Mature Mafia: Game Over

Talitha · Post Post #1275 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2008 11:47 pm

The point is this: how did Macros even know it was a kill? Of course he might've guessed, but if he was guessing I'm saying it would have taken some time for him to get his head around it. zu Faul apparently didn't make it very clear that he was killed (said something like "I have been eliminated". For all we knew at that point it could have been bastard moddery or ANYTHING). But Macros knew immediately it was a night kill.

Talitha · Post Post #1276 (ISO) » Sun Aug 24, 2008 11:51 pm

And, he didn't just realise it was a kill (like Elvis did, for example), he was confident enough to immediately edit the death post stating that the death was murder.

Werebear · Post Post #1277 (ISO) » Mon Aug 25, 2008 1:53 am

Yeah, Phoebus was fatalistic. He hated this game, and didn't feel like playing any more. It was immediately after he sought a replacement.

Tell me, who hates this game more, townies or mafia? As town, let me tell you, more than a few times I wish I had never agreed to substitute in. A modless game with no cops or docs? If I were mafia, I think I'd be having a riot with how stupid the town is. I really loved the first "town-mafia only" game, where I was mafia. Something about a pond, the mafia were stones. It's not nearly as much fun on the other side.

I suppose that's one reason why I don't suspect Macros as much. I couldn't imagine a mafia - someone who pretty much holds control over everything - wanting out of this game.

Anyways, back to my accuser. So, the reason I'm scummy is because the person I replaced wanted out of this cursed dumb frustrating game, and because I was trying to see how the town could wring a victory out of the worst-case scenario, to the point where I suggested something that violates the rules that were never set down by the mod anyways.

Guilty as charged, on both counts. Now, does that make me scum, or town? You decide. If I didn't hate weasels who give up, I'd give up, let the scum lynch me, and be done with this.

armlx · Post Post #1278 (ISO) » Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:16 am

Tali: When I first skimmed the game, long before I replaced, I assumed it was an NK.

Werebear: The who hates the game logic is dumb.

And you are guilty because the person you replaced was blatantly opportunistic at times.

nonny · Post Post #1279 (ISO) » Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:26 am

When i first read the game I assumed it was a NK too. It's day one, it's most likely a night kill.

The thought on it being a vanilla game wasn't assumed till later, but now i'm pretty confidant this has to be a vanilla game in order to work.

Talitha · Post Post #1280 (ISO) » Mon Aug 25, 2008 4:52 pm

I know what you are both saying but does that mean that my point has absolutely no merit?

Adel · Post Post #1281 (ISO) » Mon Aug 25, 2008 5:13 pm

can we get a vote count, and like more voting please?

nonny · Post Post #1282 (ISO) » Mon Aug 25, 2008 5:22 pm

It would have some merit if it had a bigger case around it, right now it just seems like grasping at straws to me.

Talitha · Post Post #1283 (ISO) » Mon Aug 25, 2008 5:55 pm

Your opinion doesn't count, sorry.

nonny · Post Post #1284 (ISO) » Mon Aug 25, 2008 6:15 pm

Talitha wrote:I know what you are both saying but does that mean that my point has absolutely no merit?

oh i thought you were addressing me and armlx

armlx · Post Post #1285 (ISO) » Mon Aug 25, 2008 7:58 pm

Tally- 1 (Adel)
logictus- 1 (Tally)
werebear- 2 (DGB, armlx)
axel- 1 (nonny)
DGB- 1 (werebear)

(Axel, Logictus)

8 alive, 5 to lynch

I notice Axel has kept his vote chilling nowhere this whole time.

Talitha · Post Post #1286 (ISO) » Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:59 pm

I sort of was, nonny, but only because you two were the only ones to comment. But of course, your opinion still doesn't mean anything in this instance.

I would probably vote nonny, but no-one else is, so I guess I'll just go back to the re-read.

armlx · Post Post #1287 (ISO) » Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:32 am

I would probably vote nonny, but no-one else is, so I guess I'll just go back to the re-read.

Why is that a reason not to vote someone?

Werebear · Post Post #1288 (ISO) » Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:40 am

Heh, what if the scum group were axel and Logictus, and they're waiting for someone to get to 3 so they can pounce?

I really don't have any new thoughts, not much as been posted (again), but I'm checking in so you know I'm not MIA

armlx · Post Post #1289 (ISO) » Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:53 am

Heh, what if the scum group were axel and Logictus, and they're waiting for someone to get to 3 so they can pounce?

To be fair they could be voting someone then pounce, but if they weren't voting in the first place its easier to explain their vote if something goes wrong.

logicticus · Post Post #1290 (ISO) » Tue Aug 26, 2008 5:39 am

I find it interesting that there has been a lot of heat on nonny lately and yet she has nobody voting for her, does this mean people truly dont believe she is scum?

Adel · Post Post #1291 (ISO) » Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:18 pm

Adel wrote:
Adel wrote:meh, I didn't get want I wanted out of that exchange.

I was hoping for a huge scumtell, but I don't see it.

unvote, vote:Nonny

still the best case from my perspective.
my vote is on Nonny, from this post.

Corrected Vote Count

nonny- 1 (armlx, Adel)
logictus- 1 (Tally)
werebear- 1 (DGB)
axel- 1 (nonny)

(Axel, Logictus, Werebear)

8 alive, 5 to lynch

were there any other mistakes?

My vote hasn't changed since this post. WTF?

armlx · Post Post #1292 (ISO) » Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:06 pm

logictus- 1 (Tally)
werebear- 2 (DGB, armlx)
axel- 1 (nonny)
DGB- 1 (werebear)
nonny-1 (Adel)

(Axel, Logictus)

8 alive, 5 to lynch

Fixed. I updated from the last VC, which was wrong.

Adel · Post Post #1293 (ISO) » Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:09 pm

logicticus wrote:I find it interesting that there has been a lot of heat on nonny lately and yet she has nobody voting for her, does this mean people truly dont believe she is scum?

I am voting for her, I believe she is scum.
It seems so obvious to me that if she were town then scum would be on her wagon with me, but here I am, all alone, sitting in a wagon built for 5.

armlx · Post Post #1294 (ISO) » Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:39 pm

That "If she was town, more people would vote her" sounds really close to WIFOM IMHO.

Adel · Post Post #1295 (ISO) » Tue Aug 26, 2008 3:55 pm

armlx wrote:That "If she was town, more people would vote her" sounds really close to WIFOM IMHO.

WIFOM? So you think that scum aren't pushing for a Nonny mislynch so that we will think that she is scum because there isn't a serious wagon on her and mislynch her without their help?

I also see that your vote is on Werebear, along with DGB's. Why do you think the case against Werebear is stronger than the case against Nonny? IIRC, you began this day with a vote on Nonny, why aren't you voting for her now? It looks like it may be scum distancing to me, and now you want no part of her wagon because you don't really want to see her get lynched.

Adel · Post Post #1296 (ISO) » Tue Aug 26, 2008 3:57 pm

not to mention that twice now you have "accidently" left off my vote on Nonny. Twice.

armlx · Post Post #1297 (ISO) » Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:07 pm

not to mention that twice now you have "accidently" left off my vote on Nonny. Twice.

I copy pasted my last VC and just skimmed for votes since then. This is a clear attempt to spin my actions as anything other then lazy like most mods doing VCs.

I also see that your vote is on Werebear, along with DGB's. Why do you think the case against Werebear is stronger than the case against Nonny? IIRC, you began this day with a vote on Nonny, why aren't you voting for her now?

I feel Phoebus's actions were worse then Macros's.

WIFOM? So you think that scum aren't pushing for a Nonny mislynch so that we will think that she is scum because there isn't a serious wagon on her and mislynch her without their help?

Wouldn't it then be too obvious if there were all these votes there?

Adel · Post Post #1298 (ISO) » Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:16 pm

armlx wrote:
not to mention that twice now you have "accidently" left off my vote on Nonny. Twice.
I copy pasted my last VC and just skimmed for votes since then. This is a clear attempt to spin my actions as anything other then lazy like most mods doing VCs.

I also see that your vote is on Werebear, along with DGB's. Why do you think the case against Werebear is stronger than the case against Nonny? IIRC, you began this day with a vote on Nonny, why aren't you voting for her now?
I feel Phoebus's actions were worse then Macros's.

WIFOM? So you think that scum aren't pushing for a Nonny mislynch so that we will think that she is scum because there isn't a serious wagon on her and mislynch her without their help?
Wouldn't it then be too obvious if there were all these votes there?

Out of 40 games a mod has

never

ignored my vote twice.
I can only think of a couple of times when my vote has been ignored at all.

What are the differences between Coron's faults and Phoebus's again? None?

I'm tempted to think that we aren't really in lynch or lose because there hasn't been a strong wagon.

armlx · Post Post #1299 (ISO) » Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:19 pm

What are the differences between Coron's faults and Phoebus's again? None?

Phoebus was on the Mathcam wagon, to say the least.

I'm tempted to think that we aren't really in lynch or lose because there hasn't been a strong wagon.

I'm tempted to think we are b/c of balance reasons.