for another vote count before that happens

[Vaxkiller]

They can only vote twice per day.
So anyone can prove they aren't Dexter by voting, making another post with a different vote, then making a third with another new vote and waiting for the votecount to update.

By that logic you have to wait for another vote count before that happens

IS this a problem?

VOTE: Elmo the azn

[Vaxkiller]

VOTE: Moz

[Vaxkiller]

VOTE: assembler

[Hopkirk]

Can’t be Dexter: Vauxkiller, Elmo, Archwing, Cheeky
Still need to test: UC, Mozamis, Assemble

[Elmo TeH AzN]

They can only vote twice per day.
So anyone can prove they aren't Dexter by voting, making another post with a different vote, then making a third with another new vote and waiting for the votecount to update.

By that logic you have to wait for another vote count before that happens

IS this a problem?

VOTE: Elmo the azn

Nevernind I understand now I'm overthinking this. I figured you wait for a vc see the vote moves and do it again