In this case I have determined that through scum slips and suspicious play that MoI is most certainly mafia. If I die night 2, don't forget this; MoI needs to hang day 3. I have compromised a neighborhood QT in order to do this, but I find it to be quite worth it.
, read the scumslip at the bottom of the page.
Lets see what he's been up to...
Right off the bat, says we have two scum teams. NOTE: I believe that MoI is in one of at least 2 scum teams :NOTE. There really isn't any reason to suspect this because he doesn't consider abilities/poison already going to hurt 'the plan', he immediately jumps to the conclusion of multi-scum teams. As MoI says later in the game, scum should know if there are multiple teams based on their numbers.
Twists' crypto's words. Crypto destroys MoIs' 'calling out' and 'quicklynch' tell, and MoI responds by 1) saying crypto is suspicious for 'appeal to wifom' (Lol, I can't make this stuff up) 2) saying crypto is suspicious for asking people to explain their votes on others. MoI isn't this bad.
Crypto impersonates MoI well as MoI, in 2 from the last point, was doing nothing more than attacking Cryptos scumhunting style. MoI wrote it off as empty rhetoric and dropped the Crypto argument very shortly after.
Says he already discussed crypto's read when asked why he bailed the conversation; but that's not true at all, MoI really only attacked his playstyle (obviously his playstyle), and made up appeal to wifom. If appeal to wifom exists, it is NOT what crypto did.
Much more likely to come from scum you say? Tell me MoI, what scum motivation is there to not know what Cognitive Dissonance is? Tell me MoI, if Crypto is "just one of those players" that believe X, then why does believe X make him scum? Oh, because then you might be able to mislynch him later.
Crypto isn't a scum read yet he said he was being scummy several times, and even voted him for a period. A period which was followed by one with little discussion with Crypto, until this proclamation. But no; MoI just thinks Crypto is bad.
So, caught in his lie MoI says that Crypto is always going to be just like scum, but he's town. I can't make this stuff up folks; MoI thinks that Crypto purposefully was trying to emulate scum play which was why he thought he was scum.
Doesn't see how warrior is scummy, perhaps they are in the same QT at night.
Wait, in this post he says that he has no evidence that Crypto is a VI and not scum. But he said that Crypto wasn't scum, just bad earlier. Contradictionsss
Oh this is a good one:
Read where he's responding to the bold in nopoints post; specifically point 2: Asking for evidence someone is not scum is horrible. But..
Magna does the same thing by asking MagisterLudi how he is town.
Also; MoI defends me a lot, which really felt like buddying to me then and now. I think he was preparing for the moment he would enlist me in the neighborhood, and try to win me over, knowing I'm a vocal player.
MoI tells Magister Ludi (in 2) that he isn't pushing scum reads by just saying "lets get this wagon going" or things similar. It's funny because later he accuses SlySly of pushing my wagon despite saying at most those things, if not less.
I'm on MoI's "no lynch under any circumstance, even to avoid NL" list; now, he did buddy me through defending me all game, but he also at many points said I was scummy for other things. I find it odd that I pop up as a top town read all of the sudden. Although it makes no sense as to why he made this list in the first place, if not to setup his eventual neighborizing of me.
That's his day 1 play, and really all we need to look at to see his awful scum play. But if you're interested in what happens day 2, I'll summarize real fast:
- Says (in a very sly and offhand way) that people should sheep him for being right about Stringer
- Twists what SlySly said to fit his conclusion
- Misreps Implosion
- Appeal to probability (I don't care if he doesn't credit this, you most certainly did do this. Saying anything X is so unlikely to happen that it didn't happen is appeal to probability. It does not matter if we are dealing with RNG or events determined by the actions of humans)
- MoI said that FC was clearly town VI, but the examples he gave me to look at did not express that clear distinction of FC being town.
- Toog sees that MoI assumes multi-scum (with this second slip, I'm sure that there are two scum teams) and MoI twists Toogs' words onto him.
MoI neighborized me, and in that QT, he scum slipped. I've recreated his post for you:
MagnaofIllusion in neighborizer QT wrote:"Well insofar as Sinestro has claimed Serial Killer I think any discussions about scum-team possibilities should be shelved until after N2 when we see more about what kills happen.
The Warriormode situation really is pretty straightforward. Is he Town or his he scum?
If Warrior is Town he did see Sinestro get visited by Stinger. Pretty straightforward.
If Warrior is Scum we have two options -
1. Warrior's scum-team took a shot at Sinestro (which seems as out there as Watching him, IMO) and Warrior was selected / chose make the fake Watch claim. Either his team has the Watch ability N1 or he's completely faking it (I think the former is much more likely in this scenario).
2. Warrior is scum who had the Watch and chose to use it in hopes of seeing a Town investigative role / killing role going after Sinestro. Very much less likely given that abilities pass but could be used to eliminate possible opposing teams via POE for Warrior's partners."
In this post, MoI assumes that Warrior is not on the same scumteam as Stringer. When he is interrogated on the subject, he deflects, and tries to twist my words and my theory to implicate me in the same fashion. Of course, it didn't work, and I quickly tore through his poor reasoning, and he only then backtracked and said "uh, I meant, I meant that those are the two options wherein warrior isnt' on stringers scumteam... did I forget to say that...?". Which is, needless to say, absolutely ridiculous.
It also is quite obvious with MoI's strong buddying of me, pointing out other scummy things I was doing all game, and then being his top town read randomly that he was planning on neighborizing me; and forgot about all the dirt he was throwing around, and how it had hit me several times.
I think it is very likely that scum have daytalk, and that MoI is mafia with Stringer, and stringer was a planned bus-to-claim-hider. It is also possible (you may find this more probable) that MoI is mafia with a second scum team. The main point here is that it looks quite likely that Warrior is not scum or is on another scum team and has a watcher ability. MoIs' flip of scum will prove this.
Sirs, I have your day 3 lynch.
