Teleportation Mafia Universe ONE (MAFIA A WINS!)

[Fishythefish]

Day 4 Vote Count

CSL ( 1 ) Ellibereth
elvis_knits ( 0 )
evilsnail ( 0 )
starbuck ( 0 )
fishythefish ( 0 )
gayle ( 0 )
mykonian ( 1 ) spyrex
ojanen ( 0 )
Ellibereth ( 0 )
spyrex ( 2 ) mykonian fishythefish
Haylen ( 0 )
Not Voting ( 6 ) gayle ojanen starbuck evilsnail Haylen CSL
Total Votes ( 10 )

With 10 alive, 6 needed to lynch.
Deadline: March 17th 12:00 EST

@Fishy:

Show me these U1 cases.

Further, show me you doing the 'natural' thing and commenting on U2 like that.

I used "cases" to mean scumhunting generally, not specifically large things attacking one player. mykonian has done a lot of scumhunting, and I think it's genuine.

Me commenting on U2: I've not been following U2 all that avidly, but IIRC I QFT'd a post of DGB saying that Jack was very likely scum. I think other players who have commented on U2 have made similarly certain statements to myko, and have never given cases. If I was going to post about U2, I wouldn't consider posting a detailed case.

[Ojanen]

Infodump @Spyrex (Elli what do you think?) [timezones mine]:
Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:25 am: Hoopla L-1 vote

should i claim yet?

evil, fishy, elvis say he should (with fishy's comment about possibility to not cc fakeclaimer)

Why is pops dragging this out?
If we get to deadline, somebody better be willing to hammer him, with or without a claim.

I'm the teleporter.
I'll teleport CSL tonight, if you hold off this inane lynch.
If you lynch me through the claim, I suspect elvis the most of being the scum on my wagon. She's been pushing me the most "just because".
Rhinox isn't scum. Myk and fishy probably aren't. CSL probably is, because the actives dont seem that scummy.

DEADLINE:
Feb 23, 1.00 am.

Claim circa 19 hours before deadline with some dragging; from L-1 about 3 days, from "should I claim?" about 1,5.
He says he'll teleport CSL but he also says CSL scum and has his vote there.

[mykonian]

LOL. This is too hard. I'm starting to wonder if my English is rusty.
DEAR MYKONIAN.
My question is

NOT

when and why you started to think evil is scum.
My question is: Please quote the snippets and triggers that CHANGED YOUR MIND about evilsnail after you wanting to lynch him yesterday.
LOVE, OJ

nah, it is my english. Sorry.

The change is that it is absoluty impossible to lynch someone who "is going to be replaced". As you can see here. On the moment the replacement is found, the case is taken serious again.

[Ojanen]

OMG
neither evilsnail nor zoraster have talked about replacement for evilsnail.
he was active before you changed your preference to Spyrex.
just pleeeease answer the question

[mykonian]

this time it is you not understanding me (yes, that is me being unclear)

The raskol case was dead the whole day as he was going to be replaced. Lurking before made that people weren't really interested. The fact that there came a replacement makes it kosjer again to go for that lynch (that person can react, is the reasoning, though this is not really true, as it is about Raskol, in stead of spyrex)

[SpyreX]

Well hells bells I guess he's town. Or they've outplotted me.

[Haylen]

Hi Spy

You, everyone can get stuffed if they think im gonna iso people at 66 pages long. Heh :p
I'm not too keen on players who are scumhunting by looking at the other universe, we need to deal with the topic at hand first, which is the scum in

this

universe.

@ Everyone - who do you think would be the most benificial to lynch today and why?
CSL - why do you want to be teleported so badly?

[SpyreX]

CSL wants to be teleported?

And yes, this universes scum are the main issue (unless all three of you are scum then welp)

[zorastermod]

Day 4 Vote Count

CSL ( 1 ) Ellibereth
elvis_knits ( 0 )
evilsnail ( 0 )
starbuck ( 0 )
fishythefish ( 0 )
gayle ( 0 )
mykonian ( 1 ) spyrex
ojanen ( 0 )
Ellibereth ( 0 )
spyrex ( 2 ) mykonian fishythefish
Haylen ( 0 )
Not Voting ( 6 ) gayle ojanen starbuck evilsnail Haylen CSL
Total Votes ( 10 )

With 10 alive, 6 needed to lynch.
Deadline: March 17th 12:00 EST

[evilsnail]

Still here. Sorry, had a busy weekend.

[mykonian]

mod, can we have some prods?

[evilsnail]

Further, those groups were made on what the total group agrees on, meaning that fishy (evil's suspect, but towny according to the rest; ojanen, neutral for myko, town for the rest; CSL, mostly considered town, but with doubts about heavy bussing) are left out because the big majority agrees on them being likely town. The more people agree on it, the more likely it is right (there is a big amount of townies that agrees on it).

I don't think I'm suspicious of fishy any more. He's giving me way too much leeway. He has enough material to make a case on me and make it stick a few times over.

I've been rethinking this game a little, sorting out my reads into strong town reads and weak ones. At this point, I think fishy, gayle, myko, Ojanen and Elli are likely town. CSL I think is probably town too, but only on the basis of pops's behaviour. The rest I'm not so sure about.

[mykonian]

gayle ojanen starbuck

evilsnail

Haylen CSL

if you had to vote now, who would you vote and why?

[Ellibereth]

mod, can we have some prods?

QFT
Oj has good points about the times.

Unvote

At school right now, rethink later.

[Haylen]

gayle ojanen starbuck

evilsnail

Haylen CSL

if you had to vote now, who would you vote and why?

Everyone who has not answered my question.

FoS everyone who has not answered my question

>.>

[mykonian]

haha.

mine is better though, because it only asks to all the people not voting (except Snail)

[Ojanen]

CSL ace5993

evilsnail

Starbuck

fishythefish

gayle

mykonian

ojanen

SpyreX Raskol

Ellibereth

Haylen Maelyn

If I would vote right now it would be Spyrex.
Because I wasn't a fan of Raskol's early play, but for more than anything, PoE, as seen above.
SpyreX hasn't done anything tangibly scummy nor excruciatingly townish (and I'm trying to get over the fact that I'm a secret admirer of his. ) But out of people I could imagine voting (Spyrex, evil, myko) the others just have given me more pause with townish signals in the mix, although evil's slot has a more conventionally scummy relation to pops during the lynch.
Raskol's replacing out isn't scummy in itself (I saw him do that as town before) but absent buddyslots would be viable for why no apparent distancing from pops would have happened.

More in a sec.

[Starbuck]

I'm so not caught up on this game. I've had a busy weekend and now week due to military stuff. I apologize guys.

I'm not one to ask for slack in the lurking dept, but if you look at the rest of my games. You can see that I've barely posted.

Hopefully, I may be able to do some catch up at work tomorrow.

[SpyreX]

I'm running out of ways to try and explain what I see and don't like about myko.

Additionally, I'm having a hard time placing a third - with the teleporter mechanic I could see it being Rhinox or Plum butttt

[CSL]

SpyreX, because he saw myko as scum, and I fail to see why.

SpyreX, why did you think myko was scum?

[SpyreX]

Did?

No. Do.

The disparity between U2 and U1 and really, the overall play isn't inspiring. Definitely not enough to warrant not being able to get ANYONE to bite (2 scum left lockdown mode).

[Ojanen]

Spyrex, was there something else to the myko disrepancy than the statement about jack on D1 and stating that U2 scum is to be found from Hoopla wagon, not U1? I see the second point and was wondering about it, hence mentioned myko seemingly working through arguments starting from set conclusion back. But the first, yeah, myko was somewhat snappier in tone on the jack line, but do you really see his play at that time overall vaguer? Stuff like iso 16 (almost overconfident to me)?

[Haylen]

STOP IGNORING ME!

Vote Haylen

[Fishythefish]

*looks at what Haylen wants answered*

@ Everyone - who do you think would be the most benificial to lynch today and why?

For starters, certainly someone from this universe.
Within that, I think Spyrex is the most likely scum, and I can't see any other good criteria for a "beneficial lynch" atm.

[mykonian]

STOP IGNORING ME!

Vote Haylen

...

Haylen, they are answering you...