Mini Theme 1588 - FTL: Faster Than Light - Game Over!

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1275 (ISO) » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:01 am

Also JUST SO YOU KNOW, if I was actually scum gambiting about all of this, why the fuck would I recruit a third person into the neighborhood so they could read my claim and know I claimed third party? If I was SERIOUSLY scum gambiting some stupid fucking elaborate survivor neighborizer claim, I would've just left it at me/hito and manipulated him... there'd be absolutely no reason for me to claim that I needed to neighborize three people, there'd be no reason for me to add someone else to our neighborhood and risk my information getting out (like it did with Juls), I could've just claimed "1-Shot Neighborizing Survivor" and been done with it and probably had hito trust it and roll with me all game until I killed him before LyLo.

Yeah, it's self-meta, but this gambit does not fucking make sense as scum, ESPECIALLY SINCE I'VE BEEN SETTING UP FOR IT LONG BEFORE THE REST OF THE SCUM GOT RAILROADED

Juls · Post Post #1276 (ISO) » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:03 am

I'm trying to understand you is all. But I don't care if you vote me. If the rest of town can't tell that I am bleeding green right now we are screwed anyway.

Venmar · Post Post #1277 (ISO) » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:03 am

I really don't care Reck. You're telling me that you blew off your wincon to to depend on getting Hito's feedback.

But just out of curiosity, why wouldn't it have mattered because Fishy die that night?

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1278 (ISO) » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:04 am

Because he wouldn't have ever been neighborized?

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1279 (ISO) » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:04 am

Hm. Well, I assume my neighborizer wouldn't resolve if the target is dead. I don't know, actually. Good question.

Venmar · Post Post #1280 (ISO) » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:04 am

But you neighborized Hito and got to talk to him before N1 ended?

Juls · Post Post #1281 (ISO) » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:05 am

I'm going to vote hito after Pasch weighs in and I hope she shoots reck. If it's you Venmar. Well done at backing your way into poe.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1282 (ISO) » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:05 am

In post 1277, Venmar wrote:I really don't care Reck. You're telling me that you blew off your wincon to to depend on getting Hito's feedback.

But just out of curiosity, why wouldn't it have mattered because Fishy die that night?

"blew off my wincon"?

I had to carefully assess some shit. I had to figure out how to keep hito happy to stay on good terms with him. Plus, if hito was town, why not try to keep tagging town? I had to consider who I was letting into my QT, because they'd be able to read all of the shenanigans and might out me like HURRRRRRRR JULS DID

PEDIT: no what the fuck are you saying, I didn't get to talk to hito until D2

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1283 (ISO) » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:06 am

In post 1281, Juls wrote:I'm going to vote hito after Pasch weighs in and I hope she shoots reck. If it's you Venmar. Well done at backing your way into poe.

NO.

PASCH SHOULDN'T SHOOT FUCKING ANYBODY BECAUSE THAT'S AN AUTO LOSS IF WE'RE WRONG ABOUT HITO.

Pasch should not do a goddamn thing tonight if the game continues.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1284 (ISO) » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:07 am

Wait hold on, is it?

3-1-1 right now... if hito is town, it's 2-1-1... if Pasch + Scum kill different people (which they will because scum will just shoot Pasch) then it's game over

Juls · Post Post #1285 (ISO) » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:07 am

Lol neighborizing me is so stupid reck. I don't gambit and I am always paranoid so it was a bad choice. Why not neighborize Venmar who is way more laid back?

Venmar · Post Post #1286 (ISO) » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:07 am

In post 1228, xRECKONERx wrote:hito & I get townvibes off of each other D1. I neighborize him. Cool.

In order to do a reaction test when we get our QT, I claim traitor to him. He laughs and keeps asking me about my role until he finds a way to say, "I think it is literally anti-town to try and lynch you" so that he doesn't have to assume responsibility. I do not die N1, hito does not die N1. Alright, moving on...

This timeline suggests you talked to him before D2?

Juls · Post Post #1287 (ISO) » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:08 am

It's game over if Pasch shoots wrong. If she shoots right we win.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1288 (ISO) » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:09 am

@Juls: You were participating, Venmar wasn't.

@Venmar: No, sorry, I ... actually wait, I'm an idiot. That theory would mean hito didn't kill me N1 because I thought he was town, I guess. I don't fucking know anymore and I feel like if I keep talking through this I'm going to eventually get it right which is AGAINST MY WIN CONDITION BECAUSE

FUCK YOU IZZY FOR GIVING ME THIS ROLE. LOST SEASON 2 WAS NOT WORTH THIS BULLSHIT GODDAMMIT.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1289 (ISO) » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:10 am

In post 1287, Juls wrote:It's game over if Pasch shoots wrong. If she shoots right we win.

Or... and bear with me now... OR it's possibly game over without group discussion if Pasch shoots at all, and it's NOT game over and we get a chance for group discussion if Pasch just DOES NOT SHOOT.

Given Pasch's shots this game, are you seriously, as town, trusting in his ability to shoot correctly

Juls · Post Post #1290 (ISO) » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:12 am

Mod: do kills resolve simultaneously?

Venmar · Post Post #1291 (ISO) » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:13 am

Wait, did you just cleverly find a way to not answer my question?

Juls · Post Post #1292 (ISO) » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:14 am

In post 1289, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 1287, Juls wrote:It's game over if Pasch shoots wrong. If she shoots right we win.

Or... and bear with me now... OR it's possibly game over without group discussion if Pasch shoots at all, and it's NOT game over and we get a chance for group discussion if Pasch just DOES NOT SHOOT.

Given Pasch's shots this game, are you seriously, as town, trusting in his ability to shoot correctly

We are at 5 now, we lynch to 4, scum kills to 3. If neither is you then we are 1v1v1 assuming you are survivor. If you really are a traitor (like you first claimed) then we lose. If you want scum to win, we lose. I don't trust you to be on the side of town.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1293 (ISO) » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:14 am

No, I said I didn't speak to him N1.

I neighborized him N1, I didn't even get a confirmation from the mod, so my first post is me just going "...hito?" sometime D2.

My thought process of why hito and myself are both alive didn't come from him knowing I'm a traitor, it came from me calling him town all of D1. The traitor fakeclaim didn't happen until D2.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1294 (ISO) » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:15 am

In post 1292, Juls wrote:
In post 1289, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 1287, Juls wrote:It's game over if Pasch shoots wrong. If she shoots right we win.

Or... and bear with me now... OR it's possibly game over without group discussion if Pasch shoots at all, and it's NOT game over and we get a chance for group discussion if Pasch just DOES NOT SHOOT.

Given Pasch's shots this game, are you seriously, as town, trusting in his ability to shoot correctly

We are at 5 now, we lynch to 4, scum kills to 3. If neither is you then we are 1v1v1 assuming you are survivor. If you really are a traitor (like you first claimed) then we lose. If you want scum to win, we lose. I don't trust you to be on the side of town.

Assuming hito is town, you also lose if you shoot me, because I AM A SURVIVOR.

Are you bad at math? Like really this bad? Hold on.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1295 (ISO) » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:17 am

In post 1292, Juls wrote:
In post 1289, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 1287, Juls wrote:It's game over if Pasch shoots wrong. If she shoots right we win.

Or... and bear with me now... OR it's possibly game over without group discussion if Pasch shoots at all, and it's NOT game over and we get a chance for group discussion if Pasch just DOES NOT SHOOT.

Given Pasch's shots this game, are you seriously, as town, trusting in his ability to shoot correctly

We are at 5 now, we lynch to 4, scum kills to 3. If neither is you then we are 1v1v1 assuming you are survivor. If you really are a traitor (like you first claimed) then we lose. If you want scum to win, we lose. I don't trust you to be on the side of town.

JULS. Are you honestly suggestion the setup is 4-9!?

That's what it would be if I was a traitor in this above bullshit.

IF I AM A TRAITOR, then the game is over regardless if hito is town, because THIS WOULD BE LYLO, NOT MYLO.

IF I AM A SURVIVOR, then killing me means SCUM WINS, because SCUM WILL KILL PASCH WHO IS CONFIRMED TOWN.

Literally nothing you have suggested results in a town win if hito is town.

Juls · Post Post #1296 (ISO) » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:17 am

Then that means Venmar or Pasch is scum and I don't buy that.

Bella · Post Post #1297 (ISO) » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:18 am

In post 1290, Juls wrote:
Mod: do kills resolve simultaneously?

Yes.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1298 (ISO) » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:19 am

@Mod: Can players use more than one action per night?

Bella · Post Post #1299 (ISO) » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:21 am

In post 1298, xRECKONERx wrote:
@Mod: Can players use more than one action per night?

Depends on their role PM.