I didn't. When I started asking for a restricted vigilante, Rag put 2 and 2 together and figured out my role. After she told me her role, she apologized for all the missteps she had made and offered to full claim if I thought it was best. Taking full credit for her RC kill was entirely my idea.
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At what point did you claim to Rag your ability? Did she know your target (Magua) before you sent it in, or only day3? What wer eher suggestions, if any, if you discussed it beforehand?
I didn't. When I started asking for a restricted vigilante, Rag put 2 and 2 together and figured out my role. After she told me her role, she apologized for all the missteps she had made and offered to full claim if I thought it was best. Taking full credit for her RC kill was entirely my idea."It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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PeregrineV wrote:@Thor- You are/were voting MBF, yet unvoted Dram, who MBF just voted for. ????
Yeah...and? You're posting a lot of question marks without actually asking a question.-
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mikeburnfire wrote:At what point did you claim to Rag your ability? Did she know your target (Magua) before you sent it in, or only day3? What wer eher suggestions, if any, if you discussed it beforehand?
I didn't. When I started asking for a restricted vigilante, Rag put 2 and 2 together and figured out my role. After she told me her role, she apologized for all the missteps she had made and offered to full claim if I thought it was best. Taking full credit for her RC kill was entirely my idea.
Did she know your target (Magua) before you sent it in, or only day3? What were her suggestions, if any, if you discussed it beforehand?I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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I think you are missing the part where she figures out my role on Day 3."It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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Most of Rag's activity occurred in Day 1."It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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PeregrineV wrote:@Thor-
It meant "What's up with that?"
Thor votes MBF
MBF votes Dram
Thor unvotes Dram
What's up with that?
Well, first off;
Thor Votes MBF
Thor unvotes and votes Dram.
MBF Votes Dram.
Thor Unvotes Dram.
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Debate, debate, debate whether it helps to not claim...I doubt it;
Official Claim: Day doc
As mbf surmised, I was lying through my teeth. My goal was to convince the Scum Day Vig role to out itself for a 1:1 trade - no dice, and we don't have enough time for me to keep dorking around with this play.
This is also why I was hoping around on mbf when he was gakking around with his partial claim, because I wanted to see if he'd claim Dayvig powers too.
I protected Ant Day 1.
I protected no one Day 2.
I may or may not have protected someone today - I'm not telling in the off chance it gaks with the scum with Day kill power.
Possible thoughts about my role and how it works
I really don't think I'm a night doc unless Mothrax was totally frelling with my head, as my role PM is very specific in that I protect people 'during day phase'.
It's *possible* that there is a scum/SK killing power who targets during the day and flips happen at night and Ant was the Night 1 kill prevented by me...I kinda doubt it, but I want it out there as a thought in case it's true so I can claim personal brilliance.
Lack of a regular Doc claim is confusing the frell out of me - I'm almost starting to think it was a double tap from scum/Vig (which if it was means if Rag is town that she suxx0rs as you shouldn't be vigging the same player scum is targeting, natch)
One of the reasons I've been so antsy is, as everyone's discussing possible mylo tomorrow - if scum have a Daykill power it's really pretty much scum win tomorrow *or* my role exists to freak me the frell out (yes, mothrax, I hate you )
At least one of the claimed PRs is obviously lying their pants off.
Post claims Pere feels like he's exploded into 'lookit me, town!' action - he remains a top death desire.
Now the true soup of the PR bundle is thus;
Ant as a scum claiming cop makes a lot of sense if scum shot at Rag's target night 1. Emp as buddy, declare innocent, claim 'doc' protection, Day vig tomorrow for lulz and win. Seems gutsy with a known alternate killing force out there, but...
I'd honestly be pretty much clearing Rag and mbf at this stage except for the Night 1 "vig" and mbf's freak out on me via self vote followed by not wanting to replace out. That is super sketchy and is making me climb walls in my own head. the fact he ignored it and claims he's staying to "annoy [me]" is even worse and is making my gut howl scum while my head doesn't want to buy it. If they're scum together they could be playing for the Dayvig trick as well, or it could be one of them...but I don't think that would make sense considering their powers. They have to be scum together if either is scum.
MoS is the funny niggle, he seems the 'easy' solution out and I've found KiSS to be a not unworthy tool in hunting scum. If he's scum than it helps elevate Rag/mbf to not scum status. He could be scum with any of the remaining questionable players though. The tough part with him is, if he's scum, he bussed that roleblocker pretty hard.
Roleblocker flip proves town has targeting tech - At least Ant *or* the Vig twins need to be pro-town to justify that.
Existence of my role suggests anti-town DayVig which is super powerful - that can justify pro town Vigs and Cop to my mind, especially with roleblocker in existence.
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Where I'm at currently is probably leaning towards an MoS lynch.
If he's scum then I'd like Rag to shoot at one of Pere or dram.
if he's not scum I'd rather not see a Vig shot because if it's wrong I do believe the Day Vig could then shoot tomorrow and effectively lock down town for the autowin.
Thoughts?
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Oh - Pere gets extra scumpoints for calling me a Day Doc out of nowhere. Though I'd like opinions on that one as I might be confirm biasing how he made that mental leap.-
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When do you choose who your target is?"It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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Also,
Kill: Thor
Dayvig: Thor
Murder: Thor
Assassinate: Thor
Vigkill: Thor
Vig: Thor
Eliminate: Thor
^ We should all post something like that and see what happens."It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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I choose during the day - duuur.
To be precise - anytime during the day.
I'd be fine with the Dayvig test, though submit it would be smarter to choose a target we actually want to lynch since if we prove there's a Dayvig I become confirmed town as soon as we lynch him and he's scum - derpy-doo.
The other issue is you need to make sure Mod clarifies after each posting what happens - if six people post that and then I die - who was the activating party? Play smarter, mbf, or I'll keep being condescending over here.
Kill: MoS
Dayvig: MoS
Murder: MoS
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@mbf - now that the mocking and adjusting of your plan is over and done with - do you have any mocking and adjusting of my stated plan?-
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Oh, and no one else posts an action list till mod confirms seeing mbf's - some *one* else can post targeting MoS, though that's my personal bias as I know I'm not a Dayvig.-
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I don't care enough to take offense anymore.
Why wouldn't you protect Ant as soon as he claimed Cop on Day 2?
Why did you protect him Day 1?"It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill with rope and a slim majority."
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1. I was debating how best to use the power - my theory had become scum would want to use it as a claim for town points so would tend to shoot scummy people - not claimed cops. I didn't see much value in trying to predict 'the towniest scummy person' so didn't.
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Kill: Peregrine
Dayvig: Peregrine
Murder: Peregrine
Assassinate: Peregrine
Vigkill: Peregrine
Vig: Peregrine
Eliminate: PeregrineI'm a hoot
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@dram
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Niether of you commented on Pere calling me Daydoc prior to my claims. Thoughts on me calling this a scumtell? Does that seem a surprising leap suggesting inside knowledge of some aspect of the game mechanic, or was I an obv. Daycop?-
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*Daydoc, even - sorry, my mind apparently accepts Daycops and Dayvigs more readily than Day docs.-
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you werent obv from my perspective. Under the assumption your role is factual Peregrine is pretty obv town.I'm a hoot
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Wait - if my role is factual he's obv. town? What am I missing and why are you targeting him?-
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obv scum is what i meant. playing RL mafia here, stuff gets confused in my head.I'm a hoot
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