Team Mafia 2023 Open: Mafia Topic

[Alisae]

I still want to kill mith today

[jjh927]

It won't happen

[jjh927]

It can't happen. We can't win the game in this day phase.

[Alisae]

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[jjh927]

How do you see us pivoting Menalque or Bella there right now?

[jjh927]

Like, even just one of them

How do we get them to go from "I'm not 100% sure whether it's Ythan or jjh but I am probably going to vote jjh" to . . . "Nah let's just vote mith today"

[Alisae]

If we can convince them the guilty is not real, we can convince them that it doesn't matter and that if they think it must be ythan lld mith, it doesn't matter which one gets voted out so vote mith

[jjh927]

I think at this point we can only shift someone's opinion so much before there's whiplash. Even if we could pull it off they have their team mafia teams to point out just how different this end result is than the thing they are thinking about right now- or in other words, point out that it's insane

Not enough time on deadline to go through the whole spectrum of things inbetween these two stances

[Alisae]

i don't know town ali has given up and just wants to vote mith for the rest of the game

[jjh927]

i don't know town ali has given up and just wants to vote mith for the rest of the game

Okay I'll give town!Ali a chance then. I looked back at these reasons but none of them particularly work for you

-Ythan has a cop inno on LLD so can't lim LLD before Ythan
-Can't decide between jjh927 and Ythan but can see mith scum in all scenarios

That second one needs a convincing case. Shout out when you come up with anything else

-Gives town!Ythan another night to get results in the scum!jjh scenario as scum won't want to pop open the 1v1

-Has as much chance of ending the game if a mislim as any other lim (not at all true but we can say it anyway)

[jjh927]

I guess "He's a vig and probably shoots a townie he can get away with shooting even if we hit scum and that's why he was trying to get everyone's opinions on who to shoot" is another good reason. Scum get to decide who to NK and who to vig and whoever's left will be people who are like "Yeah I'd have voted that guy anyway"

[Alisae]

tbh i think people expect you to be more guns blazing slam to the wall nsg like casing people or is this wrong

[jjh927]

As in, in terms of my meta?

[Alisae]

probably

[jjh927]

I don't have the effort for big cases any more.
I don't have meta for replacing in any more either

My lategame generally involves a combination of mech/gamestate based solve combined with strong reads, which is what I'm doing here. My earlygame typically begins with a lazy and relatively laid-back gut heavy approach to try and find the easiest scum to elim in day 1, and either takes a "pushing the first domino" line of voting that easiest scum elim and watching it become inevitable, or then pivots into a more involved game to try and figure out who else might be scum.

[jjh927]

One thing to consider is that town!me doesn't end up in lategames this fucked

[Alisae]

ya usually im the person that cases things but i just don't give a fuck i already posted tons already

[jjh927]

and I haven't rolled scum in like 2 years so neither does scum!me I guess

[Alisae]

One thing to consider is that town!me doesn't end up in lategames this fucked

this lategame is so fucked we really did fuck around and find out last night

[jjh927]

I love how Ythan just can't help herself

[jjh927]

I think leaving things there is good for mena or bella to come back to

[Alisae]

user jjh927 is convinced

[jjh927]

If you say something and someone else goes
"That was very convincing"
other people will be more likely to agree

[Alisae]

oh ok

[Alisae]

I find it funny because Andante was also like "I'm convinced!" as she hammered imaginality into the ground