Mini 1560 - Reck's Walk of Shame (GAME OVER)

[AGar]

Can you walk me through your undo is scum case?

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p5815372

Update is minor, mainly that he's willing to swing to whichever wagon he can get today, while not actually sticking to any kind of hard read.

[Zdenek]

I was mainly asking Nati.

[Zdenek]

Update is minor, mainly that he's willing to swing to whichever wagon he can get today, while not actually sticking to any kind of hard read.

Sorry what's giving you that impression?

[Zdenek]

Agar, could you pick 2-3 points from your case that you think are best and tell me about why you think they are bad?
Because there are a bunch of things in there that don't really seem relevant.

[Zdenek]

I say well I have seen town do this too; you say that doesn't mean anything; I say it does. You must have seen town in the past (I have actually seen it a lot) where they are asked why they are doing what you have brought up and they say because even though the vote is in a place they think is good they don't agree for reasons of the vote etc etc.

What you are describing isn't something that I think is scummy - it's the player directly interacting with the reasons for someone's vote, rather than using the vote an an excuse to take potshots at another player, when they should be fine with the vote. That's not what Absta did.

VOTE: Doc for scummy reasoning and agreeing with CDB when there was no reason to.

What's the point of voting him here then, seriously?

I don't believe you; you specifically replied to my question about your read on Doc and CDB. You remembered saying >50% scum but not voting him?

He's aggressively attacking the timing of the vote, which is essentially irrelevant.

What the hell is this right here? You crazy bastard scum, you think you can vote Bella after thinking Doc is town?

Here he attacks Fate for changing his read on Bella. A read change that he should be fine with.

[undo]

Can you walk me through your undo is scum case?

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p5815372

I'd just like to point out I responded to each and every one of Agar's accusations in post 914.

Also, I've noticed how Agar is doing the exact same thing he accused me of: he posted one synthesis-case against me, in the same style I had used for my cases before, and is still pushing for the same case 450 posts later. I reiterate I'm almost sure Agar is town, but the fact that he's guilty of some of the same things he accuses me of should be enough to invalidate his case.

@Slandaar:

He seems town in our qt, had similar thoughts/reactions on things throughout the game particularly D1 as him etc.

Details please.

Could you please address this?

As you may have noticed, absta is at L-1, so if you have information that can potentially exonerate him and avoid a mislynch, it would be greatly appreciated if you could share it.

[Slandaar]

I really wish Slandaar had taken that time to post about relevant things, like his Absta read.

I thought I would have time in the evening yesterday but where I went had no internet access so I was unable but did intend to, will try later.

[xRECKONERx]

Official Vote Count 3.06

absta101

(4): Untrod Tripod, chamber, Zdenek, Natirasha

AGar

(2): Slandaar, absta101

chamber

(1): undo

undo

(1): AGar

Not Voting

(0):

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

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Deadline is in about ~4.5 days.

[absta101]

It doesn't matter anymore, we've won. I don't see us lynching anyone else so just hammer me.

[AGar]

Agar, could you pick 2-3 points from your case that you think are best and tell me about why you think they are bad?
Because there are a bunch of things in there that don't really seem relevant.

No. Not going to discredit my own case for you. There are probably things I could build upon but honestly I can't bother to give a shit anymore. This town is fucking itself by lynching absta over undo and no one seems to care. Literally everyone seems content to glaze over undo and just pretend he doesn't exist.

[Untrod Tripod]

hm

unvote
vote: undo

[Zdenek]

I'm not asking you to discredit your case. I just don't buy most of it and I want you to pick out a couple of things rather than go through and arguing over it.

[Untrod Tripod]

I don't care.

this game is a big bucket of dicks

can we lynch someone

[AGar]

I'm not asking you to discredit your case. I just don't buy most of it and I want you to pick out a couple of things rather than go through and arguing over it.

- Don't buy most of it.
- Don't want to go through most of it.

Riiiiiiiiighte-o

[Natirasha]

I don't care.

this game is a big bucket of dicks

can we lynch someone

VOTE: undo

[absta101]

VOTE: Undo
Let's do it.

[absta101]

L-1

[undo]

lol I don't even know why you're putting me at L-1 but OK.

I just want to reiterate I'm town, so you can start preparing your strategies accordingly.

[undo]

(I'm hoping you have one)

[Untrod Tripod]

I dunno what a strategy is

sounds like something one of those ~old school~ players would use

[Untrod Tripod]

psst hey undo who's scum

[chamber]

I'd hammer but need the zdenek block if undo is scum.

[undo]

I dunno what a strategy is

sounds like something one of those ~old school~ players would use

lol I guess.

psst hey undo who's scum

I don't know. Do you?

I was hoping Slandaar would give us some more feedback about absta, but apparently he's unwilling to do so.

[Zdenek]

I'm not asking you to discredit your case. I just don't buy most of it and I want you to pick out a couple of things rather than go through and arguing over it.

- Don't buy most of it.
- Don't want to go through most of it.

Riiiiiiiiighte-o

Uh, I read it. I don't understand what you are getting at.

[Zdenek]

If you're just intentionally omitting the word arguing from what I said to try to make a point, then I don't what to say.