Left 4 Dead Mafia - Day 6?

[ReaperCharlie]

Very interesting... well-conceived... and I can totally believe that's what the pills would be used for... Dizzy's plan seems foolproof.

Why not?

[ReaperCharlie]

I

hate

it when I start a new page and nobody knows what I'm talking about...

*shoots self in the head with Nerf dart gun*

[crypto]

Ugh.

Unvote.

[dramonic]

Unvote

[DizzyIzzyB13]

We should probably agree on who you use them on. That way, if you're scum, we don't lose a lynch.

I concur, although we may have an issue if scum kill that person overnight.

[Starbuck]

Unvote

That'd be one hell of a gambit to pull as scum.

[nhammen]

We should probably agree on who you use them on. That way, if you're scum, we don't lose a lynch.

Ummm... if he's scum, he CAN'T use them. Scum destroy items when they receive them. To do this, there would have to be a scum with this role.

[DizzyIzzyB13]

What he means is if I'm scum, the person who gets lynched because I couldn't use the pills on them would be someone of the town's choosing, not mine.

[nhammen]

What he means is if I'm scum, the person who gets lynched because I couldn't use the pills on them would be someone of the town's choosing, not mine.

Oh... duh! I'm an idiot.

What we should do is choose 4 names, and let you choose from among those 4 names. This will solve any Scum Kill issues.

Unfortunately, there is still the question of how to solve any Roleblocker issues.

[jmj3000]

Uh, Mod, you might wanna check the original post. You are missing over half the rules, namely the mechanic specific rules.

[jmj3000]

Everyone is going "Oh, Dizzy got the pills, Dizzy must be town." Uh, no, she could still be scum who got the pills and destroyed them, and she is trying to set up a mislynch for tomorrow. To quote the mod:

Regarding Socrates' questions:

- The only person who will find out who won the item is the winner. No public announcement will be made.

- In the event a power role picks up an item, they can only use one ability per night.

[/b]- Scum will be told what the item does.[/b]

- There is no limit to the effects items could have.

Bolding done by me. Dizzy's "plan" isn't anywhere near foolproof. SPS wanting us to agree who Dizzy uses the pills on just reeks of scum helping set up a way their partner can get out of trouble. Starbuck, your comment about it being a risky gambit for scum to pull is just covered in WIFOM. Charlie did his little pill grab and nameclaim, which, lo and behold, is one of the 8 main survivors.

So, with SPS offering little scumhunting of his own (seeing as a majority of his case revolves around glork's suspicions), and wanting to just give scum a big glaring target for tonight, along with seeming to give Dizzy an out in case her "recipient" dies during the night, I am going to

unvote

and

vote: SPS

, with a minor

FoS: Dizzy and Charlie

.

[jmj3000]

... I fail at tags apparently.

[DizzyIzzyB13]

If I'm lying, I'll be conclusively proven to be scum tomorrow. Town can still carry out a lynch in the meantime, since there's surely more than just the one scum left.

[jmj3000]

Sure, but only after the loss of at least 3 survivors.

[DizzyIzzyB13]

Why are you assuming that three suvivors die? Do you not trust town to lynch scum?

[jmj3000]

I'm assuming worst case scenario, so I should have said after 4 innocents die (1 from a mislynch today,two night kills, then a mislynch tomorrow). Also, I see a potentially fatal (bad choice of words, but I feel that it was theright word) flaw with your plan.

[DizzyIzzyB13]

Which is?

[The AI Director]

The Third Vote Count of Day Three

DizzyIzzyB13 (2):

almightybob, bv310

Amished (3):

DizzyIzzyB13, Steam-Powered Shovel, Charlie

Steam-Powered Shovel (3):

Amished, ReaperCharlie, jmj3000

Not voting (5):

nhammen, SaintKerrigan, crypto, dramonic, Starbuck

Deadline is in 5 days.

[jmj3000]

You really want it pointed out so scum can ruin your plan?

[Steam-Powered Shovel]

If there's a fatal flaw, then you should definitely tell us. Would you want to gamble that neither of the scum groups can manage to figure it out?

Anyway, if Izzy's scum and the plan works just as planned, all that means is that Izzy will be lynched 2 days later. That's not a bad worst case scenario.

[bv310]

Unvote, Vote: SPS

A little eager to hear how to screw this all up, aren't you?

[Steam-Powered Shovel]

So on page 54 you decide to vote for someone for not wanting to follow out a plan with a potential fatal flaw?

If jmj can figure it out, then the scum probably can too, especially since jmj has said there is one.

[jmj3000]

It relates to something Dizzy said about the pills. Go reread her post very carefully, then tell me if you see the fatal flaw in the plan.

[jmj3000]

Also, Dizzy getting lynched after two days isn't a bad worst case scenario? You are willing to sacrifice 6 survivors to catch just one scum SPS? Did you really just say something that scummy?

[DizzyIzzyB13]

I think you're seeing something that isn't there.