SWN II: The Curse of the Nekomata (Game over!)

[DocPotter]

That sounds a bit much doesn't it. Especially as the most recent the fluff makes it sound like the Nekomata is in the game as a Vig/SK

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE COUNT

DeathNote (8): LlamaFluff, SpyreX, sykedoc, Rifka Viveka, FeFiFoFum, Amished, dramonic, DocPotter
sykedoc (1): DeathNote
Not voting (12): animorpherv1, Bogre, Kairyuu, Maemuki, My Milked Eek, Parama, PoisonIvy, Pomegranate, RayFrost, Jahudo, Starbuck, wolframnhart

With

21

players alive, it takes

11

votes to lynch.

[PoisonIvy]

I fear the lynch is misguided. I take cop claims in any shape or form. Very seriously. I vill not participate in this lynch until i see a well structured case.

If DN wanted to stay alive he could have easily claimed "greek back up cop" or "american back up cop". Instead he takes a shot in the dark? LOL. Someone explain this to me? Logic it does not make.

Parama lies.

Ivy.

[Kairyuu]

@Parama:

YAY WIFOM
1. Maf may have thought a doc might have been on me
2. Maf may want to keep me alive to see if they can get me lynched

Anyways this is total WIFOM and I won't have any of it.

1. Bullshit. Any doc not on ani would have to be a complete idiot.
2. Slightly more likely, but attempting to lynch a claimed cop is an extremely risky scum move, and therefore unlikely.
3. Calling it WIFOM, besides being wrong, doesn't mean shit.

PFFFFT. DN's claim reeks. Shoot him ani.

[PoisonIvy]

*facepalm*

Vote Parama

[dramonic]

I'd give Panama less credibility on his claim if DN had actually called him out on it at the beginning of the day.

But he didn't. Which is really anti-town. It's inherently better to off DN first, since even if he IS telling the truth, he's not a cop per-se, while a misshot on Parama would be fairly more crippling.

@DocPotter: I'd think the fact the game is called

curse

of the Nekomata would kind of tip you against it being a vig...

[Parama]

PFFFFT. DN's claim reeks. Shoot him ani.

Fake-claiming a power role is basically suicide with the dayvig. Only a total idiot would be fakeclaiming a power role now <_< I believe DN's claim.

[Parama]

I fear the lynch is misguided. I take cop claims in any shape or form. Very seriously. I vill not participate in this lynch until i see a well structured case.

If DN wanted to stay alive he could have easily claimed "greek back up cop" or "american back up cop". Instead he takes a shot in the dark? LOL. Someone explain this to me? Logic it does not make.

Parama lies.

Ivy.

It means that either the Greek or the Russian mafia doesn't actually exist.
Also your post here comes off as paranoia.

[SpyreX]

I fear the lynch is misguided. I take cop claims in any shape or form. Very seriously. I vill not participate in this lynch until i see a well structured case.

If DN wanted to stay alive he could have easily claimed "greek back up cop" or "american back up cop". Instead he takes a shot in the dark? LOL. Someone explain this to me? Logic it does not make.

Parama lies.

Ivy.

Alrighty, I can dig taking "cop claims" seriously. Much like how yesterday's rabid pile of wolves attacking Parama after the claim was suspect, they need to be treated with a grain of salt.

Yet, this is a backup claim.

You know what's awesome to do with backup claims from shady players under strange circumstances? Lynch the hell out of them. On top of my not believing this for a bit, even if its true it gives some insight into what we're dealing with.

Even more interesting is the "I take cop claims very seriously." - "Protect the backup cop" - "Votes for the other claimed cop"

And by interesting I mean seriously whaa

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I want DN gone today.

However, I DO NOT want ani to shoot DN at this point. I thought we talked about this yesterday - a mafia goon is fo' sho going to claim a PR because if ani takes that shot bye-bye vig. And, of course, under normal circumstances there is a huge hesitation to lynch claimed PR's (and doubly so for cops) as is.

On the other hand, there are a few people I'd sure like to see get the rope too and having ani take a blind shot at them could end up just as bad.

Those that need los ropos:
- DN
- FFFF
- Poision Ivy
- wolf

Those people that are on the verge of becoming UNBREAKABLE:
- Rifka
- Mae

[PoisonIvy]

Mafia is a game of paranoia unless the rules changed.

@Parama. You are now against the vig of DN? Yes?

[PoisonIvy]

@SpyreX. Do you really want me to expand?

I agree 100% with you. Mae is obv. town. Ive been singing that tune since yesterday and nothing thus far has made me think otherwise.

[SpyreX]

Yes, you need to expand.

P.S. be glad ani has that bullet and not me because I probably would have shot you for that OR for asking if it needed explanation versus just explaining.

P.S.S. thats probably why I'm never allowed to be a dayvig.

[PoisonIvy]

LMAO. Yes. I am familliar with you being the most notorious would be vig ever! However im yet to witness it.

Okay well Im the

Anti Russian Insane Cop.

N1:Maemuki(claimed miller). Innocent.

Investigated Maemuki because im always wary of my sanity of when im a cop. And i liked her enough to base my results on her believing her to be an innocent post restricted miller. And by the looks of it, im insane. Re: Breadcrumbs include rambling at the start of today.
iso 12 "Dakka Vokka" - VoDka. Synomous with Russians.
iso 13. I restated my like of Maemuki.
iso 13. E BENT. - Im crooked. Oh hey im insane!

Why didnt i come out earlier? Cause frankly its a bastard game and i was planning to investigate Parama tonight and potentially having something substantial until the whole back up anti russian cop thing came out.

[LlamaFluff]

This is important, are you the "Anti Russian Insane Cop" or the "Russian Insane Cop"

[PoisonIvy]

I am the Anti Russian Mafia Cop.

[LlamaFluff]

Then im officially lost as what to do next

[Amished]

Unvote

What the hell.

ITP I'm confused and waiting for Ivy to clear her situation up.

[Amished]

Oooo, crossposted.

Well, DN was scummy as all shit; but to claim backup to a real role? I don't think that there'd be three mafia in the game (greekcop, russiancop, americanmaf-dead). With how scummy DN was, I still think he's scum. He's just Russian, hoping for there to be an actual Russian cop out there. At least that seems the most likely.

Since I've never seen a backup even get the investigations of the original; I think that part is bogus as well.

Vote: DeathNote

Not believing it.

[Maemuki]

Then im officially lost as what to do next

Isto. O DN, a princípio, está a dizer a verdade (ou isso ou é teu parceiro, Ivy, e eu duvido isso, era estúpido fazeres isso quando provavelmente vais morrer às mãos da Máfia Russa hoje à noite).

É normal haverem três máfias num só jogo?

[SpyreX]

The saddest part is I knew deep in the back of my head this would be the rationale. I should listen to those little demons that go "SpyreX, a cop is about to claim for the backup if you say this. Be warned"

How does that = Panaramalammadingdong is lying?
Remember, you could also be naive. Or its some bizarro-miller or ????.

As it sits, le sigh. I don't know if untangling the gordian-cop-knot is worth it at this point.

And now i'm interested in llama's new line of questioning.

[LlamaFluff]

And now i'm interested in llama's new line of questioning.

Parama had claimed specifically anti-greek Mafia cop. The "anti" and "mafia" are not all that common in cop roles, even specific faction ones.

Was just a hope that PI would confirm a lying cop without realizing it.

[Amished]

@mae: No, it's not normal to have 3 scumgroups. Though this is advertised as a bastard mod game, so take "normal" as whatever you like.

2 and an SK is so-so; but the more scum in the game the harder it is to balance. 3 requires too much crosskilling (in my "as a mod" viewpoint) to really be able to rely on that as a balance mechanism. Unfortunately, nobody said it had to be perfectly balanced or there's easily something out there that I don't know that makes it balanced.

[LlamaFluff]

@Mae - Also three mafia-scum groups is rare, its even up in the air if there are three anti-town killing groups (scum-scum-SK as opposed to scum-scum/SK-vig) or not after the Anon death. Fishy got killed by two anti-town factions though so there are at least two.

[SpyreX]

I think its fairly safe to say those kills were all anti-town. Or it damn well better be.

Claiming backup as russian goon is a tech move. It eitehr gets you shot by the vig dampening him or gets the cop to be your vehement defender.

However, it also works just like that if its the truth.

I'm not amused.

[PoisonIvy]

@Amished. Eh... What else is it you would like me to expand upon? Ive blown all subtly to the wind at this stage is there any need for more explanation?> I thought it would be obvious why i'd prefer to keep DN alive than Parama. Though i wouldnt rule Parama out as maybe being town... This is a bastard game unless im mistaken. But the DN lynch is wrong imho. Were he scum why wouldnt he claim american back up cop or greek back up cop? Something that had already flipped. Alerting the town to a third scumparty is logical? (WIFOMie i know but were i Russian scumDN i wouldnt)

This. The DN, the principle is telling the truth (or that or is your partner, Ivy, and I doubt it, it was stupid doings when you will probably die at the hands of Russian Mafia tonight).

It is normal they had three gangs in one game?

Lol. Yeah SypreX i was trying to make that subtle hint but if you hadnt caught on i dont think many other people would have and it woulda been coaxed out eventually. Im just hoping there is a doctor and far be it for me to be considered greedy but that they protect me.

Parama is lying may have been spoken too soon. That i can relent on. But I dont see DN as lying. The only possiblity is that he is Russian scum but i dont see why he would claim that. But im always willing to be proved wrong.