Large Normal 201 - House of Harmony - At The End(GAME OVER)

[Alisae]

Transcend plays with me the most on and off this site. I think you should trust his read on me if you TR him

I play with Alisae off site and I can tell ya...this bitch still is almost unreadable to me day 1 lol.

That was before I came here

You are still the same ol' bote tho.

Smarter and more educated then I was months ago.

[Pepchoninga]

Reads by group, town at top

Manuel87
Ramcius
gerryoat

Alisae
BigYoshiFan

drealmerz7
Transcend
Pine
Jaack
Elena Fisher

Indigo

kuror0
Lemon Tree
PenguinPower

Gamma Emerald
ConManMick

Pepchoninga
ironstove

Vote: ConManMick

Agree with the top bit, but one question: Why vote Mick if he's not your lowest tier?

Gamma Emerald
ConManMick

Pepchoninga
ironstove

???? why not vote ironstove and why did you vote mick instead?

Don't feel like leaving one vanity wagon for another at this point. No one else wants to vote Gamma or Ironstove, and I don't want 100 pages of PAGETOP!

Ah okay. For what it's worth, I'm cool with voting Ironstove (at the point that I'm reading currently).

Oh PeregrineV is town btw

I concur.

Townbloc is Alisae, Transcend, Peregrine, Gerryoat, and Peregrine.

Scumbloc is Ramcius, Manuel, ConManMick.

Some games you win by scumhunting.

Some games you win by Townhunting.

This game? I might be both.

I like the townbloc for the most part, but the scumbloc is wrong. I think at least 2 are in the inactives, and the rest are blending pretty well.

Holy shit, drealmerz is in this?

*ISOs*

That's a scum ISO from drealmerz. I've been playing a lot with him, and I'm calling it. He joins the scumbloc.

What's different about this drealmerz and the drealmerz in the game I modded?

Clum (Rem) town

Gerry Town

Con town

2 bad townreads but I will forgive u for voting iron

Those are actually good townreads but I am worried about the reasoning.


Only 7 to go. T_T

Here is another thing. You just said that Ram was a scumfuck the whole day 1 before you replaced him. That would mean that you agree behind the reasoning of people who SR Ram. Yet now you say that you agree with Peregrive's top town reads and well they include Ram. This seems like a minor contradiction, but it has big meaning to the fact that you should never just frame you predecessor, so you can try and look towny.

[Pepchoninga]

Transcend plays with me the most on and off this site. I think you should trust his read on me if you TR him

I play with Alisae off site and I can tell ya...this bitch still is almost unreadable to me day 1 lol.

That was before I came here

You are still the same ol' bote tho.

Smarter and more educated then I was months ago.

Good, so you passed your exams.

Also what do you think me? Have I gotten smarter and more edicated?

[gerryoat]

{gerryoat!!!!}

xDDD, I know i'm triggering ppl doing this

{Transcend, PeregrineV}

{Alise, Pine, BigYoshiFan}

{Kuror0, Elena Fisher}

{Jaaack, Pepchoninga}

{Gamma Emerald, Lemon Tree, drealmerz7, PenguinPower}

{Clumsy, ConManMick}

{Manuel87}

{Ironstove}

Here!!!!

Explain Elena please.

Willing to vote Iron. Mostly a slot read after I looked back on indigo

[Pepchoninga]

Clumsy is town.

Final answer, Regis.

I don't believe he's town, sorry.

[Alisae]

Not answering that question till post game.

[Pepchoninga]

{gerryoat!!!!}

xDDD, I know i'm triggering ppl doing this

{Transcend, PeregrineV}

{Alise, Pine, BigYoshiFan}

{Kuror0, Elena Fisher}

{Jaaack, Pepchoninga}

{Gamma Emerald, Lemon Tree, drealmerz7, PenguinPower}

{Clumsy, ConManMick}

{Manuel87}

{Ironstove}

Here!!!!

Explain Elena please.

Willing to vote Iron. Mostly a slot read after I looked back on indigo

k., but I think she's scum. Also, let's vote Clumsy please.

[Pepchoninga]

Not answering that question till post game.

You did kinda answer it bwfore tho. You said I'm still a newb. And I thought we're like bros...

[gerryoat]

Clumsy's reads are bad but iron is worse. why wont you vote iron?

[Pepchoninga]

Pep's last post was really good and a lot of people wanting to lynch him makes me go to paranoia city
VOTE: Iron
Let's make this wagon take off

I dislike this. Hopping back on a wagon that she was in before she voted me. Tho after seing that he push on me was weak and didn't get any attention and she knew she's not getting me lynched, she again hops on iron.

OPPORTUNISTIC AT ITS BEST

[Pepchoninga]

Clumsy's reads are bad but iron is worse. why wont you vote iron?

I kinda forgot about the dude honestly. Someone please present a case on him, so I can get edicated. Tho zi want to lynch one of my 2 top scumreads. Either Elena or Clumsy.

[Pepchoninga]

Never mind, I decided to not be lazy, and there was a VC more recently that I thought. This is 6 votes, L-4

Ironstove - Yoshi, Gerry, Clumsy, Transcend, Elena, Pine

VOTE: Ironstove

Flashwagon go go go

I don't know much about the iron wagon, and I'm lazy to read his ISO atm. Tho I highly belive it might be lynchbait. If so, there are at least 2 scum on it. I see my top 2 scumreads on it, so I'm not sold out on the iron wagon.

Also lets let the guy come back from his V/Ly at least.

[gerryoat]

Was that vigi shot legit? If not I don't like the fake vigi shot and the fake confirmation that the vigi shot was real.

Btw this is a fake reaction, he says this an hour plus after free the mod posted after the fake shot. It was a forced reaction to cast a dark cloud over it

Has everyone already posted ?

So far no scum reads yet.

Right here he says he has no scumreads and asking if everyone talked yet.

Was that vigi shot legit? If not I don't like the fake vigi shot and the fake confirmation that the vigi shot was real.

Suddenly he is very interested in a fake vig shot. If you look at the timing, you will see that he posted this 1 hour after the mod did the vote count, which means it was obviously fake at this time and he was trying to just cast a dark shadow over it.

If I was a vigi and I had 2 bullets and I was in a room with gerry, hitler, and stalin, I would shoot gerry twice.

Here he thinks he has something to push on, since others were talking about it as well, and tries to push on something that shouldnt give that strong of a scumread if he had no prior scumreads.

Was that vigi shot legit? If not I don't like the fake vigi shot and the fake confirmation that the vigi shot was real.

Btw this is a fake reaction, he says this an hour plus after free the mod posted after the fake shot. It was a forced reaction to cast a dark cloud over it

............ ? Serious?

lol VOTE: Gerry

after i question on it, he sounds like he is confused, and instead of engaging he just goes to vote.

Iron
^ scum

[Pepchoninga]

Another thing I found interesting about Clumsy. (Won't be providing quotes, but if needed, will do.)

He asks Trans I think, why he think I'm lynchbait but not iron. This means he belives that iron is lynchbait. Yet a few posts late he VOTES iron.

Minor contradiction with BIG meaning.

[Alisae]

I don't know much about the iron wagon, and I'm lazy to read his ISO atm. Tho I highly belive it might be lynchbait. If so, there are at least 2 scum on it. I see my top 2 scumreads on it, so I'm not sold out on the iron wagon.

You don't have a life and it's like 12 posts or something.
Go ISO it.

[Pepchoninga]

Was that vigi shot legit? If not I don't like the fake vigi shot and the fake confirmation that the vigi shot was real.

Btw this is a fake reaction, he says this an hour plus after free the mod posted after the fake shot. It was a forced reaction to cast a dark cloud over it

Has everyone already posted ?

So far no scum reads yet.

Right here he says he has no scumreads and asking if everyone talked yet.

Was that vigi shot legit? If not I don't like the fake vigi shot and the fake confirmation that the vigi shot was real.

Suddenly he is very interested in a fake vig shot. If you look at the timing, you will see that he posted this 1 hour after the mod did the vote count, which means it was obviously fake at this time and he was trying to just cast a dark shadow over it.

If I was a vigi and I had 2 bullets and I was in a room with gerry, hitler, and stalin, I would shoot gerry twice.

Here he thinks he has something to push on, since others were talking about it as well, and tries to push on something that shouldnt give that strong of a scumread if he had no prior scumreads.

Was that vigi shot legit? If not I don't like the fake vigi shot and the fake confirmation that the vigi shot was real.

Btw this is a fake reaction, he says this an hour plus after free the mod posted after the fake shot. It was a forced reaction to cast a dark cloud over it

............ ? Serious?

lol VOTE: Gerry

after i question on it, he sounds like he is confused, and instead of engaging he just goes to vote.

Iron
^ scum

Hmmm, I see. It just seems like he is asking dumb questions and is being confused tho. I did get quite confused in this situation too. Anyways I can see why you SR him, but I can also see why he would be perfect lynchbait for scum.

Wanna see more to him, when he returns from his V/Lo.

[Pepchoninga]

I don't know much about the iron wagon, and I'm lazy to read his ISO atm. Tho I highly belive it might be lynchbait. If so, there are at least 2 scum on it. I see my top 2 scumreads on it, so I'm not sold out on the iron wagon.

You don't have a life and it's like 12 posts or something.
Go ISO it.

Fuck me, why are you so right...ok, gonna do that now.

[Pepchoninga]

Kinda disappointed we're escaping rvs and didn't get a large wagon from it. O well. Maybe next massive ass game.

Let's fix that

VOTE: Yoshi

If you're town vote for Yoshi.

If you're mafia, then don't.

Ughhhhh, ok, now I see. His RVS posting is lolfull. If he flips red, I'm SRing Yoshi.

[Pepchoninga]

If I was a vigi and I had 2 bullets and I was in a room with gerry, hitler, and stalin, I would shoot gerry twice.

I want this to be sarcasm, but it really bad nevertheless.

[Pepchoninga]

Ok, read it trough. He's been lolfull, but I'm not really seeing him as a BIG scum read. I still wanna lynch Elena or Clumsy more.

[Pepchoninga]

Funny thing is, you were actually right bote...he did really have 15 posts xD

[Alisae]

Alright...Yeah, considering Pep's response to it, I think I might consider an ironstove wagon even more now.

At first Pep was like "Eh, I don't really wanna do it, he's probably lynchbait" which comes off as "eh, I don't really wanna bring attention to my scumbuddy."
Then I tell him to do it and he has no excuse.
And now he's like "Eh, he's scummy I guess but I rather lynch Clum and Elena more."
To me this comes across as he never really cared about Ironstove until he was forced to take a stance on it.
Yeah no.

[Alisae]

Just because ywall are lynchbait does not make ywall town aligned.

[Clumsy]

Can't sleep. Work in 7 hours. Ugh. Gonna do some low effort required things, I'll still get to the big things tomorrow or sometime.

Here is another thing. You just said that Ram was a scumfuck the whole day 1 before you replaced him. That would mean that you agree behind the reasoning of people who SR Ram. Yet now you say that you agree with Peregrive's top town reads and well they include Ram. This seems like a minor contradiction, but it has big meaning to the fact that you should never just frame you predecessor, so you can try and look towny.

Bad phrasing on my part. I'm saying he's right about those reads. Sorry for confusion.

Another thing I found interesting about Clumsy. (Won't be providing quotes, but if needed, will do.)

He asks Trans I think, why he think I'm lynchbait but not iron. This means he belives that iron is lynchbait. Yet a few posts late he VOTES iron.

Minor contradiction with BIG meaning.

What makes you so sure that Pep is lynch bait, but Iron isn't? I'm not saying I disagree with you, but I want to know your reasons.

I'm asking that question to see what they think is different between the two. I even point out that I don't necessarily agree or disagree, I'm picking their brain. Nowhere did I say that I think Iron is lynchbait. If I thought someone was lynchbait, they wouldn't be on the bottom of my readlists. Don't misrep me.

Pep's last post was really good and a lot of people wanting to lynch him makes me go to paranoia city
VOTE: Iron
Let's make this wagon take off

I dislike this. Hopping back on a wagon that she was in before she voted me. Tho after seing that he push on me was weak and didn't get any attention and she knew she's not getting me lynched, she again hops on iron.

OPPORTUNISTIC AT ITS BEST

Might have a point here. I'll keep that in mind when rereading this slot.

Idc as long as he's not at L-1 where someone can lolhammer him.
I like everyone on the wagon except Clumsy, but that could easily change when he responds tomorrow.

Is that because of Ram, or because of me?

@Clumsy 1398 - Not quoting and snipping that long fucker of a post. Transcend is super obvTown. Shut up unless it is to scumhunt the other team or tell us yours.

Pine, how much can I trust you?

In this game? Entirely. This is me in Strahd. Transcend is my Andrius, Alisae is Sly, and regrettably, you replaced Dunnstral.

Clumsy is town.

Final answer, Regis.

WHAT. Disagree. Stop it. You were on board a bit ago.

Well the shut up was unnecessarily rude. Is your scumread a remnant of the slot, or do you take issue with the new occupant?

Yoshi

: Happy birthday. I hope you have a good one.

Hey Clumsy, when you get some time, could you give me your reasoning behind your reads on me, ironstove, ConManMick, and Manuel? Reading through your catch-up, I'm not satisfied with how you've explained these reads.

I will still do this in more detail at some point in the very near future. Short versions: I believe the Ironstove wagon is pretty explained by everything going on above, and that's pretty much the gist of mine too. Mick and Manuel have had a very rough start in this game, but I am confident in my townread of them for reasons I can't talk about right now. For you, it's a bit of an odd read because I agree with most of your reads, but I can't shake this feeling that you're hunting scum as a member of the opposite scum team. But I've never done a large game before, or even read one, so I'm kind of going on instinct for how all that works. The interaction between you and Alisae around 670ish really seems off for me, on your side.


Question for you, what is your progression from this:

But Yoshi you like how I'm pushing Pep yet you scumread me.
I mean, I understand this is multiball, but that's just weird.

Multiball is one reason.
Your uncharacteristic and poorly-evidenced defense of gerry is another.
This being early in the game (so my reads could all be wack and Pep could be town) is another.

Yoshi why do I feel like your read on me is complete bullshit?

Yoshi why do I feel like your read on me is complete bullshit?

I don't know, because you're scum and don't wanna believe it?

to this:

{Transcend, Gerryoat}

{Elena Fisher, Pine}

{Jaack, PV, Alisae}

{LemonTree, drealmerz7, Gamma Emerald, Ramcius/Clumsy}

{PenguinPower}

{Manuel87, kuror0}

{ConManMick, ironstove, Pepchoninga}

I stole your rainbow reads Transcend. XD

Putting Alisae above the null line? I didn't where a shift in your read came from, but it is 3 A.M. here and I should be asleep.

[Alisae]

Clumsy I got a bed time story for you.

The cats nestle close to their kittens now.
The lambs have laid down with the sheep.
You’re cozy and warm in your bed, my dear.
Please go the fuck to sleep.

The windows are dark in the town, child.
The whales huddle down in the deep.
I’ll read you one very last book if you swear
You’ll go the fuck to sleep.

The eagles who soar through the sky are at rest
And the creatures who crawl, run, and creep.
I know you’re not thirsty. That’s bullshit. Stop lying.
Lie the fuck down, my darling, and sleep.

The wind whispers soft through the grass, hon.
The field mice, they make not a peep.
It’s been thirty-eight minutes already.
Jesus Christ, what the fuck? Go to sleep.

All the kids from day care are in dreamland.
The froggie has made his last leap.
Hell no, you can’t go to the bathroom.
You know where you can go? The fuck to sleep.

The owls fly forth from the treetops.
Through the air, they soar and they sweep.
A hot crimson rage fills my heart, love.
For real, shut the fuck up and sleep.

The cubs and the lions are snoring,
Wrapped in a big snuggly heap.
How is it you can do all this other great shit
But you can’t lie the fuck down and sleep?

The seeds slumber beneath the earth now
And the crops that the farmers will reap.
No more questions. This interview’s over.
I’ve got two words for you, kid: fucking sleep.

The tiger reclines in the simmering jungle.
The sparrow has silenced her cheep.
Fuck your stuffed bear, I’m not getting you shit.
Close your eyes. Cut the crap. Sleep.

The flowers doze low in the meadows
And high on the mountains so steep.
My life is a failure, I’m a shitty-ass parent.
Stop fucking with me, please, and sleep.

The giant pangolins of Madagascar are snoozing.
As I lie here and openly weep.
Sure, fine, whatever, I’ll bring you some milk.
Who the fuck cares? You’re not gonna sleep.

This room is all I can remember.
The furniture crappy and cheap.
You win. You escape. You run down the hall.
As I nod the fuck off, and sleep.

Bleary and dazed I awaken
To find your eyes shut, so I keep
My fingers crossed tight as I tiptoe away
And pray that you’re fucking asleep.

We’re finally watching our movie.
Popcorn’s in the microwave. Beep.
Oh shit. Goddamn it. You’ve gotta be kidding.
Come on, go the fuck back to sleep.