Board Games Mafia -- Game Over!

[Glork]

Disappearing from the site for more than a full week without prior notice was cause for replacement. The replacement stands as is.

-Glork

[CrashTextDummie]

I've read through the game. Initial thoughts:

DoS is the lynch for today, no doubt.

I dislike both masons. Here's a question for both of them:
IH - based on your nightly discussion with Zindaras (and his in-thread behavior), how high do you think the chance is of him being scum?
Zindaras - based on your nightly discussion with IH (and his in-thread behavior), how high do you think the chance is of him being scum?

Both his nightkill targets make sense from a town perspective, and little sense form an SK perspective, so I believe Nightfall to be a vig.

I had a feeling Ectomancer was town even before he claimed, and seeing as claiming cop when he did makes little to no sense if he were scum, I feel very good about him. Jury's out on his sanity (he's guaranteed not insane, though).

I was suspicious of Shadowlurker in the early goings, but I am not suspicious of Thok. It would be a gambit of epic proportions if he and Fritz were scum together.

HackerHuck and Sefer are the remaining claimed vanillas, and I think it's a good bet that one of them is scum. HH is the more likely candidate, because of these simple facts:
1. Sefer was investigated innocent
2. Sefer did not kill on nights 1 & 3
3. Sefer did not roleblock on nights 1 & 3

This does not eliminate the possibility of Sefer-scum, but it makes it pretty unlikely in my mind. I also think he has played this day in a reasonably pro-town fashion.

My guess for scum: DoS, HH, one of the masons

I'm willing to clarify and answer questions, although my time is rather limited at the moment.

[Twito]

Go fuck yourself.

[Twito]

I received the prod 13th I answered it 18th. That's so NOT a week.

[IH]

What do I think of Zindy? Extremely unsure. Especially since I only have one log saved, and thats from the night after BM was lynched. (I think it was night 2, because i mentioned at the end Day 3 had started)

I don't like the defense of Battlemage at the very beginning of his posts. (To be fair, he could be defending a newbie)

I don't like how he discussed breadcrumbing the night before, as he specifically asked me "Do you think we should breadcrumb?" We then discussed how we were going to, to risk outing ourselves. He then came right out and claimed. I was annoyed at the moment, but really haven't thought about it. (This could also be irrelevant, as I know I have that line in my PM)

When we were discussing scum bussing BM, I also mentioned DoS and Thesp, but he only acknowledged Sefer in thread.

To be honest it's something I've been nervous of the whole game, but I'm really not sure at all. I really wish I had the night 1 convo saved, and i don't have one from night 3.

[Thok]

@CTD-you only mentioned your suspicions of Fritzler with respect to his claimed connection to me. What do you think of the possibility of Fritzler trying a gambit on his own (i.e. the possibility that I'm town and Fritz is scum)?

[Thok]

Also DOS should be back from his gaming convention soon. Even if he is likely scum (heck especially if he is scum) we should try to get thoughts out of him about what he thinks of the game.

[Zindaras]

In Night 1 we mostly discussed how I was catching up to the game, and I sent him the big post I posted early Day 2 for if I died. Night 2 and 3 my memory isn't as good on, though I know we discussed breadcrumbing, but I don't think we ever came to a conclusion on what to do with that.

I'm 90% sure IH is town. His posting in-game feels good to me (and IH tends to get caught as scum a lot).

[CrashTextDummie]

@CTD-you only mentioned your suspicions of Fritzler with respect to his claimed connection to me. What do you think of the possibility of Fritzler trying a gambit on his own (i.e. the possibility that I'm town and Fritz is scum)?

Thanks for reminding me, I have a couple of notes on him.

What bothers me a bit about his claim is that he supposedly was without a win-condition for 2 days, which strikes me as odd from a game design standpoint. His name-claim (Diplomacy) is the one that makes the most sense to me for a scum roleblocker. I think there's a reasonable possibility that Fritzler-scum came up with this fake-claim during Night 1, which would explain why he didn't do the whole "I don't have a win-condition so I don't care" shtick on Day 1 (he didn't vote

at all

during D2).

As for in-game behavior, I have 2 notes that could point to him being scum:
1. He didn't join the Battle Mage wagon on D1, but was a part of both the WldHrtCgd08 wagon and the Livingod wagon.
2. He FoSes DragonsofSummer in Post 80, which could be significant if DoS turns up scum. Feels like early distancing.

I'd lynch him over one of the masons.

[Nightfall]

Sorry, Thok, How did you first find out Fritz's "game" name again?
Was it in your pm? or did Fritz tell it to you?

@ CTD - Are you of the thought that if Fritz is scum he is still telling the truth about being "Diplomacy"?

[CrashTextDummie]

I see no connection between Settlers of Catan and Backgammon, so I currently don't see a reason for scum to fake-claim names, no.

Of course, it's possible that if Fritz is scum, he claimed the wrong game to fit the rest of his claim, but speculating on this is moot. The fact that Diplomacy would fit for a Roleblocker is not the primary reason I think he could be scum anyway.

[Thok]

Sorry, Thok, How did you first find out Fritz's "game" name again?
Was it in your pm? or did Fritz tell it to you?

What? I learned about Fritz's game name the same way you did, by seeing him post it in the thread.

[Twito]

From: Glork
To: Twito
Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 6:01 am
Subject: Board Games Mafia Role (Confirm by PM) Quote message
Chutes and Ladders -- Blocker/Booster
You're Chutes and Ladders, the classic racing board game. Each night, you may use a Chute or a Ladder to roleblock or boost (respectively) one player of your choice. The effect your boost (or motivation) will have depends on what role ability (if any) your target has. Regardless of which action you take, your target will not be told whether they have had their action altered in any way. You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

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Yepyep. Hate ya Glork.

[Twito]

Sorry to the rest of you.

[Zindaras]

That was unnecessary to say the least.

[Twito]

I guess it might have been. Then again I wasn't really given an option. I though the action taken was unfair and I wasn't listened nor answered when bringing this up.

[CrashTextDummie]

I hope you get fucking banned for this.

Thanks a bunch for wasting my time.

[Twito]

I hope not.

[Zindaras]

I guess it might have been. Then again I wasn't really given an option. I though the action taken was unfair and I wasn't listened nor answered when bringing this up.

Given an option? How about not ruining this game? How about not ruining Suicide Bombers as well? You're just trying to get your revenge this way.

If you felt the action was unfair, then you should've gone to mith or any of the List Mods. Just trying to get back at Glork is no way to behave.

[Twito]

Thinking of it now you are absolutely right. I did act without fully thinking it through and doing this was wrong from me. I should have gone to Mith. Sorry. And I mean it. I just couldn't realize the option of going to Mith.

However it does not completely ruin the game as it's basically the than if I had been mod-killed.

[Twito]

My problems with Glork shouldn't affect the rest of you I just couldn't think of another option to deal with it.
I hope you can go on with the game nevertheless.

[Zindaras]

It's really no fair at all to CTD. It probably took him a lot of time to read this entire game. And now you're just killing him off.

[Twito]

That really must be frustrating and I apologize.
But I didn't feel like what Glork did was fair to me but I do understand that doesn't give me the right to do this to CTD however I've also put a lot of time to this game. Probably much more than he has.

[Thok]

That really must be frustrating and I apologize.
But I didn't feel like what Glork did was fair to me but I do understand that doesn't give me the right to do this to CTD however I've also put a lot of time to this game. Probably much more than he has.

Twito, please stop posting in this game, please stop acting like a 9 year old brat, and please stop claiming you are the victim here.

[Thok]

As a side note, can we get a prod on DOS?