Open 646 - Semi Nightless - Game Over (D6)

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Then why did you suggest it in the first place?

Because I'm conflicted about it? I'd be much more assertive about the townbloc strategy if I was sure about letting that one be it.

I feel safest townreading those five people, but I feel that if we can't get Transcend to townread Luna then it won't work out. I want to hear want Transcend has to say.

[Tenshii]

@Giga Where did your read on me flop?

[gigabyteTroubadour]

@Giga Where did your read on me flop?

Didn't really flop so much as weaken. When I realized that I had zilch on a scumbuddy for Karnos and Thor pointed out that your activity surrounded defending Karnos and trying to push a counterwagon I got paranoid.

[Tenshii]

Atm, I feel like we should either lynch me or Phantom today.

[Luna Fox]

Atm, I feel like we should either lynch me or Phantom today.

Why you?

[Tenshii]

Hypothetically, Phantom stays alive today. I don't want to have to keep pushing Phantom the next day, or after that, etc. I 100% don't understand the purpose of playing with a slot that's effectively dead.

Also are we allowed to play the mod? Like get reads based off of mod activity?

[Luna Fox]

Also are we allowed to play the mod? Like get reads based off of mod activity?

What?

[Tenshii]

Idk what the term is actually called. But it's basically where you make reads based off of what the game mod does.

[Luna Fox]

I've never heard of such a thing...
The closest thing is setup spec due to mod meta, but that's meaningless in mountainous/open

[mhsmith0]

I'd advise you to be cautious about what you publicly read wrt mod activity, some mods don't care some care a lot. And to be VERY careful about anything which directly touches on private mod communications.

[Transcend]

Okay guys hi I'm home.

What I wanted to say is I misread scum!karnos two times in a fucking row and I think he's a good player. http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=67000 as seen here I had him as hard town this game (it just finished I didn't know that he flipped scum til just now). I think that if scum bussed him they made a colossal mistake because he's a really good scum and he fooled me twice.

With that said, since I've misread him twice I'm going to back down a little bit from my hard Luna Fox scum-read a little bit. This bloc that Giga has I'll actually join but I'm going to disband if we haven't lynched scum in

two (2) days.

Doing the math that's the day before LYLO.

ML = 8
NK = 7
ML = 6
NK = 5
ML = 4
NK = 3

I do have other candidates outside of the bloc particularly Rosske and MHSmith. I will also re-iso PhantomCobalt and I guess Tenshii. I'm basically sleeping with one eye open. Anyways, let's get the ball rollin'.

VOTE: Rosske

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Thank you, Transcend.

VOTE: Rosske

[gigabyteTroubadour]

As far as I'm concerned Thor, Giga, Smith, and Luna are all exrtremely unlikely to be scum because of Karnos's basic interactions with them.
Honestly I think KTS is Town adn PC is the most likely person to be Karnos's partner because of this interaction they had.

VOTE: karnos for being the first one to post after my introduction!

How rude. I haven't done a VC recently, I hope that wasn't hammer.

Hello PC.

Just looking at it, it's so casual compared to how Karnos interacted with out people in the begining.
Not to mention it's a pretty light hearted accusation from PC and dropped soon after. And Karnos's responce wasn't even serious either.

Of course PC also has Karnos as top Town as well as Luna and Giga as top scum.
VOTE: PC
I'm aware no one is voting for him, but I don't care when he's the most likely person to be scum in my eyes.

VOTE: PhantomCobalt

Actually, I want to lynch this because the scumread of Tenshii (note that I am not scumreading him) is based entirely on the fact that he pushed a counterwagon to Karnos. But we don't know the alignment of the counterwagonnee, so this should be our first lynch, no questions asked.

Rosske is not bad for the next lynch though, smith had a good post in his ISO that was intended for KTS but it also applies to Rosske. I'll quote it in a sec.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

VC Day 1 - 3

karnos L-3 - Io, Thor665, gigabyte
Thor665 L-3 - Killthestory, Transcend, Rosske
Io L-5 - karnos

(expired on 2016-07-29 16:30:00)

Fun question: why was scum!karnos not on the Thor counter wagon here? The lazy answer is Thor is his buddy. The more plausible answer is one of:

1) karnos buddy already on Thor wagon, dont want to push together
2) karnos didn't want to active push the Thor mislynch wagon, wanted to park his vote elsewhere while continuing his back and forth

^ this also can apply to Rosske, it was meant for KTS

[Transcend]

no.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

no.

damn it you're right

VOTE: Rosske

please just read his iso and tell me it doesn't reek like scum.

this is the coasting wolf we've been looking for all game.

(also since tojam is not modding any more is the no cursing rule still in effect...?)

[Transcend]

i'm going to curse if llama tells me not to then i won't.

[Rosske]

VOTE: Transcend


I know my alignment. Transcend is active lurking, discrediting and manipulating information.

[Tenshii]

Will post thoughts when i get home regarding the bloc and something else that recently just occurred.

So what was this then?

[Tenshii]

With that said, since I've misread him twice I'm going to back down a little bit from my hard Luna Fox scum-read a little bit. This bloc that Giga has I'll actually join but I'm going to disband if we haven't lynched scum in two (2) days.

Is there a reason you plan on abandoning the bloc at F5?

Also I do not understand at all why Rosske > Phantom

[Tenshii]

I dunno if I'm just retarded or if there's some godlike reason we should be keeping Phantom, the most obvious fucking townie in the universe, around.

Cursing feels great.

[Transcend]

What on earth

Anyways, I'm giving lf botd because my reads have been bad as of late. But I WILL NOT give it to her all game. Hence dissolution at f5.

Pc isn't exactly obv town but i have better suspicions on luna Ross and smith.

[Luna Fox]

Transcend is active lurking

Uh what.

[Tenshii]

Anyways, I'm giving lf botd because my reads have been bad as of late. But I WILL NOT give it to her all game. Hence dissolution at f5.

Pc isn't exactly obv town but i have better suspicions on luna Ross and smith.

I don't understand where you stand at all. Are you saying you want a lynch order of Ross at F9 > Smith at F7 > Luna at F5? So then where's the PC lynch? Do you plan on taking PC to F3?

[Thor665]

@Mod - we need a replace for PC, he is far past reasonable prod range, and is active posting as an alt while ignoring this game, that is uncool to all of us.

Atm, I feel like we should either lynch me or Phantom today.

Don't disagree - are you voting Phantom right now? Because I feel like you're not, and then this comment looks weird.

Actually, I want to lynch this because the scumread of Tenshii (note that I am not scumreading him) is based entirely on the fact that he pushed a counterwagon to Karnos. But we don't know the alignment of the counterwagonnee, so this should be our first lynch, no questions asked.

That logic is silly.

I know my alignment. Transcend is active lurking, discrediting and manipulating information.

How is Transcend active lurking or manipulating?