Scum Are Winning Large Themes More Then Town

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Post Post #150 (ISO) » Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:46 am

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I vetoed her as an early lynch to avoid toxicity but I created multiple higher priority town pairings and told everyone to kill Gamma and all that was ignored.
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Post Post #151 (ISO) » Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:47 am

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Post Post #152 (ISO) » Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:55 am

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like legit

your wording gets so domineering at the worst possible times that it gives very bad impressions and damages your credibility before you reach a point where you need it to get anything done

like if you had actually tried to just get people to focus on something or somebody else rather than just shutting the conversation down completely, it's likely that basically everyone would have agreed and moved on, but I got the hard-veto impression from how you went about it

the way you worded the ordering in baton pass also gave me closer to that impression and it wasn't corrected when I prodded at it

it's fucking bizarre that you have this problem because I have never once seen you make the same mistake in any of your scumgames
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Post Post #153 (ISO) » Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:57 am

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If you're implying that I'm making up that read then feel free to read my first lost in dead thread.

Otherwise it's a lot less frustrating being scum and not feeling like people on my own faction are working against me so it's a lot easier to be charismatic and make people want to listen
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Post Post #154 (ISO) » Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:59 am

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I'm not implying anything other than what I said
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Post Post #155 (ISO) » Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:00 am

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As scum town are my enemies so I don't feel any sort of obligation to have them help me and if they ignore me and do town helping things it's me who suffers. That motivates me to be convincing and whatever. As town when people I feel like are town are being gigantic sticks in the mud it pisses me off and now if they ignore me and i lose as a result they lose too. So it's far less motivating.
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Post Post #156 (ISO) » Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:22 am

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Uhhhhh

Idk how to word my response so that its sensical so I'll leave it at just your word choice and phrasing is the single biggest reason I read you wrong in virtually every game and get really upset in all our TvT games and that the level of resistance you get game after game is likely related to this

I could probably find examples in virtually every game we've played together but the two examples from earlier are basically what happens in all our TvT games from my end (outside of shit like fallout where I had you pegged as town on page 2 or 3)
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Post Post #157 (ISO) » Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:22 am

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And yeah I know you don't respect my play enough to accept it as criticism

I'm saying it anyways
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Post Post #158 (ISO) » Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:03 am

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Ank, are you sure it's RC's attitude and not your (and others) ego that stops cooperation?
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Post Post #159 (ISO) » Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:11 am

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I think following RC is actually the best way to catch him
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Post Post #160 (ISO) » Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:35 am

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In post 158, Ramcius wrote:Ank, are you sure it's RC's attitude and not your (and others) ego that stops cooperation?
That's a very significant factor, yes

I've had several TvT games with RC where this doesn't happen, and generally it's when I don't get antagonized; there are two games from this year where we were both town and I was specifically trying to work with him

I don't have a problem playing support, but I'm wired against being able to tolerate being directly shut down like that and it makes me push back whether it's reasonable or not
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Post Post #161 (ISO) » Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:46 am

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I just want to see the world burn so that's why I play with RC.
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Post Post #162 (ISO) » Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:36 pm

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In post 144, RadiantCowbells wrote:Why does Nancy feel the need to bring up she won 2 scum games versus me

Think about it for a moment
Why wouldn’t I? Did you read Ramcius’ post?
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Post Post #163 (ISO) » Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:37 pm

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In post 145, RadiantCowbells wrote:Like I'm sorry but I wouldn't need to bring stuff like that up if everyone else didn't feel the need to bring whatever they can up to either lift themselves up at my expense or just knock me down a peg in general.
That isn’t at all the reason I posted that. :/
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Post Post #164 (ISO) » Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:40 pm

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In post 137, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 136, Ramcius wrote:I agree, but with 1 exception, you don't want to be scum, when RC is town :lol:
Yeah, you always want to be the same alignment as RC. However, I won in two games as scum when he was town.
@RC, are you seriously reading this as some kind of diss? Like my God, we talk so much and you still don’t really have a clue who I am, if this is what you truly believe. I’m legit hurt that you think I would gratuitously post this for the sake of hurting you. :/
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Post Post #165 (ISO) » Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:02 pm

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In post 162, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 144, RadiantCowbells wrote:Why does Nancy feel the need to bring up she won 2 scum games versus me

Think about it for a moment
Why wouldn’t I? Did you read Ramcius’ post?
Nancy, not everyone equate fun in the game with winning
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Post Post #166 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:52 am

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In post 165, Ramcius wrote:
In post 162, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 144, RadiantCowbells wrote:Why does Nancy feel the need to bring up she won 2 scum games versus me

Think about it for a moment
Why wouldn’t I? Did you read Ramcius’ post?
Nancy, not everyone equate fun in the game with winning
Do you have something against winning? Charlie Sheen would not be at all happy about that. :P
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Post Post #167 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:33 am

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In post 166, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 165, Ramcius wrote:
In post 162, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 144, RadiantCowbells wrote:Why does Nancy feel the need to bring up she won 2 scum games versus me

Think about it for a moment
Why wouldn’t I? Did you read Ramcius’ post?
Nancy, not everyone equate fun in the game with winning
Do you have something against winning? Charlie Sheen would not be at all happy about that. :P
I'll answer you with a quote "I don't like fighting, I LOVE WINNING!"

But that doesn't mean I can't have fun, when I lose
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Post Post #168 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:50 am

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In post 167, Ramcius wrote:
In post 166, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 165, Ramcius wrote:
In post 162, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 144, RadiantCowbells wrote:Why does Nancy feel the need to bring up she won 2 scum games versus me

Think about it for a moment
Why wouldn’t I? Did you read Ramcius’ post?
Nancy, not everyone equate fun in the game with winning
Do you have something against winning? Charlie Sheen would not be at all happy about that. :P
I'll answer you with a quote "I don't like fighting, I LOVE WINNING!"

But that doesn't mean I can't have fun, when I lose

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Post Post #169 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2019 4:15 am

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In post 168, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
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Post Post #170 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:39 am

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I mostly play to have fun. There's really no value in being good at competitive mafia.
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Post Post #171 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:09 am

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There's no value in people, who join mafia as a social gathering
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Post Post #172 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:24 am

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There's no value in value
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Post Post #173 (ISO) » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:35 am

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In post 171, Ramcius wrote:There's no value in people, who join mafia as a social gathering
I join to help feed the dumpster fire.
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