SWN II: The Curse of the Nekomata (Game over!)

[LlamaFluff]

At this point nobody has solidified themselves as scum or town yet.

You have zero reads?

[LlamaFluff]

Oh and if one of tubby/SSK are completely faking the PR, its tubby. Im thinking they both really have the PR though.

So no one (ace/fishy) can delay posting

Do you get modkilled if you break your PR?
Do you get a warning if you break your PR?
What is your role name?
What is the flavor behind your role?
Are there any limitations on quoting?

[sykedoc]

At this point nobody has solidified themselves as scum or town yet.

You have zero reads?

I've found that many of my first day leads are completely negated by day 2.
I just don't get good reads on people initially.

[LlamaFluff]

At this point nobody has solidified themselves as scum or town yet.

You have zero reads?

I've found that many of my first day leads are completely negated by day 2.
I just don't get good reads on people initially.

So what, you arent going to do anything today then? If you are better after day one you should just replace into games.

[tubby216]

Sim tenho uma restrição de poste.

[Pomegranate]

Sim tenho uma restrição de poste.

Whoa, no kidding!

[sykedoc]

At this point nobody has solidified themselves as scum or town yet.

You have zero reads?

I've found that many of my first day leads are completely negated by day 2.
I just don't get good reads on people initially.

So what, you arent going to do anything today then? If you are better after day one you should just replace into games.

What gives you the impression I'm not going to do anything? I'll converse and dig for information when I think of a good way to do so but most first day votes are baseless or based on something small and insignificant.

[DeathNote]

Again, I can not read this foreign language stuff so if anyone has any other translation sites, I would be much appreciative.

I do not have a Post Restriction at this time. I wouldn't be surprised if someone got one latter on in the game.

Who said Llama was leading? He just seems to be trying to act Pro-town to me.

[sykedoc]

Sim tenho uma restrição de poste.

Portugese? I think...

[LlamaFluff]

Sim tenho uma restrição de poste.

Portugese? I think...

Yes its portugese, now please answer my question

[sykedoc]

Sim tenho uma restrição de poste.

Portugese? I think...

Yes its portugese, now please answer my question

I did. You didn't read it I assume.

[sykedoc]

If its absolutely necessary I can give you first day reads. But I've found that often, peoples reads on day 1 lead to villagers getting killed for stupid reasons.

[LlamaFluff]

If its absolutely necessary I can give you first day reads. But I've found that often, peoples reads on day 1 lead to villagers getting killed for stupid reasons.

Well I was hoping that wasnt the answer

You are either going to scumhunt or be the D1 lynch. You can not have zero reads on anyone at this point in the game. What you are saying basically is pre-emptively giving reasoning for a mislynch because 'you arent good with D1 reads' and 'they will change D2'.

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[sykedoc]

If its absolutely necessary I can give you first day reads. But I've found that often, peoples reads on day 1 lead to villagers getting killed for stupid reasons.

Well I was hoping that wasnt the answer

You are either going to scumhunt or be the D1 lynch. You can not have zero reads on anyone at this point in the game. What you are saying basically is pre-emptively giving reasoning for a mislynch because 'you arent good with D1 reads' and 'they will change D2'.

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It will not end well if you crusade against me.

[LlamaFluff]

If its absolutely necessary I can give you first day reads. But I've found that often, peoples reads on day 1 lead to villagers getting killed for stupid reasons.

Well I was hoping that wasnt the answer

You are either going to scumhunt or be the D1 lynch. You can not have zero reads on anyone at this point in the game. What you are saying basically is pre-emptively giving reasoning for a mislynch because 'you arent good with D1 reads' and 'they will change D2'.

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It will not end well if you crusade against me.

Duly noted, vote stays

[sykedoc]

I find it stupid reasoning to vote for someone because their policies do not agree with yours.

You're essentially saying: I don't like the way you play, so I'm voting for you.

And yeah, I can have zero reads. It depends on your definition of a read.
I believe a read is a valid suspicion. I have none to this point. Anything I do have is based off something i do not consider substantial.

If you can't live with that you can try to lynch me but again. It won't end well.

[LlamaFluff]

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I need some time to think. I just caught up on everything that happened between now and my last post and I'm sufficiently confused.

If you are caught up, who do you think is scummy?

Honestly, I don't. My theory having been in B-Mod games before is... its highly likely at least ONE person with a PR is mafia.

You know, here is even a huge jumping off point for you. Apparently one of the PR people are scum, which one? Even if 'you dont know much yet' or anything like that which is keeping you from contributing, make an educated guess, even if its just one line of one post.

[LlamaFluff]

I find it stupid reasoning to vote for someone because their policies do not agree with yours.

You're essentially saying: I don't like the way you play, so I'm voting for you.

nope, its a 'be helpful and scumhunt or die' ultimatum

And yeah, I can have zero reads. It depends on your definition of a read.
I believe a read is a valid suspicion. I have none to this point. Anything I do have is based off something i do not consider substantial.

A read means that you think Player A is more X then player B for point Y or line Z. Just about every post for me does something for a read, there are actually a few people that are slightly scummy to me already and I wouldnt mind wagoning up a bit.

If you can't live with that you can try to lynch me but again. It won't end well.

Threats dont work well hun. Try scumhunting, that works wonders

[sykedoc]

Well I've been in 2 or 3 games with a bunch of PRs and I've helped run one. In each there was a mafia with a PR. Its just the odds that the mod wont just give PRs to town.

Theres also a possibility that one of them is made up.

We have someone talking in french and one in Portugese. It is possibly that one of these is fake.

The others haven't given me reason to suspect them yet. I was throwing that idea out there on basis of personal experience but I haven't seen suspicious enough behavior from them to say that they look scummy beyond what I said above about the possibility of a fake PR.

[sykedoc]

Threats dont work well hun. Try scumhunting, that works wonders

It wasn't a threat. Think hard about why I may have said that.

[sykedoc]

A read means that you think Player A is more X then player B for point Y or line Z. Just about every post for me does something for a read, there are actually a few people that are slightly scummy to me already and I wouldnt mind wagoning up a bit.

The problem here is just about everything is scummy on D1. Actions without context don't do a lot for me. Im not one of these people who believes all policy lynching is town-like or that white knighting is town like.

[LlamaFluff]

Well I've been in 2 or 3 games with a bunch of PRs and I've helped run one. In each there was a mafia with a PR. Its just the odds that the mod wont just give PRs to town.

So its a sort of confirmation bias or something then? I know its WIFOM but man, its wrong. Mod could of though 'hey maybe I can make a bunch of town PRs and someone will try and lynch them because one "must" be scum'

Theres also a possibility that one of them is made up.

Only one that I have any suspicion of being made up is ace. The others are quite obviously real, tubby/SSK especially.

We have someone talking in french and one in Portugese. It is possibly that one of these is fake.

Nope, they are both real.

The others haven't given me reason to suspect them yet. I was throwing that idea out there on basis of personal experience but I haven't seen suspicious enough behavior from them to say that they look scummy beyond what I said above about the possibility of a fake PR.

So NOTHING that ANYONE has said made you think "this doesnt sound quite right?"

Threats dont work well hun. Try scumhunting, that works wonders

It wasn't a threat. Think hard about why I may have said that.

I did, im still not going to stop trying to force you to do something though.

A read means that you think Player A is more X then player B for point Y or line Z. Just about every post for me does something for a read, there are actually a few people that are slightly scummy to me already and I wouldnt mind wagoning up a bit.

The problem here is just about everything is scummy on D1. Actions without context don't do a lot for me. Im not one of these people who believes all policy lynching is town-like or that white knighting is town like.

HAHAHAHHAHA you have to be kidding that everything is scummy D1. Its usually more of the opposite to me, I come out with a few super strong town reads, then a bunch of middling people and a few I think are scum. Context D1 is more in implications and moves that make little sense either logically or with what the player had been acting on earlier.

[sykedoc]

So its a sort of confirmation bias or something then? I know its WIFOM but man, its wrong. Mod could of though 'hey maybe I can make a bunch of town PRs and someone will try and lynch them because one "must" be scum'

And you don't think it could be the other way around?

Only one that I have any suspicion of being made up is ace. The others are quite obviously real, tubby/SSK especially.

What makes a PR real in a game where its obvious people will have them? I've seen people make up PRs to distract people. What is "obvious" about it. You never said that, you only said it was. Also why is a language post restriction more or less valid than a color one? This seems like a very closed thought.

Nope, they are both real.

You can prove this beyond reasonable doubt? Do not claim very matter-of-factly if you can't.

So NOTHING that ANYONE has said made you think "this doesnt sound quite right?"

Really, no. It seems very par for the course for D1. I dont see anything that directly makes me think "he's scum!". Personally I've seen people White Knight more times than I can count and end up scum, but again this is a personal bias. I don't think this assures scum.

HAHAHAHHAHA you have to be kidding that everything is scummy D1.

Unnecessarily abrasive.

Its usually more of the opposite to me, I come out with a few super strong town reads, then a bunch of middling people and a few I think are scum. Context D1 is more in implications and moves that make little sense either logically or with what the player had been acting on earlier.

If you absolutely insist: Here's my list, although again I don't find these to be substantial at the moment...:

I copied this off of notepad... so.. not every one is filled in. Take with a grain of salt.

ace5993
animorpherv1
Anon- scummy simply for not initially giving a reason behind his vote when it wasn't random
Bogre
Datadanne
DeathNote
DedicatedScribe
DocPotter- A tad scummy for simply repeating the status quo
FishytheFish- Town lean.
Kairyuu- Leaning towards town, seems similar to previous play w/ him.
kyle99- IDK
LlamaFluff- White Knighting, can go either way.
MafiaSSK- Post Restricted/ Feels town
My Milked Eek
Nul- Scummy for active lurking with a completely non-contributory vote. ----Could be a noob... or not.
Parama - IDK
pman5595
Pomegranate- Doesn't feel scummy.
RayFrost- FoS - I didn't like his weird policy lynch post.
SaintKerrigan
Sanhora
sykedoc
tubby216
wolfram

[DeathNote]

Did anyone else just see what happened? We went from, "I have no reads" to "here is my list of suspicion" with almost half filled out. Props to Llama on that one.


On a side note, its going to be like this all game. See the LoS above me? See how there is nothing beside my name? Yeah....

[sykedoc]

Did anyone else just see what happened? We went from, "I have no reads" to "here is my list of suspicion" with almost half filled out. Props to Llama on that one.


On a side note, its going to be like this all game. See the LoS above me? See how there is nothing beside my name? Yeah....

I said I had em, I just said they weren't legitimate to me. I always keep something. I just don't think any of these account for enough to vote for someone.