Left 4 Dead Mafia - Day 6?

[SaintKerrigan]

Oh, happy scumday btw, Dram.

[Amished]

First off:

Unvote
Vote: ReaperCharlie

Second off: I don't buy this confusion about items for a second from SK. It's pretty obvious how every item in the game would work (heck, double pistols "gave" two votes to whomever Furry voted for, for example) so any reading of the game would make that apparent. However, SK attacked bob for a BS reason; looking to me like he's throwing suspicion on something that was plainly obvious.

[ReaperCharlie]

Ugh, apparently I'm not allowed to use them on myself, but the mod has confirmed that they're used at the start of the day, thus ensuring that using my plan, the town gets the back if I die tonight. So really, there's no reason to not attempt to pull of my plan to clear myself.

Also: the mod has made it clear that they'll work on non-town players, so I will definitely be cleared by the pills working, but the person they are used on won't be.

Some people seem to have missed this post I made yesterday. Dramonic is not confirmed either way by the fact that pills worked on him. The mod was vey, very explicit about this.

Well, I admit that I missed that, but this means that you are also not confirmed as a townie then, because you could have only

pretended

to give him the pills and he could have

pretended

to receive them, when in fact they had already been long destroyed!

myself and ReaperCharlie were the two people who could have recieved the molotov cocktail. I am confirmed town. I do not have the molotov cocktail. ReaperCharlie has posted this:

Ok well, I didn't get the molotov, so... I don't know who did. I was sure that by the time I got back this weekend, that one of us would have gotten it, so... who has it?

Ergo, if I were to be able to grab the molotov... ReaperCharlie is lying and thus ReaperCharlie is scum.

Oh

hell no

you

don't

! This is complete and utter BS! You are in

no way

confirmed as a townie! dramonic could be lying about 'receiving' the pills, because he was scared about being caught as scum if you 'gave' him the pills! I don't know if you are both scum or both innocent or one of each, but if me and you are definitely the only ones who could have gotten the molotov, and I DIDN'T GET IT, then YOU are the one lying!

At first, I thought perhaps Starbuck could have received it, but if that's not the case, then I KNOW you are scum. Of COURSE scum would say they didn't get it, that way they wouldn't have to prove they had it!

And if you and dramonic are on the same scumteam, this would make even MORE sense! dramonic jumps on me right after you post saying that? Nobody better believe that crap, I swear. No wonder you were so willing to 'give' the pills to dramonic, because you knew he'd play along!

Vote: DizzyIzzy13

HoS: dramonic

[almightybob]

The fact that you had to ask this question boggles me.

Why? I was confused as to what Izzy was asking. It seemed like she was asking a pointless question to me.
And anyway, how is it scummy? There's nothing there to merit a vote.


SK: Read the goddamn thread before throwing votes out. Christ.

Oh hell no you don't! This is complete and utter BS! You are in no way confirmed as a townie! dramonic could be lying about 'receiving' the pills

No, he couldn't. We tested it. Izzy's claimed effect worked, therefore Izzy must be Town. Read the thread, scum.

Unvote, vote: ReaperCharlie

[dramonic]

Well, I admit that I missed that, but this means that you are also not confirmed as a townie then, because you could have only

pretended

to give him the pills and he could have

pretended

to receive them, when in fact they had already been long destroyed!

Yeah erm, no.
We tested against that happening, see?
We voted me to what would have been a lynch without the pills.
I'd be dead if she was scum

You can give up now.
Just self-vote and end your misery.

[SaintKerrigan]

Second off: I don't buy this confusion about items for a second from SK.

As previously stated, I was not aware that someone else had given the pills to Dramonic. I thought he had taken them himself.

[dramonic]

the debacle yesterday was really not enough to tip you off?

[Amished]

@SK: Exactly what dram said. You replaced in yesterday, how else would we have confirmed anybody by using the items? We talked about all of that including lists pretty much until the deadline. Scumz not following along? I notice that you pretty much haven't talked about confirmed scum Reaper until the obvious slip just now.

[SaintKerrigan]

@ Amished: Shouldn't my level of activity be a clue that I haven't been following this game as closely as the rest of you? Maybe that'll help you figure out why I haven't talked about Reaper until his scumslip.

[Amished]

Well, I expect either

Follow along from where you replace in

and/or

Fully catch up

and/or

ISO a couple high profile targets

from a town replacement. It seemed like you were going to do the 2nd while doing the first. At the very least you could've done the first as there wasn't that much going on.

[SaintKerrigan]

I was also V/LA for the past week, FYI. Gone for the weekend as well due to unforseen events. I'm not saying I'll never try to catch up. But I'm trying to get into the thick of things quicker so I don't get bogged with catch-up reading, and thereby lower my interest/posting rate in this game.

[Amished]

Townies still take a pretty good look at the rules. Especially for theme games. Item dropping is pretty hard to miss if you even remotely glanced at the first post of the game.

[SaintKerrigan]

Item dropping is pretty hard to miss if you even remotely glanced at the first post of the game.

Wait, what?

[dramonic]

Bicker...

Bicker Bicker!

Bicker?

Bick-Bicker!

[Amished]

1) Townies typically want to get every advantage from the game
2) Items dropping are an advantage
2a) Being clear on the rules helps (i.e. can give you an advantage)
3) The rules about the items are in the first post of the game.
4) You have no freaking clue how items work
5) Therefore, you're not town as you didn't need to look at how items work (because you're scum); and haven't read the FIRST POST OF THE GAME

Especially when you've made such gems of posts like:

Just so it's out there, I've never played L4D before, and the reason I'm here is because I cross-replaced with Reck. This is also my first large Theme (not including my short stint in SWN II), so it may take me a little time to get a grasp on the mechanics of this game.

If anyone would like to give me a brief summary of the current game status,

along with any relevant info regarding items and such

, I'd really appreciate that.

Other than that, I'll be chugging my way through the read.

So you "know" about items but didn't want to know the rules so that you could skate by later if you were questioned about them and you even

Grab: Defibrillator.

-snip-.

tried to grab an item.

@dram: I'm onto something here, add to it or shush! :glare:

[dramonic]

bicker?

[Amished]

bicker?

Finding scumz

[SaintKerrigan]

@ Amished: I have a grasp on how items work. I have shown this in both the quotes you mentioned as well as my description in Post #1540. Where are you getting the idea that I have no clue how items work?

[almightybob]

Mm. I have replaced into large threads, so I can sort of sympathise with SK here. I think Amished is making a bit of a mountain from a molehill.

On the other hand, throwing out a vote when you clearly have no grasp of the current state of play, and additionally are perfectly aware that you haven't been keeping up, is not acceptable.

[Amished]

@ Amished: I have a grasp on how items work. I have shown this in both the quotes you mentioned as well as my description in Post #1540. Where are you getting the idea that I have no clue how items work?

The test tells us nothing about dramonic's alignment though.

Vote: Almightybob.

If Dramonic was scum, the pills would've been destroyed, and thus he would've been lynched. This sounds like scum trying to unconfirm a confirmed.

[SaintKerrigan]

@ Amished: That was from when I thought Dramonic used the pills on himself. I was not aware that someone else had used the pills on Dramonic.

@ Almightybob: In my mind, the best way to get into the thick of it is to find a reason to vote someone and see what happens. So far, it's worked beautifully.

[Amished]

@ SK: So... what did you think we talked about with regards to Dizzy (and SPS, to an effect) yesterday?

[SaintKerrigan]

@ SK: So... what did you think we talked about with regards to Dizzy (and SPS, to an effect) yesterday?

I don't recall having read that part yet. If you can give me a post number(s) for reference, I'll try to provide an answer.

[DizzyIzzyB13]

Unvote: Almightybob.

I missed the part where someone else was using the pills on Dramonic. In that case, Dram is not confirmed town.

Dizzy, why are you confirmed town? If you are confirmed town, then I agree with you on your logic regarding Reaperscum. In which case, why aren't you voting Reaper?

Well, since the question I asked wasn't entirely clear, as per Bob's misunderstanding, I'd like to hear from the mod that they understood what I asked to mean what I intended it to mean.

[DizzyIzzyB13]

Plus... until he responded, it wass perfectly possible that either he hadn't yet recieved the molotov and the mod gave it to him after that post, or was attempting to not claim ownership of it until he could use it to clear himself tomorrow. As it is, that response makes me think he's more likely to be scum. Still...

Mod: For absolute clarity, is it possible for a player to acquire more than one item?

Yes.