Mini 1758: Game Over

[Zulfy]

Wasnt l-1 when you posted this.

Was too

[Zulfy]

Farmers sure as hell not scum, I hammered two scum, its either you or Loki. Probs Loki.

[tictac]

That wasn't the case in our previous game. She did bus a bit, but was pretty soft about it, and only did it if there was a reason.

So . . .

Ya. Looks like she changed her MO.

I'm tempted to hammer CKD.
Not going to.
Will really take a deep deep look at all this

Wasnt l-1 when you posted this.

You didnt think about anything.

Ya he was. He did make a similar mistake in 1335, but not here.
Also didn't see evidence of thinking.

Farmers sure as hell not scum,

Agreed

I hammered two scum,

Ya. Your accuracy is downright eerie. You passed the chance to hammer pisskop, so you aren't just hammering anything that gets to L-1.
Ya pushed Elyse when she was conftown, ya said you were putting me at L-1 when yours was the only vote on me.
You are simultaneously unaware of things in the thread and 100% accurate with your hammers. It doesn't make sense at all.
Smells like informed perspective to me.

its either you or Loki. Probs Loki.

Why Loki? Why not me?

I'm thinking pisskop or Zulf. Probably Zulf.

VOTE: Zulf
L-1

[Lokiben]

I'd like to know why me too.

I misspoke when I said I was dropping the bussing theory. I'm backing off it for now, because Zulfy's behavior yesterday was very noteworthy. He's been flipflopping a ton, so his reads aren't very consistent, but the one constant has been tictac, and even his stance on tictac wasn't very consistent. Example:

SRMP, Uptoolate, Zulfy, and farmer.


would like to hear your position on tictac...and my case on him.

Curious I like your case and will hop on that wagon if it's a thing that will happen

I'm not really aware of the case on tictac.

If I've been told it, I've forgotten.

And then there's this:

Yep only reason

So what I really mean is "That is not at all it, I am voting you for your cumulative scummy actions

Context: Zulfy votes for tictac because he disagrees with tictac over whether SRMP was acting defensively. tictac asks if that was Zulfy's only reason. Zulfy gives this reply.

He talks about cumulative scummy actions as if the rest of his case is obviously right here in front of us in the thread, so he doesn't need to elaborate. But all I can find in the thread on tictac otherwise is:

Spoiler:

no help me bus camn please.

Why are you still on that? There's no point until she can reply properly.
You aren't even voting for her.

Is the extension of RVS scummy here? Also follow your own advice.

Random lynch is random lynch

If extending RVS is scummy so is this +1

tictac

VOTE: tictac

Karma be more aggressive with your push

tictac

tictac

And today the read on tictac is suddenly gone, and replaced by two new unexplained scumreads. Nearly the rest of his ISO is self-defense, or generic fluff.

And he may have hammered camn and ckd both, but that's because he was late to the party on both of those wagons. As has already been covered, both hammers were carried out rather awkwardly. He wanted to make it clear that he had reservations about both lynches as he hammered them, which is pretty contradictory, especially since neither lynch was a done deal before the hammer. It strikes me as a knee-jerk reaction for towncred.

[pisskop]

Im fine killing zulf.

But who tomorrow if he is town? An dont say me because I would have no reason to even bring up ckd.

[Lokiben]

tictac, if it comes to that.

[Performer]

VOTE COUNT 5.01

Zulfy (2): Lokiben, tictac

No vote (3): Zulfy, pisskop, a plain farmer

With 5 players alive, it takes 3/9 votes to lynch.

For deadlines & notes, please refer to this post – post 3 !

[pisskop]

vote: zulfy

[pisskop]

I agree on apf

[a plain farmer]

Hi guys. Have we lynched someone already?

If the game's not over, then use the night to look back over the game with special emphasis on interactions between living players and camn/CKD. For instance, Loki's 333 pings me. He does something I might've tried as scum: making my primary scumread someone who probably wouldn't get lynched, then FoSing my partners.

[Zulfy]

Pisskop you are so unpleasant

[Zulfy]

I agree tictac is looking bad again.

You are all welcome, by the way

[Zulfy]

Pk or tictac. Probs tictac

[Zulfy]

If youre wondering why Im hesitant on pisskop its because he is very incompetent.

No hate but just look at his meta hes bad at cohesive teambuilding.

[Zulfy]

Scum never hardbusses both partners. Once you snagged two scum just look at the interactions, one scum doesnt bus both partners, the answer is there.

[a plain farmer]

In the event I die tonight and you're in LyLo tomorrow, I'll give some thoughts on those remaining. From town to scum, I'd rank them:

pisskop
tictac
Lokiben

But I'm not too confident about this.

I don't like pisskop's hammer, and his predecessor in that slot was scummy. But pisskop hasn't given me much reason to scumread him, and I doubt players as experienced as him and CKD would, as scumpartners, put themselves together on my wagon in D4. Don't overstate these things as townreads though. Pisskop's hammer today may be scummy, but I also don't like the way Zulfy got up to L-1 in the first place.

CKD said this weird thing about tictac being sure scum if SirCakez ended up being scum, which a scumpartner might've done to try and clear him by association when Cakez flipped town. But then CKD wagoned tictac immediately at the start of D4, so I dunno. But the way their mutual scumreads on each other fizzled out on D4 pings me.

Loki has been keeping a low profile and staying off the wagons CKD and camn were on, and there's the thing I mentioned about post 333. I was in the midst of looking over him as writing this but I wanted to make sure this got out before the mod scene.

[Zulfy]

Also PK youre not that unpleasant just pissed that we didnt escape lylo.

You are a little bit tho

[pisskop]

loki is my backup choice.

If its a binary descision between tictac and loki guess where Id go?

[pisskop]

Dont apologize?

Im not mad you dont think Im charming. Im more insulted you think Im incompetent. You clearly havent seen my games to think Im some buffon.

[a plain farmer]

tictac is my big read right now. not sure what to think of tictac not hammering scakes. IF scakes flips scum, tictac NEEDS to be lynch tomorrow. Please make this happen if I get offed tonight.

This is the CKD quote on tictac I mentioned.

[Performer]

VOTE COUNT 5.02

Zulfy (3): Lokiben, tictac, pisskop

No vote (2): Zulfy, a plain farmer

With 5 players alive, it takes 3/9 votes to lynch.

For deadlines & notes, please refer to this post – post 3 !

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Day 5 lynch has been achieved on Zulfy.

“Zulfy, surely you

jest

,” his friend tictac said.
“Surely you

must

be,” his friend Lokiben repeated.
“Yes, you must be

joking

,” his friend pisskop reiterated.

They all stepped forward and stated in unison, “Are you really town? We find the truth of that to be strange.”

“But I am. I am town and there’s something wrong going on, somewhere, somehow! Stop this madness! All of you!!!”

Despite his protesting, Zulfy was hung midday.

Zulfy…

Spoiler:

was a Vanilla Townie

[Performer]

VOTE COUNT 6.00

No vote (4): tictac, a plain farmer, pisskop, Lokiben

With 4 players alive, it takes 3/4 votes to lynch.

For deadlines & notes, please refer to this post – post 3 !

[pisskop]

Before I vote for NL, is anyone a jailer, or BP, or something?

[pisskop]

lol @ weak scumz

[a plain farmer]

I've got no explanation for it.