Mini 1392: Social Justice Mafia (Game Over)

[DeltaWave]

Night actions by night:

[qwints]

OK, so the flip for the night 3 kills should have been TheReverend instead of TheRufflig? Also, the intention was for AP to kill Rufflig instead of me which would have ended the game. Finally, why weren't toogeloo or antihero vanilized on N2?

Thanks for modding DeltaWave, and I had fun even if it's a little hard parsing what exactly happened.

[DeltaWave]

It should have said TheReverend instead of TheRufflig in the flip, but the outcome is the same either way, just a typo on my part.

Antihero was vanillized, it just took effect the following night.

Toogeloo was not vanillized because of the sequences of events. I had to figure out how a vanillizing PGO fit into the whole scheme of things, so I figured that the Protect action would then render moot the chain of events after that action. That is, Tajun raped Antihero first because Protect comes first in the series. He did his vanillizing for that night and therefore could not vanillize Toogeloo, who has an attack lower in the order.

[Toogeloo]

So I guess that tell on you was accurate, AP.

Toog, why the shot on me?

These long nights were actually a major bane to my play and I'm already one of the worst vigs in Mafia (as this game proves). I always want to try and vig my questionables and try to lynch my suspects.

I started Night 1 wanting to shoot AngryPidgeon. Then I convinced myself that I shouldn't do that, I should shoot malpascp since he was such a major distraction. The night being as long as it was, I found myself rereading through the game, and you seemed so in the background, so I decided to change my mind and shoot you instead just out of gut. Seriously, the long nights just totally fucked with my convictions on who to shoot.


Night 2 was the only night that I shot at the beginning of the night and forced myself to stay there. I really figured it was going to be win/win for town if I shot Tajun. I'm guessing he wasn't actually a PGO. Doctoring him shouldn't stop people from dying if they target him as a PGO.


Night 3 was my worst night. I think I went from wanting to shoot qwints to wanting to shoot quadz to wanting to shoot TheReverend to wanting to shoot Anti-Hero back to wanting to shoot TheReverend. And again, the long night just absolutely screwed with my head on who to shoot. I changed my mind so many times it was ridiculous. And the only reason I shot TheReverend was because I seriously thought my reads were so ass backwards this game that I was being manipulated by my town reads.

[DeltaWave]

Sorry about the long nights, it's my first role madness game and actually first non-open game so I didn't want any screwups. Tajun wasn't a traditional PGO, he was like a vanillizing PGO.

[quadz08]

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I hate it when people make assumptions about what their flavor means. If it doesn't explicitly say "you do X thing," don't tell the game that's what your role does.

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[AngryPidgeon]

Woah, quadz's name is all green!

I dont know how we won this. I loved the part in D1 where The GG wagon was stalling and Bitmap/Qwints and I just started bussing the shit out of each other for w/e reason. I honestly thought it might come down to a lylo with Jal going into D3.

[AngryPidgeon]

Also I was incredibly paranoid that Toogeloo was goingto shoot qwints. I thought he was the super obvious choice. We had qwints RB Toog and Jal and I were really worried in the maf QT that Rufflig would swap Qwints to someone else, letting Togeloo kill qwints and possibly RBing our kill.

[qwints]

I certainly was astonished at how strong a position we seem to have been in. I felt like I was obv-scum for a lot of the game.

[AngryPidgeon]

Ya. Your RB on Reverend was practically a scum claim >.>

I scumslipped mega hard with my accidental double post I, thought. Toogeloo even pointed it out and it just kind of blew over. It was super obvious I was just bullshitting. I was begging Jal to start spam-posting to cover it up LOL.

I honestly thought Qwints was going down D3. And that I might also go down shortly after. Rufflig made the play we were afraid of last night, but Toog shot incorrectly.

[AngryPidgeon]

Was Konowa a full Doctor then and not a BG?

[AngryPidgeon]

Also, Rev was so obvtown >.>

I enjoyed my scummies. Day chat was fun.

[The Rufflig]

I don't think it was particularly fair not to let Tajun know exactly what his role power was. Keeping elements of a player's role hidden is bastardish. PGOs have the capability of killing multiple visitors in a single night - if Tajun's ability was limited to the first visitor then I think it should have been specified as such. Tajun's role specified that _anyone_ visiting him would be raped.

Antihero claimed to have targeted me night 2 instead of Tajun.

What was the point of PMing me that my night 1 attempt was successful?

[AngryPidgeon]

I think he did target you, but you redirected him to Tajun, right?

You made the right play by redirecting qwints. It would have been interesting if You and qwints died last night.

That would have put us at 2:4. And I had popped my DV. I may have tried to go for the win there with a surprise hammer still. We could have done it on quadz maybe if someone voted him.

[DeltaWave]

I don't think it was particularly fair not to let Tajun know exactly what his role power was. Keeping elements of a player's role hidden is bastardish. PGOs have the capability of killing multiple visitors in a single night - if Tajun's ability was limited to the first visitor then I think it should have been specified as such. Tajun's role specified that _anyone_ visiting him would be raped.

Antihero claimed to have targeted me night 2 instead of Tajun.

What was the point of PMing me that my night 1 attempt was successful?

Antihero did target you initially, but you redirected him to Tajun. The table only reflected the final result of his action.

Tajun actually asked me about it when I sent him the PM, then he sent a follow up PM before I could respond saying that he understood the role. I would have explained more had I got the first PM sooner.

PMing you that your N1 attempt was successful was pointless.

[AngryPidgeon]

D3 had the potential to go south for us. I was planning on fakeclaiming a watcher role and saying that I watched Tajun target GG.

The logic for that was my Double Vote means I automatically win LyLo so making a gambit in the phase before lylo was worth it.

[The Rufflig]

I'm confused then. Antihero has a copy ability that would resolve before my redirect.

[The Rufflig]

Or just the copy part resolves before my redirect -damn it.

[AngryPidgeon]

[DeltaWave]

As you can see, some aspects of Antihero's role was mindbending

[The Rufflig]

Delta, I think you did a fairly good job overall in modding. I commend you for making some original roles. However, I am going to stand by my one criticism on Tajun's role pm. Tajun could not possibly have understood his role from what you wrote in his role pm. That misunderstanding affected game play and hurt the town. In this respect, I think you made a mistake.

I would like to congratulate Angry Pidgeon for fooling me throughout the game. I don't recall ever having more than mild suspicions of him during the game.
Jal, you did a great job making up for your predecessors. I was sorely tempted to redirect you the final night, but I just didn't trust qwints with his roleblock.
qwints, the reason I voted for malpascp instead of you was because I wanted to hear malpascp's claim since I had redirected him to Tajun on night 1. Night 2 I didn't touch you because it looked like there was good chance you would be lynched. Nice job hanging in there, but you never shed my suspicion of you.

Konowa, nice town reading! Thanks for keeping me in the game.
Tajun, The Reverend/xvart, and quadz08/shamrock you all played a solid game.
Toogeloo, you played a decent game, but please work on your aim. Thanks.

[Toogeloo]

Just to give you anidea of how bad my aim is... I've never actually hit scum in three games as a vig.

My first game, I shot the town princess (unclaimed) which led to two night phases, one of which I shot the bodyguard.
My second game, I shot the miller night 1after and then the cop night 2.

Vig is by far my worst role, followed very closely by doc.

[AngryPidgeon]

Jal, quit lurking and post here

I loved how N1 you predicted I was goingto get wagoned and that you 2 would have to bus me and then out of fucking nowhere everyone dropped suspicion of me in favor of qwints.

P-edit: Cop is my worst role. I got it in Tintin and I was so obviously town that I got NKd N1

[AngryPidgeon]

Also, Serene was obvtown as they come and you should all feel ashamed for lynching her over the Pidgeon that was scum-slipping

[TheReverend]

lol toog shot me? Nice. Vig massacre, toog = honourary scum.

qwints and jal were obvscum. Tough defeat to take this one, we should've been in great shape today after jal got shot and qwints lynched.