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Post Post #1350 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2016 8:48 am

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What happened to dropping the ABR scumread?
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Post Post #1351 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2016 9:04 am

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In post 1350, SirCakez wrote:What happened to dropping the ABR scumread?
I believe there's a middle ground between scum-reading someone and trusting them implicitly. Though, as we've already clarified, we never had a big-red-flag scum read on him, we just thought he was being unnecessarily trollish. He's become a little more transparent since then, and seems more likely town.

Either way, I don't think we should completely trust
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Post Post #1352 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2016 9:07 am

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shit I quoted the wrong post
In post 1316, yellowbaron wrote:Tbh Cakez if you flip town just gonna blacklist because this is by far the furthest from reality scumread I've ever had to explain.

If you're scum then gj playing the frustration game.
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Post Post #1353 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2016 9:08 am

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In post 1345, yellowbaron wrote:To clarify, AtE stands for "appeal to emotion". While rb enjoys passionate language, he's hardly made an emotional appeal to Cakez or town in general. Jumping in to fan the flames saying "ya, ya, AtE, must be scum" is pretty scummy in itself.

Does this look like scum encouraging TvT to anyone else?

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Post Post #1354 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2016 9:08 am

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Post Post #1355 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2016 9:20 am

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In post 1330, Shiro wrote:Actually simple way to verify it.

Is anyone else in the game here a mage? I am a mage, if more exist then more than one assasin rogues are a thing. If not then things will take an interesting turn here.
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Post Post #1356 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2016 9:22 am

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VOTE: yellowbaron

Threatening to blacklist someone for scumreading you seems kind of sketchy to me.
Much more than kind of, actually.
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Post Post #1357 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2016 9:34 am

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In post 1356, Radical Rat wrote:VOTE: yellowbaron

Threatening to blacklist someone for scumreading you seems kind of sketchy to me.
Much more than kind of, actually.
Why do you think impolite behavior is scummy? What's the motivation for scum to alienate themselves? It's not ideal for either scum or town, TBH. I mean, if you're just groping for a reason to vote someone, then have at it. You can be first on the policy wagon, and hope for traction. If you were town, this wouldn't be very effective scum hunting.

I do appreciate your contribution to help us deliberate on ABR's read, though. It was very generous of you.

VOTE: Radical Rat

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Post Post #1358 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2016 9:43 am

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Alienating yourself could get you ignored.
And when you're being ignored, you can coast.

I'm not groping here. I haven't liked you from the beginning, and now I actually have something concrete to go off of.
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Post Post #1359 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2016 9:45 am

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Post Post #1360 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2016 9:48 am

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In post 1357, yellowbaron wrote:
In post 1356, Radical Rat wrote:VOTE: yellowbaron

Threatening to blacklist someone for scumreading you seems kind of sketchy to me.
Much more than kind of, actually.
Why do you think impolite behavior is scummy? What's the motivation for scum to alienate themselves? It's not ideal for either scum or town, TBH. I mean, if you're just groping for a reason to vote someone, then have at it. You can be first on the policy wagon, and hope for traction. If you were town, this wouldn't be very effective scum hunting.

I do appreciate your contribution to help us deliberate on ABR's read, though. It was very generous of you.

VOTE: Radical Rat

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What do you mean by help you deliberate on ABR's read?

I don't feel rat is groping for a read here, I feel like it is tunneling based on a gut read and trying to find anything you do scummy because of it.
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Post Post #1361 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2016 9:52 am

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Where are my sheep votes on Masq?
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Post Post #1362 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2016 9:53 am

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In post 1360, Motoko and Scully wrote:
In post 1357, yellowbaron wrote:
In post 1356, Radical Rat wrote:VOTE: yellowbaron

Threatening to blacklist someone for scumreading you seems kind of sketchy to me.
Much more than kind of, actually.
Why do you think impolite behavior is scummy? What's the motivation for scum to alienate themselves? It's not ideal for either scum or town, TBH. I mean, if you're just groping for a reason to vote someone, then have at it. You can be first on the policy wagon, and hope for traction. If you were town, this wouldn't be very effective scum hunting.

I do appreciate your contribution to help us deliberate on ABR's read, though. It was very generous of you.

VOTE: Radical Rat

~boring
What do you mean by help you deliberate on ABR's read?

I don't feel rat is groping for a read here, I feel like it is tunneling based on a gut read and trying to find anything you do scummy because of it.
I suppose that's a possibility. Seems a little less likely, though. There's something disingenuous about the whole thing. Anyway, ABR says Rat is scum. He seems pretty dang confident about it. Their interaction certainly got Rat on my radar, and this was another ping. It's enough for me for now.

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Post Post #1363 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2016 9:58 am

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@100 Percent Ego - can you please upload an avatar?
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Post Post #1364 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2016 10:01 am

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Just to annoy the shit out of you-no
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Post Post #1365 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2016 10:03 am

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In post 1345, yellowbaron wrote:To clarify, AtE stands for "appeal to emotion". While rb enjoys passionate language, he's hardly made an emotional appeal to Cakez or town in general. Jumping in to fan the flames saying "ya, ya, AtE, must be scum" is pretty scummy in itself.

Does this look like scum encouraging TvT to anyone else?


~boring
What did you mean with the thing I just bolded?
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Post Post #1366 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2016 10:14 am

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In post 1365, Masquerade wrote:
In post 1345, yellowbaron wrote:To clarify, AtE stands for "appeal to emotion". While rb enjoys passionate language, he's hardly made an emotional appeal to Cakez or town in general. Jumping in to fan the flames saying "ya, ya, AtE, must be scum" is pretty scummy in itself.

Does this look like scum encouraging TvT to anyone else?


~boring
What did you mean with the thing I just bolded?
It seemed like TBB was contributing nothing, just fanning the flames. I'm pretty sure Cakez is town, and I'm pretty sure I am. Before jumping head first down the "TBB is trying to exacerbate things" path, I thought I'd ask to see what others thought.

It was in response to this post, btw
Spoiler:
In post 1344, The Bieber Brothers wrote:hooray my scumreads are gaining traction
In post 1313, Foxbeebirdboy wrote:
is anyone in Antiva against being the warden?
we are
In post 1315, yellowbaron wrote:
In post 1309, SirCakez wrote:
yellowbaron wrote:
In post 1303, rb wrote:This case is actually so shit and it's painful because I think you're probably town.

1. 100 Percent was doing practically fucking nothing at the time I voted them. Look at their ISO up to post 700 - they started producing real content AFTER my vote. So no, from my POV they actually had shitall other content.

2. "Hopping around"? Dumbest thing I've ever had to explain. Look at the chronology of wher
e my votes fall in relation to people's content and the reasons I do or don't unvote.

If I was "looking for something to stick" there's been multiple easy wagons for me to get on and I didn't. But somehow I'm not getting on them.

I'm not scumreading you Cakez, so please don't be such a shitlord and waste any more of mine and yours time with this case.
Wrong account.
1. Ok I'll give you this. But the "emote reaction iz bad!" doesn't tie into that.
2. You've been on some easy wagons. You jumped on Masq who was being wagoned for no reason, ABR for "trolling". But you're avoiding voting Vedith because ???

also Masq, 50 pages is nothing in a large day 1 lol

P-edit: you aren't sticking to any of your scumreads, so no, it doesn't make sense.
Are you fucking high?

I voted ABR for his trolling and lack of content, then realised I didn't like that vote. He then started posting content and stopped trolling, why would I vote him when I see no problem?

Your first point is fucking circular. I'm not on another easy wagon so therefore...I'm looking for an easy wagon? My votes been on the same person for the last 10 pages at least.

Go read my actual posts or fuck off with this bullshit.
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Post Post #1367 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2016 10:18 am

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In post 1351, yellowbaron wrote:
In post 1350, SirCakez wrote:What happened to dropping the ABR scumread?
I believe there's a middle ground between scum-reading someone and trusting them implicitly. Though, as we've already clarified, we never had a big-red-flag scum read on him, we just thought he was being unnecessarily trollish. He's become a little more transparent since then, and seems more likely town.

Either way, I don't think we should completely trust
anyone's
reads at this point in the game. Do you disagree?

~boring
I can understand this I guess.

Last time someone threatened to blacklist me for pushing them they were scum tho ftr
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I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup.
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Post Post #1368 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2016 10:43 am

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Catching up now. Had work emergency.
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Post Post #1369 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2016 10:50 am

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In post 1330, Shiro wrote:Actually simple way to verify it.

Is anyone else in the game here a mage? I am a mage, if more exist then more than one assasin rogues are a thing. If not then things will take an interesting turn here.
This is diffusion of power. :facepalm:
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Post Post #1370 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2016 10:53 am

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In post 1316, yellowbaron wrote:Tbh Cakez if you flip town just gonna blacklist because this is by far the furthest from reality scumread I've ever had to explain.

If you're scum then gj playing the frustration game.
Yeah, this is bad manipulation. Your trajectory has been ridiculous and Cakey has every right to call you out on it.
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Post Post #1371 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2016 10:58 am

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In post 1361, 100 Percent Ego wrote:Where are my sheep votes on Masq?
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VOTE: Masq
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Post Post #1372 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2016 11:02 am

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VOTE: Masquerade
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Post Post #1373 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2016 11:22 am

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@yellow: I'm not sure on Cakes yet but I have ongoing reasons for thinking Bieberboys are town. So my answer is no.
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Post Post #1374 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2016 11:35 am

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In post 1370, Motoko and Scully wrote:
In post 1316, yellowbaron wrote:Tbh Cakez if you flip town just gonna blacklist because this is by far the furthest from reality scumread I've ever had to explain.

If you're scum then gj playing the frustration game.
Yeah, this is bad manipulation. Your trajectory has been ridiculous and Cakey has every right to call you out on it.
I think rb was just frustrated by the conflict with a town player. I agree that it's completely understandable for Cakez to retort. I realize I'm still learning the game, but to me, the interaction was more of a derail than a scumhunt. No votes were cast or even threatened. It should have been read as null, except maybe by Cakez because it was aimed at him, and therefore would feel more personal. Cakez didn't OMGUS, and he's de-escalated admirably. It's quite possible that the conflict is over.

So the more pressing question is, what do you think of the vultures (like Radical Rat) who were circling the conflict, waiting for another good mislynch target?

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