micro 1096: planned idea [game over]

[HighPrincessErinys]

this game might be, truly, hell

[Black]

VOTE: Black

This one wants to team up with shaddow to try and figure out the implications of the tornado before maybe possibly killing him anyway (if Black should flip town) but for the time being Black's push on Koba is slime incarnate.

Nah, I'm just paranoid af about losing to a deepwolf. I talked myself into being somewhat convinced Koba was scum last night and then decided it's probably still just you

Cute vote though

[Black]

@margot @tris @shadow we are a voting block stronger than the 3 of HPE/Black/Flare, we can kill HPE here insteadf fwiw.

also would appreciate some words of defense, esp from margot/shadow who i have been consistently defending.

Koba is getting desperate

Now they are trying to invoke their pocket attempts to vote alongside them and save them

where did koba pocket me??

I was more referring to Margot/shaddow as possible pockets since Koba mentioned how they consistently defended them

[Black]

black i don't understand why you townread margot so much

I'm just trying to remove a 4th person from my PoE. I guess maybe I could do Margot over shaddow but I just think the way Roden got his hands dirty and then replaced out is probably unlikely to come from scum. Margot hasn't felt that bad aside from the weird locktown on Ausuka. If I don't start taking people out of my PoE I'm going to drive myself mad

[Black]

Gun to head I think scum is within {HPE; Koba}

I don't think HPE's progressions on Margot and now me make a lot of sense

And I'm not liking Koba's unvote. Seems like they are gearing to push me based on HPE pushing me which doesn't feel great. If they actually read through my town games like they say they did then they would know this type of paranoia push is common from me

One of these two is playing us. If I have to be included in the three remaining fades to get these two out then so be it

[Black]

i dont think it's hpe!

but uh, lemme try to justify that

I would love to hear why

Maybe I'm being too hasty thinking Margot/shaddow might be ok

[Black]

Fuck. Maybe it is Margot. Her play in this game feels different than 7p Wilson that just ended. There she was less sure about things, more wishy washy and uncertain. Here she seems to be taking firm stances and she seems way more confident in her reads

Also my Ausuka read was entirely because I thought she was mason, so I'm even worse at this game than I thought haha

This is pinging me pretty hard on a second glance through her ISO. It also makes sense that scum!her would think this and then kill Ausuka overnight

Mafia is hard

[Black]

@mod: can we get a prod on Margot

[Black]

I think I'm willing to trust literally everyone but FF that Koba is probably town here and if they are deepwolfing then gg I guess. I'm not going to get over my worry that they are some master manipulator and playing us but I think I could remove them from the PoE in light of looking over Margot's stuff

So scum is probably within Margot/HPE/shaddow

I think I'm actually ok going Margot today if people are willing to compromise there

[MargotRosa]

Sorry, let me get caught back up.

[Black]

VOTE: Margot

Fuck it we ball

[Black]

Impeccable timing

[Black]

Sorry, let me get caught back up.

Why did you think Ausuka was mason and who did you think she was mason with?

[MargotRosa]

I thought she was probably mason with Tris, from a few things, but particularly what I saw increasingly as the day went on as Tris confirming my theory; see the following posts (all by Tris):

90, 426, 612, 614, 624, 627, 628.

It felt less important to protect Tris than Ausuka, as the later was getting pushed hard.

The reason I stopped posting immediately was because I found HPE's progression to today a little strange, but conceded to myself that I may be overreacting to a more subtle change than I had assumed, so I was giving things time to gestate.

Fwiw, last time I post that I am getting caught up after getting a prod before having actually getting caught up, christ that was fast lol

[MargotRosa]

Also FWIW, I still think it might be HPE and Shadow's play today seems off. I still have no clue what to make of Koba, but I'm getting a clearer picture in my mind of how to read the slot

[MargotRosa]

As for why I'm more confident in this game than my last couple, I don't know what to tell you, other than that my play since coming back has been completely all over the place, and also universally bad, so I have been trying to change things up a lot game to game and see what actually works. Also, again FWIW, I don't actually feel like I've been more confident. I still feel very lost lol. I also recollect in that game mentioned being pretty certain about who was mafia day 1 and being correct

[Black]

If you thought she was masons with Tris then why did you target Tris N1? You said you wanted to have a potential clear but if you thought she was a mason then you shouldn't have felt the need to get a clear there when she could just eventually claim and clear herself

[MargotRosa]

Because I had just been proved wrong about my tris and ausuka being masons together theory with the card flip?

[Black]

Because I had just been proved wrong about my tris and ausuka being masons together theory with the card flip?

What do you mean?

[MargotRosa]

I mean that I figured it would be another way to prove in my head whether or not I was correct about everything. Because I figured there could be a use for my given role, and someone on the scum team was also a detector, if the card flipped (or not) to show Tris was not a detector, I would likely know for certain whether or not they were also a mason

[MargotRosa]

Like, if I could say, d2, definitively who was or was not, I would know that I could safely put myself on chopping block in place of either of them if it got to another dual wagon situation

[MargotRosa]

Given that my decision to save myself d1 was put under such scrutiny, I'd happily save the game the trouble on the following day if I knew who was actually worth dying for

[MargotRosa]

I was wrong on multiple counts, so it was clearly bad play, but that's why I did it

[Black]

I mean that I figured it would be another way to prove in my head whether or not I was correct about everything. Because I figured there could be a use for my given role, and someone on the scum team was also a detector, if the card flipped (or not) to show Tris was not a detector, I would likely know for certain whether or not they were also a mason

I think you were trying to say you targeted Tris because Ausuka didn't flip mason, which doesn't make any sense considering you targeted her before Ausuka flipped

[MargotRosa]

I didn't think we were even calling mason a card? I thought the cards were the weird useless roles we've all been given, and the roles are different things altogether?