Left 4 Dead Mafia - Day 6?

[xRECKONERx]

The Second Vote Count of Day Four

dramonic (5):

Charlie, DizzyIzzyB13, Starbuck, dramonic, Amished,

bv310 (1):

crypto

Not Voting (5):

ReaperCharlie, almightybob, jmj3000, bv310, SaintKerrigan

[Charlie]

Good. We have a confirmed. Now let's lynch Amished.

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vote: Amished

[Charlie]

Oh noes!

unvote
vote: Amished

[DizzyIzzyB13]

Good.

unvote

Mod: I would liike a rule clarification - if a player has one item, can they claim another?

[Charlie]

I didn't notice this earlier and failed to address it:

If we give scum the pills, we put them at lynch-1 and then hammer. If the hammer kills them, they're scum (because items are destroyed when scum get them).

I'm not sure if this true. Dizzy, can you please confirm the validity of the above quote?

[almightybob]

Okay, Izzy is Town.

The test tells us nothing about dramonic's alignment though. I'm not sure why RC is trying to suggest that we could possibly confirm dramonic with this.

We can also confirm another Townie.
Somebody shot SPS as well as one of the scum teams killing him, so if only one person claims to have done it, they must be Town - presumably they used the shotgun. If a scum counterclaims, we lynch them both for a guaranteed scum lynch.

[xRECKONERx]

Good.

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Mod: I would liike a rule clarification - if a player has one item, can they claim another?

Yes.

[almightybob]

Wait, did you mean claim as in "I claim that I have the Bile" or as in "Grab: Bile"? As it stands, the question seems to ask "can players fakeclaim items" which is obviously a yes.

[Starbuck]

Wait, did you mean claim as in "I claim that I have the Bile" or as in "Grab: Bile"? As it stands, the question seems to ask "can players fakeclaim items" which is obviously a yes.

The fact that you had to ask this question boggles me.

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Vote: almightybob

[Charlie]

We can also confirm another Townie.
Somebody shot SPS as well as one of the scum teams killing him, so if only one person claims to have done it, they must be Town - presumably they used the shotgun. If a scum counterclaims, we lynch them both for a guaranteed scum lynch.

Yes, I've pointed that out already!

So, can we please lynch either Amished, dramonic, or almightybob now?

[SaintKerrigan]

The test tells us nothing about dramonic's alignment though.

Vote: Almightybob.

If Dramonic was scum, the pills would've been destroyed, and thus he would've been lynched. This sounds like scum trying to unconfirm a confirmed.

[Charlie]

SaintKerrigan, we can't make that assumption. You're viewing the pills as an item still; I'm thinking it is more of an effect of the item. Dizzy should be able to clear things up. Or the mod.

[SaintKerrigan]

SaintKerrigan, we can't make that assumption. You're viewing the pills as an item still; I'm thinking it is more of an effect of the item. Dizzy should be able to clear things up. Or the mod.

But if scum destroys the item in the first place, then scum shouldn't experience the effects of the item.

[Charlie]

Fail.

[dramonic]

SaintKerrigan, we can't make that assumption. You're viewing the pills as an item still; I'm thinking it is more of an effect of the item. Dizzy should be able to clear things up. Or the mod.

But if scum destroys the item in the first place, then scum shouldn't experience the effects of the item.

Using that logic we can assume if town uses the shotgun on scum the scum won't die. <<

[SaintKerrigan]

SaintKerrigan, we can't make that assumption. You're viewing the pills as an item still; I'm thinking it is more of an effect of the item. Dizzy should be able to clear things up. Or the mod.

But if scum destroys the item in the first place, then scum shouldn't experience the effects of the item.

Using that logic we can assume if town uses the shotgun on scum the scum won't die. <<

Um, excuse me? Scum don't benefit from the item's effects because the item is destroyed, thus the item can't produce the effect. Townie shooting a scum is the townie using his item's effect on the scum. Because the item is still in play, the effect is still in...well, effect.

[ReaperCharlie]

I didn't notice this earlier and failed to address it:

If we give scum the pills, we put them at lynch-1 and then hammer. If the hammer kills them, they're scum (because items are destroyed when scum get them).

I'm not sure if this true. Dizzy, can you please confirm the validity of the above quote?

Dizzy wouldn't be more able than

anyone else

to confirm the above unless

she was scum

. Which means

you

must not have read the OP where it

plainly states

, no wait,

USED TO plainly state

the following:

GAME-SPECIFIC RULES:

1.

ITEM-GRABBING:

At varying times throughout the game, a number of items will be up for grabs. If you want to go for the item, type

Grab: ITEMNAME

. 25% of the player-list can do this, and they will be eligible to receive the item. Those names will be randomized on random.org, and one of the people on the list will receive the item.

2.

SCUM ITEM-GRABBING:

If scum are to grab the item in question, they will secretly destroy the item and remove it from play. Town will NOT be notified that the item has been destroyed, they will only be notified that it is up for grabs.

3.

ITEM USE:

Items grant night actions to the town recipients. A player who receives an item will keep that ability for the remainder of the game. Should that player die before using their ability, the item will re-enter the game up for grabs again. If the player uses that item even once before dying, the item will expire upon their death.

4.

LIST OF ITEMS:

These are the items that could potentially come into play during the game: flashlight, medkit, pipe bomb, shotgun, boomer bile, and defibrillator. All of these items have pro-town benefits.

Mod:

Will you publicly announce who gets which item?

Will a power role be able to both use an item and their power at night?

For some reason, the OP no longer has that part in it... I don't know why.
But you can

still

clearly see the replies and quotes relating to this subject (and the mod's answers) in posts

SIX

,

SEVEN

, and

TEN

.

@mod: Why was that part removed from the OP?

I haven't the foggiest. Blame Kise.

[ReaperCharlie]

The test tells us nothing about dramonic's alignment though.

Vote: Almightybob.

If Dramonic was scum, the pills would've been destroyed, and thus he would've been lynched. This sounds like scum trying to unconfirm a confirmed.

Wait, did you mean claim as in "I claim that I have the Bile" or as in "Grab: Bile"? As it stands, the question seems to ask "can players fakeclaim items" which is obviously a yes.

The fact that you had to ask this question boggles me.

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Vote: almightybob

Agreed on both points.

Vote: almightybob.

[DizzyIzzyB13]

Ugh, apparently I'm not allowed to use them on myself, but the mod has confirmed that they're used at the start of the day, thus ensuring that using my plan, the town gets the back if I die tonight. So really, there's no reason to not attempt to pull of my plan to clear myself.

Also: the mod has made it clear that they'll work on non-town players, so I will definitely be cleared by the pills working, but the person they are used on won't be.

Some people seem to have missed this post I made yesterday. Dramonic is not confirmed either way by the fact that pills worked on him. The mod was vey, very explicit about this.

[DizzyIzzyB13]

Good.

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Mod: I would liike a rule clarification - if a player has one item, can they claim another?

Yes.

Since almightybob was confused... I meant to ask if a player has an item, are they allowed to acquire another. For example, I have the pills. I attempted to grab the Molotov. Would I be eligible to recieve the Molotov cocktail?

I ask this because if I am eligible, than myself and ReaperCharlie were the two people who could have recieved the molotov cocktail. I am confirmed town. I do not have the molotov cocktail. ReaperCharlie has posted this:

Ok well, I didn't get the molotov, so... I don't know who did. I was sure that by the time I got back this weekend, that one of us would have gotten it, so... who has it?

Ergo, if I were to be able to grab the molotov... ReaperCharlie is lying and thus ReaperCharlie is scum.

[SaintKerrigan]

Unvote: Almightybob.

I missed the part where someone else was using the pills on Dramonic. In that case, Dram is not confirmed town.

Dizzy, why are you confirmed town? If you are confirmed town, then I agree with you on your logic regarding Reaperscum. In which case, why aren't you voting Reaper?

[Starbuck]

As it stands, I did not receive the Molotov cocktail.

[SaintKerrigan]

Dizzy, why are you confirmed town?

Nvm, you're the one who gave Dramonic the pills. Doh!

Vote: ReaperCharlie.

My inquiry as to why you aren't voting Reaper still stands, though.

[dramonic]

SK: Please try to read the game completely before commenting randomly -_-

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Vote: ReaperCharlie

Yeah for caught scum. Nice catch Izzy ;D

[SaintKerrigan]

SK: Please try to read the game completely before commenting randomly -_-

I tried that. Trying to slug my way completely through this game wound up with me not talking about stuff at all and still being far behind. So I said "what the hell" and decided to wing it.