Mini 1538: POWERFUL WIZARDS (SpyreX Lives!)

[kanyeknowsbest]

Okay I'm back to thinking taht LnGrrrr is town. Needing someone to believe in as town is how I feel at endgame and need a touchstone. I mean sure he can *say* that but I also was thinking about his setup spec post. I was thinking that it could be scum complaining about the setup, but the spec was based on their being 3 scum so he had to have been trying to plant it early that he didn't know how many scum there are, and I'm not sure that it actually reads that way.

I don't even know if this is making sense; I haven't slept and my brain is shutting down on me.

I have some work to do today (and hopefully a nap to take!) so I'll get back to this in a bit.

which setup spec post?

[Tammy]

I'm going to bed.

[Tammy]

Also, only having two suiciders is a damn weird setup. If both of them hit town, then the game could potentially end D2:

Beginning of game: 3 scum, 10 town (I'm assuming)

D1: Tierce suicides on town, - 2 town
D1: Dan suicides on town -2 town
D1: Mislynch -1 town
N1: NK, - 1 town

D2: 4 town, 3 scum
D2: Mislynch -1 town, game over

That's sucky.

[Tammy]

Oh wait. I actually don't like the I'm assuming part.

[kanyeknowsbest]

i actually hated that post?

[Tammy]

Well I originally hated it because it read as a potential this setup isn't fair post, then thinking back on memory I liked it when thinking it had 3 scum. But I hate the I'm assuming part.

[kanyeknowsbest]

im distracted for the next 20 minutes but no lynch is not an option in pluralities so pls stick around.

[Tammy]

I'll stay around as long as I can stay awake. I get up in 6 hours, but I just checked the rules and it doesn't say we can't no lynch.

[SpyreX]

Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 3

No Lynch

-2 - Gammagooey,Tammy - (L-1)

Players not voting: LnGrrrR, kanyeknowsbest

A couple clarifications:
* With plurality and a tie, the first person who reaches the tie is lynched.
* No Lynch, when explicitly voted for, is a person.

[kanyeknowsbest]

oh huh. no lynch it is then

[SpyreX]

Darkness covers the room, and only a single faint scratching note accompanied another spell leaving the book.

Tammy,

Color Spray, Vanilla

has been scratched out.

[LnGrrrR]

Big surprise there.

Time to end the game, one way or another.

VOTE: KanyeKnowsBest

If you are scum Gamma, congrats.

[kanyeknowsbest]

if youre not scum you should probably unvote before gamma shows up.

[kanyeknowsbest]

otoh tho if you are scum thanks for making it easy for me bud

[Gammagooey]

im pretty not scum you guys

[kanyeknowsbest]

cool

vote linger

[kanyeknowsbest]

tammy kill actually makes super sense for linger scum here. she was backing off of her town read on him and you already flat out said youd vote me over him.

im going tryin 2 sleep right now but ill be happy 2 chat w. you abt w.e. 2morrow gamma

[Gammagooey]

yeah i'll bug people about stuff once i'm off work probably

i'll try not to drag it out the full week to lynch as long as you guys show up to talk about stuff though

[kanyeknowsbest]

lol i just realized where the n3 kill went. linger set it to porkens when he was leaving figuring id be lynched and did not know about spyrex allowing conditional night actions. ahahaha thats pretty fucked up

[Gammagooey]

i do have a few questions now actually but don't worry about answering them super quickly

@lngrrr-why start the day off with the vote?

@kanye- how likely did you think it was I was scum after my posts last night?

[Gammagooey]

also there's another really easy explanation for a no kill night 3 which was scum thought it would be a good idea after porkens went on about it

like i know this is the easiest thing to go on about since it just happened but it's not exactly useful to me right now

[LnGrrrR]

Cool. I chose correctly.

Gamma, I started the day off with a vote because Tammy's death provided us with no info. Both you and Kanye aren't super towny, but overall I felt Kanye was slightly scummier. He gave all sorts of WIFOM reasons why he would keep certain players alive, but he never fully pushed anyone. It was mostly a gut thing, and I didn't want to go a whole week of both of you WIFOMing just to come to the endgame.

Kanye is doing all he can to try and use NK analysis to picture me as scum, because he knows he can't do it through an actual case. Scum NOT killing Tammy would have been stupid there, and would be relying on WIFOM to pull off the win in a pretty ballsy way. It would be much safer to hope that one of us voted the other and quick hammer for the win.

Look at his request for me to unvote; he assumes I am town and tells me to unvote before you get here (implying you are scum.) Then he realizes that if he calls YOU scum, you are likely to side with me, so he immediately backtracks and says, "Hey if you are scum thanks for making it easy"... Why? Because he knows if I was confident enough to open the day with a vote on him, I am unlikely to vote Gamma instead of him.

That "hahah conditional actions" post is scummy as all heck btw Kanye. You're slipping. Better step your game up if you want to convince Gamma to vote me for the win.

[kanyeknowsbest]

ill admit gamma i was concerned that you were scum trying to get everyone to vote no lynch so you could pass a deadline lynch at the last second easily, but spyrex clarifying no lynch being an option pretty much swept that away. outside of that i was still concerned about how defensive you had acted on d3 and that you looked like you were prepping for d4, but i want to say that i would have gone w. linger, esp w. tammy backing off of her defense of him.

[Gammagooey]

so uh

im kind of hoping that you guys will go into some detail on some things you were thinking about during the game but didnt feel like saying

or why the other person's scum for detailed reasons that didn't occur after you voted them and I became conf. town

or something that gives some kind of insight into your alignment that i won't immediately dismiss as garbage that you'd probably say as either alignment

[kanyeknowsbest]

i got around to looking at linger. 1261 is definitely weird setup spec that i could see coming from scum, and he definitely didnt really seem to care that much about who was lynched d3 but still wanted to perpetuate the 1v1 and split the wagons to make it look legit. 1271 is also weird to come from town who believes this is lylo since gamma is basically confirmed scum to him. and i really cant find any logic that lead him to vote me over porkens either, considering he spent the entire day going "gosh i dunno who to vote gamma porkens and kanye are all sos cummy." he spent a lot of the early day urging someone else to vote first: this is what i expect scum to do here. if he can convince another player to vote first he gets a free trip through the day based on everyone thinking its lylo.

this plus going back to his reaction towards my abrasiveness d1 being a exact fucking mirror of scum zdenek in upick of fire and ice and his weird posturing around the fate lynch (which i regret not pursuing back then but alas, blinded by tuierce) are basically what i was working w. at the end of yesterday when i was leaning towards him. i can elaborate on ne of that you want.