In post 1348, drmyshotgun wrote:I'm finding some interesting shit in Mafia-n00b iso.
I'll just give a taste of his earlier posts.
Early interaction with Wraith (scum).
OK, both you and MattP seem to have a problem with my RVS vote, and I'm honestly not sure why. I just picked someone and came up with a "reason" for funsies. It's one of the only points in the game where we can just be ridiculous.
OMGUS vote followed and dismisses it without making content out of it.
Wraith claims to have "Found Scum" in Mafia-n00b.
Some multiple votes follow.
I brought it up as a curiosity, I didn't think it was a scumtell. Hindsight is 20/20, but keep in mind that at the time, I didn't know Wraith was scum.
In post 54, mafia-n00b wrote:Aaaaaand so it continues.
My meta is that people always think I'm scum early game... ALWAYS. For completed games, 2 town, 1 scum... everyone thought I was scum right off the bat... and I'm not even sure why.
Says it's normal that everyone thinks he's Scum early in the game.
Yeah... This looks scum. Person bringing in his own meta stuff to defense? Even provides links. Must be very dependent on this meta-thing to defend himself.
It is normal for people to think I'm scum during D1. Regardless, I don't see how "yeah, I get why you might think I'm scum, check my meta" is inherently scummy... especially since it's
true
about my meta.
Without much substance, says MattP is having wagon that is "bogus".
Possibly a Scum trying to pull I-told-you-so thing?
Nope, just an observation (protip: It
was
bogus). I thought that there was probably scum on that wagon. It turned out, obviously, that there wasn't ... but that was my thought at the time.
In post 213, mafia-n00b wrote:@MattP:
Wraith scummier than manho?? I don't see it. My take is that 171 should convince you to lynch manho.
Defends Wraith.
That's not a Wraith defense, that's a manho accusation. I didn't say Wraith was town, just that manho was scummier. Re-read Manho's 171... that's why I wanted him lynched. Arguing to get your biggest scumread lynched is a scumtell? That's a new one on me.
I got distracted by Maruchan, mostly, but I
had
misunderstood manho, so I unvoted. Keep in mind, under your theory that I'm the last scum, manho is town. I'd have no reason to back off town-manho if I was scum, I'd want him mislynched.
In post 258, mafia-n00b wrote:VOTE: Bunnylover
I know you've got some catching up to do, but you've done nothing to help the town and the game is over a week old.
Votes a lurker/late.
Scum move.
I disagree completely. There is nothing scummy about voting lurkers for pressure. Heck, there isn't even anything scummy about lynching lurkers if they won't contribute.
In post 260, mafia-n00b wrote:
A) I don't know that you think I'm town, 231 had so much stuff going on that I'm not sure what to take seriously.
B) I don't particularly care right now.
Pretty stupid reaction. B is kinda scummy.
Next post, he claims to be "done" with Kuribo.
It seemed that kuribo was trying to rile me up, so I elected not to play his game. Obviously, we all know how well that worked.
In post 274, mafia-n00b wrote: In post 268, Zdenek wrote:
I've already caught the obv. scum Mykonian, who's now taken to posting elsewhere while avoiding this game.
I take it 122 and 152 are the bulk of your "evidence" against Mykonian?
Would you support a manho lynch today?
How do you feel about lynching someone for actual scummy behavior prior to lynching lurkers?
@lurkers, GET BACK IN THE GAME, DAMMIT!!!
Had backed off from Manho earlier, yet asks Zdenek if he'd support Manho lynch.
Mentions lurkers again.
Looks like he wants things easy for his Scum-life.
Lurkers are bad for town. Lurkers let scum hide. Attacking lurkers is not anti-town. And yes, I still found manho scummy and still do. All that said, you'll note I was advocating lynching someone for being scummy INSTEAD of lynching lurkers.
In post 308, mafia-n00b wrote:Bah... you want me to do math myself?!?! ;P
I think Wraith is at L-1, but no one said anything and I didn't want to hammer... so
FoS
on Wraith.
Doesn't want Wraith lynch. Okay. I am really positive of Mafia-n00b being scum now.
Says no-one said anything. -__-
Still throws a FoS.
I don't get what your complaint here is. I wasn't prepared to end the day, but I found Wraith suspicious.
In post 314, mafia-n00b wrote:Sigh. That's the 2nd damn time I forgot its not 5. I need some kind of "idiot check" or something when I look at votes.
VOTE: Wraith
Votes Wraith when realising he wasn't at L-1. WTF?
Again, not sure what the problem is. Once I realized that it wouldn't end the day, I voted for Wraith, like I had already said I wanted to. What's confusing to you?
In post 357, mafia-n00b wrote:Yeah... it's time to get rid of Mykonian.
Added bonus, NS, you probably won't need to worry about an extension. ;P
VOTE: Mykonian
All aboard! Mykonian lynch wagon~
You mean the wagon that 9 other people were on and YOU hammered? Yeah, that's pretty damning right there...
In post 368, mafia-n00b wrote:
Scum-NS seeing scum-Myko on the road to lynchdom might hope for time to derail that wagon. I don't see giving NS towncred for that.
Thinks NS is scummy. Well he got that right.
Perhaps he
knew
NS was scum and just said so.
So that he can: I-told-you-so again later?
This is pure tunneling. I can't win with you. If I think scum are scummy, I'm just fishing for towncred by bussing, if I think town is scummy, it's because I'm trying for a mislynch. You've already decided and are just looking to confirm your biases. Besides, note my logic was that scum-NS was trying to protect scum-myko.... but myko was town. If you're going to credit me with "knowing" NS was scum, you might want to realize that that specific argument for NS-scum fell apart as soon as myko flipped town... not a very convincing way to fake towncred.
After I claimed to have targetted Senjai, he says he targetted Senjai as well. And doesn't know what to make of it??
Also this kinda messed up the popcorning.
I genuinely did fuck up the popcorning, sorry about that. That's just a derp-tell, though. I don't know why you're confused about how I couldn't draw conclusions... with two people targeting, how were we to guess/reason our doctor-types?
In post 448, mafia-n00b wrote:I used the "target the player paired with you" algorithm someone mentioned.
The hell is this?
It was a reference to 395 and 396 from kuribo.
Aaaaaand, he gets into a fight with Kuribo.
Yeah, we now know that this fight CANNOT be a Scum-to-Scum fight.
So? That just means it was town-town.
In post 620, mafia-n00b wrote:OK, I see it.
VOTE: Nobody Special
This isn't a pressure vote, this is an intent to lynch vote.
Gets on board SS. NobodySpecial
More tunneling. I can't laugh for crying.
Gets the set-up wrong.
Look who's talking if I say that this is scummy, but something interesting.
I've fucked up on the setup for this SO much this game... as have others. I don't think this is a scumtell in others, and I *know* it's not in me, so...
Umm...because it exists? And can be easily checked?
Using this to say you are Town is stupid.
Meh, it may be stupid, but it's true. I brought it up because I was worried people were forgetting that scum could change strategies mid-day.
In post 835, mafia-n00b wrote:NS, are you planning on contributing or what? Should we just policy lynch you?
Ooooh, pulls PL on NS. Lol?
That was sarcastic, obviously. We had plenty of reasons to lynch NS that were real. It was a taunt to get him to post more.
In post 850, mafia-n00b wrote:Vig request: NS
@Matt: It prevents scum from hammering and then claiming "oh, was he at L-1? Oopsy!"
Requests NS to be vigged. Lol?
What's your beef with this? I thought NS was scummy. This was a phase in the game where people weren't just voting, but also requesting that people who thought they were killers target specific people, remember?
In post 853, mafia-n00b wrote: In post 851, Maruchan wrote:
Wah, wah! I'm mad because no one believed I'm town. Rather than admit it's because my playstyle involves me being an ass, I'm going to be petty and hope that my team loses just to spite them!
Good riddance. Hope to see you never, Maru!
Tries to justify Maruchan lynch as a kind of PL.
Therefore taking all responsibilities away. Right?
Not right. Maruchan was being a pissy little baby about it, so I called him on it. He was declaiming his own win condition because he got butthurt... that's not cool.
In post 888, mafia-n00b wrote:... eight dead townies, zero dead mafia... and at MOST, two townies were killed by mafia. We're gonna hand them the win.
Fake sugary emotion?
Real frustration. You were
pleased
with our performance to that point?
Casually shrugs off Seanald's suspicion.
FoS on Seanald at that point. Seanald has said Mafia-n00b's post 888 (see above) is a product only Scum can produce. Yeah, I kinda agree.
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Then both you and Seanald aren't too good at this. If you
truly
believe that there's no way frustrated town can want to vent harmlessly like in 888, you are VERY bad at this game. That argument is terrible.
Uh-huh.
....yeah, you knew NS was Scum too, didn't ya?[/quote]
What? I was pointing out that you were saying THE EXACT THING that you were complaining someone else did and you did it TWO POSTS PRIOR. That's a facepalm of epic proportions. *I* never said I knew NS was scum... wanna know why? It's because I didn't... because I'm town. I don't think saying it is a scumtell, anyway, because people often use hyperbole (say "know" when they mean "convinced") in this game. But calling it a scumtell when you've just done it yourself? That's just absurd.
In post 1134, mafia-n00b wrote:Can someone put up one of those nice posts where we map out everyone's targets?
VOTE: Seanald
Two things that is completely independent of each other in one post.
One is requesting some useless information which he won't really utilise.
The other is voting Seanald. Nice.
Sorry, I missed the memo where we are only allowed to mention one concept per post. Also, it wasn't useless... the target mappings have given us some decent information, even if they're not fully conclusive. We've got an almost certain conf-town!
OK, technically, it could just be that you're scum... and that's why you're playing like crap.
Eager to prove himself with hammering of Wraith.
Lolage.
Perhaps he's scared that Wraith comes back and says stuff that might link him to Wraith?
Anyways, this is scummy.
If I was worried about Wraith coming and talking, I'd use my daytalk thread to tell him not to if I was scum. I didn't want to end the day if anyone wanted to discuss/plan anything for the night. It's not complicated.
In post 1329, mafia-n00b wrote:VOTE: Wraith
Cross your fingers, everyone! (except for scum... you don't cross your fingers... you just die)
Riiiiight...
This pretty much concludes Mafia-n00b iso.
Yeah, I think he's scum.
In conclusion, all of your arguments have been answered. Anything else?