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Post Post #1475 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2009 3:30 pm

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How serious? I'm honestly not sure I can find a replacement for a game this late in it.
well the thing is dead i am currently using my wife's wich is a big taboo. i iether need to figure out how to gerry-rigg it to ge tit to work or buy new and i has no cash due to holiday shoppping for kids
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Post Post #1476 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:19 pm

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I'm wondering whether it's the best bet to NL today. We have 5 alive and 2 dead scum of each faction. Best NL case is a double crosskill ending in probably a town win. Worst case is prisoner's dilemma tomorrow.

If we lynch discontinued:
Best case/worst case tomorrow are the same: 2/1

If we lynch sprite:
Best case/worst case tomorrow are the same: 2/1

If we lynch town:
Best case: cross kills, ending in town win
worst case: 1 of each scum faction remaining, no town.

So, assuming there's one of each faction left, each of whom have a kill of some sort, a no lynch guarantees a town member left tomorrow. Lynching scum leads to a 2/1 endgame no matter what. Mislynching could still end in a town win, but also has the chance of having no town members remaining.

This, however, somewhat ignores the possibility of a NK-immune discontinued left. In that case, cross kills aren't possible, but we can still end night with a Sprite member dead. I think it all really depends on how likely we think a NK-immune discontinued is. Ugh, I need to go look at claims again, as this may have some effect on these possibilities.
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Post Post #1477 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:23 am

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Here is the two scum teams as we know them so far.

Discontinued


Korlash 2-shot Hitman
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DizzyIzzyB13 NK-Immune Godfather
SC 2-Shot Roleblocker

The similarity we have it that both Korlash and SC have a two shot night ability. So we could guess that the mod built the two teams along the same line of thought. That would mean we are looking for a NK-Immune GF for Discontinued and a goon for Sprite.

Of course this is a big assumption. Looking at the claims is a good idea, I am not very fimilar with web comics however.
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Post Post #1478 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:18 am

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hasdgfas wrote:I'm wondering whether it's the best bet to NL today. We have 5 alive and 2 dead scum of each faction. Best NL case is a double crosskill ending in probably a town win. Worst case is prisoner's dilemma tomorrow.
You just shot way up my scumdar, cow.


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Post Post #1479 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:11 pm

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hasdgfas wrote:I'm wondering whether it's the best bet to NL today. We have 5 alive and 2 dead scum of each faction. Best NL case is a double crosskill ending in probably a town win. Worst case is prisoner's dilemma tomorrow.
You just shot way up my scumdar, cow.
Great job at explaining the reason for that. Is it because I advocated for NL? It's not always a no-no, you know.
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Post Post #1480 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:11 pm

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Gorrad wrote:
How serious? I'm honestly not sure I can find a replacement for a game this late in it.
well the thing is dead i am currently using my wife's wich is a big taboo. i iether need to figure out how to gerry-rigg it to ge tit to work or buy new and i has no cash due to holiday shoppping for kids
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Post Post #1481 (ISO) » Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:53 am

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@ the mod ok well we are close to ending this so i will try


so oujr options now are no lynch or lynch one of the two remaining factions is that correct?
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Post Post #1482 (ISO) » Fri Nov 27, 2009 6:58 am

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Post Post #1483 (ISO) » Fri Nov 27, 2009 1:59 pm

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well i think no lynch is the way to go

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Post Post #1484 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2009 5:01 pm

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I don't think we should be no lynching if there is an un-nightkillable scum left out there and that seems likely. I think we should lynch either Rolf or Hascow today.
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Post Post #1485 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2009 7:04 pm

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V/LA for the rest of the holiday weekend, as apparently I need to post this to not get a prod.
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Post Post #1486 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2009 8:08 pm

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tubby216 wrote:well i think no lynch is the way to go

vote:no-lynch
Awesome. Why? Explain your reasoning.

I think its scummy to want to no lynch. No lynch is better odds for scum who get to control kills. Not to mention that the chance of a unnightkillable existing is high for game balance reasons so the best result (2x cross fire) is extremely unlikely.

The correct play, if your town, is to correctly lynch scum.

Now granted we may ML. But, then we STILL have the chance for crossfire that is not much lower odds then without the lynch.

To summarize: I see no reason to no lynch today. If you do, I want to know why.

Who do you find scummy tubby?
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Post Post #1487 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2009 3:43 am

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Who do you find scummy Sajin?
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Post Post #1488 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2009 3:50 am

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Let me get a response from Hasdgafas and Tubby on my last post and I will get back to you.

Currently leaning Hasdgafas. If he was indeed town I think he would not be advocating what he is advocating. He plays better than that.

I need tubby's response to my post.
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Post Post #1489 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2009 5:31 am

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unvote


saujin for as much as mi hate to admit it u are right.

ithink scum are cow and rolf
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Post Post #1490 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2009 1:05 pm

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but with 5 alive its 3 to lynch so we have to be very careful about how we place our votes.

just give me till tomorrow i'll try to rescue my notes from busted comp if that fails then i will redo my iso reads wich i may have to do anyway.

and since i have been told i suck for not giving enough content EVER i will attempt to remedy that with in my next couple of posts
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Post Post #1491 (ISO) » Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:17 pm

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Sajin wrote:Let me get a response from Hasdgafas and Tubby on my last post and I will get back to you.

Currently leaning Hasdgafas. If he was indeed town I think he would not be advocating what he is advocating. He plays better than that.

I need tubby's response to my post.
Did you even see my post where I went over the possibilities to all of today's lynch possibilities?

If we think there's a NK-immune scum, the best choice is obviously lynching them, but if we don't think there's a NK-immune scum, we have the possibility of a NL leading cross-kill ending in a town win, if we assume one of each scum.

The real question here is, do we think there's a NK-immune scum? If we do, let's lynch someone. If we don't, let's NL. That's what I was attempting to say with my other post, not that NL is the best possibility right now period. In case you didn't notice, I was nowhere near sure about anything in my last post, as I didn't even vote for NL.
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Post Post #1492 (ISO) » Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:44 am

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Sajin wrote:Let me get a response from Hasdgafas and Tubby on my last post and I will get back to you.

Currently leaning Hasdgafas. If he was indeed town I think he would not be advocating what he is advocating. He plays better than that.

I need tubby's response to my post.
Did you even see my post where I went over the possibilities to all of today's lynch possibilities?

If we think there's a NK-immune scum, the best choice is obviously lynching them, but if we don't think there's a NK-immune scum, we have the possibility of a NL leading cross-kill ending in a town win, if we assume one of each scum.

The real question here is, do we think there's a NK-immune scum? If we do, let's lynch someone. If we don't, let's NL. That's what I was attempting to say with my other post, not that NL is the best possibility right now period. In case you didn't notice, I was nowhere near sure about anything in my last post, as I didn't even vote for NL.

Ok. So why should I think you are town? What protown action have you made in the thread?

You just state no lynch is better for town with no backup. I think its sided towards the scum factions. Explain to me why you want to no lynch if there is no unkillable but lynch if you do.

Also of note, why is it more important to lynch the unkillable over the other faction? I think you scum slipped there.
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Post Post #1493 (ISO) » Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:39 am

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Sajin wrote:Ok. So why should I think you are town? What protown action have you made in the thread?
This is not correct play. You need to look for those yourself, as I might think something is pro-town, and you'll completely disagree. This hasn't nearly been my best game(and is the latest in a line that's made me decide something, but that's for post-game), but here's the question. If everyone seems to think I'm scum, why hasn't scum tried to NK me? Isn't that the easiest way to try to get rid of me for the opposing faction?
Sajin wrote:You just state no lynch is better for town with no backup. I think its sided towards the scum factions. Explain to me why you want to no lynch if there is no unkillable but lynch if you do.
Please read my posts. I've said this multiple times. If there is no NK-immune scum, we have the possibility of crosskills, ending in a town win. If we have one, best case scenario is 3v1 tomorrow, with both attempting to kill each other and only one succeeding, but that's not really any better than lynching a scum and the remaining scum killing a townie.
Sajin wrote:Also of note, why is it more important to lynch the unkillable over the other faction? I think you scum slipped there.
It's not >.< I was thinking we had a way to kill the other scum overnight and then realized I was completely making that up. No scum slip, just confusing myself.

Now please, before we continue discussing this, I want to get this done:

@Everyone: Do you think there's a NK-immune scum remaining or not?
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Post Post #1494 (ISO) » Tue Dec 01, 2009 7:35 am

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I think it is likely there is an NK-immune scum wondering around, this why I want to lynch.
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Post Post #1495 (ISO) » Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:58 am

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Likely yes, but I find that irrelevant to my stance on wanting to lynch today.

So are you going to show the math for your stances or not cow?
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Post Post #1496 (ISO) » Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:52 pm

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Sajin wrote:Likely yes, but I find that irrelevant to my stance on wanting to lynch today.

So are you going to show the math for your stances or not cow?
You don't call THIS showing the math?
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Post Post #1497 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:56 pm

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i'm doing some iso reading. i have begun to reach a surprising conclusion. i'll put it together in a big pretty post after glee is on tonight.
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Post Post #1498 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2009 3:21 am

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its possible to have an nk immune scum left out there.

agian vote placement will be key,

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Post Post #1499 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2009 8:28 am

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tubby216 wrote:its possible to have an nk immune scum left out there
well duh. Please answer the question. I had already figured out it was possible, or I wouldn't have asked the question....
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