Mini 1490 - Chef Mafia (Game Over!)

[The Purple Plague]

D3X claims to have healed Jake yesterday but was okay going through with the kyubey lynch which was partially based on there not being a night kill AND DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

which makes sense if he's odd night
but doesn't make sense for two-shot doc

except D3 is claiming to be odd night so when kyubey was blocked by me, d3 didn't have a doc ability.

he's claiming two-shot.

town Commuter and town hider? ehhhhhhhhhhh

town commuter and town doctor don't really make sense
town doctor and town hider don't really make sense

Vote: d3x

"rank is probably his scum-buddy"
no.

[Kthxbye]

Oh, and d3x, don't try and pull a "I went with it so scum would target me last night" BS. IF you were town and IF scum were to not target PB because of your claim (which was false), they could easily have targeted someone else anyway seeing as you claimed odd night and they could just take care of you tonight (a night you were powerless anyway). So, yeah, die scum-d3x die. You should stick with killing me in games where you're scum and I'm town from now on. Might save you from my genius.

d3x: kthxbye, The PP

now, purple, you wrote:

Vote: Rank

power fits well with scumteam
his ability is most likely being able to shoot during the daytime and skipping a kill at night
ffery choosing to shoot jake N1 over Syr/Tammy/Cabd/maaaaybeevenmara is not her strategy as scum, so doc power probably didn't stop the kill

and then you wrote:

"rank is probably his scum-buddy"
no.

explain

[The Purple Plague]

two scum flipped.
why are you still looking for two more?

[Jake from State Farm]

Purple, where did d3 claim 2 shot cause I see him specifically claiming odd night.

Why dies town doc/town commuter or town hider make less sense than both commuter/ hider? They don't.

Commuter or hider with doc makes more sense considering some of the other claims. It's like the mod is fucking with us.


I'm gonna think on things and try and analyze stuff this weekend.

If intervening was an olympic sport, he'd win the gold meddle.

[Jake from State Farm]

I mean more sense.

[The Purple Plague]

I'm nut Oodd Neeght, I'm 2Shut.

[Pyrotechnics]

So could be the rb blocked the kill
Could be they no killed
Could be a doc
Could be a hider

So, this is me responding to the ordeal of kyubey has to be scum because he was blocked so must be scum.

[Pyrotechnics]

I'm zee Svedeesh Cheff, un Oodd Neeght Duc.

N1 I prutected Jeke-a.

I'm nut Cleeeming vhu I'm Prutecteeng Tuneeght. Um de hur de hur de hur.

That doesn't work because scum could have nokilled fearing a watch or track for the long game.

I feend thees oodd thet zee respunse-a is zee Scoom NKed fur feer ooff beeeng oobserfed und nut tu freme-a yuu. Hurty flurty schnipp schnipp! Thet'd be-a my 1st thuooght in yuoor puseeshun.

VOTE: Kyu

This is d3x's response. Like seriously? He's supposedly a 2-shot doc here who protected the claimed roleblocker and he doesn't actually out that he might be the reason for a blocked night kill? No, he adds to the mislynch.

D3X YOU GOT SOME SPLAINING TO DO.

[Pyrotechnics]

JUST SO YOU KNOW MY KITTEN THINKS THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT THE PURPLE PLAGUE.

thought everyone should know.

[Kthxbye]

two scum flipped.
why are you still looking for two more?

Cuz I'm chocolate flavored dumb.

Not so sure d3x pulls a move like this as scum now. That's pretty much a game ender for him. That said, scum targeting PB under the assumption d3x was going to protect him doesn't make much sense either so...

[Pyrotechnics]

For those of you more well-versed in ffery and mala's scum game, can you tell me how they are with respect to partners?

[Pyrotechnics]

It shouldn't be too hard to discern where my thoughts were on day 1. Today I still think Jake is town. I still think you are town. I am leaning town on kyubey, but it's usually later in the game when he really starts to worry me. However, Cabd didn't seem to get really stuck into the game, and that could have had something to do with the intensity of another game we were both playing that finally ended this week.

Peacebringer I'm leaning town.

Porochaz I don't feel like I really have a handle on. When I can get with mala, we'll discuss.

I don't get TSP's vote on Rank at all, which worries me. I was town reading her yesterday.

Of the votes we've picked up Kthx's looks the most opportunistic. d3x's vote looked perfunctory.

Maybe it's just me but I'm finding d3x even more difficult to understand than he was earlier.

p-edit That at least explains TSP's line of thought.

Their day two reads.

[Pyrotechnics]

o
My reads are currently:

Tammy/Syr - town.
Jake - misguided town.
Dex - town.
Kkthx - possible scum.
Rank - possible scum.
TSP - possible town.
PB - town

Amrun needs to post more.
Poro - unknown
Kycu - I'm letting Fery sort out. I'm not confident in my abilities to read C and his other head is barely posting.

The other head's day two reads.

[Pyrotechnics]

Tne doesn't give many reads, but thinks kthnx, d3x and jake are town.

I think he thinks kthnx is town anyway. He did weird French in response to d3x's question about kthnx in which I think he said kthnx was all over the place and he would help town get rid of him. But I really don't know if that was what he said.

He clarifies and says that he doesn't think scum is in the post restricted, but then he says something like that's why he's not outing d3x or jake, is missing kthnx there.

[Pyrotechnics]

Kthnxbye - how often do you let d3x live when you're scum?

[Pyrotechnics]

I though "fuck: Elyse" was you being naughty with a vote. (see p522). That said, given that Elyse was town and on the road to a mis-lynch, this pretty much makes you conf town imo.

So, I'd say 1 maybe 2 votes on Elyse are scum and if I'm not to be the lynch today, we look there first.

Elyse (4) - Jake from State Farm, The Slovak Prince, PeaceBringer, trebuchet tabby

After I flip town lynch TNE because I'm the counterwagon to him.

Also lynch Rank cause he's an asshole.

The lynching of Rank isn't happening. He's town. Scum must decide if he's x-shot or not and he will probably be killed tonight just to be safe for them.
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As far as lynching TNE maybe. ISO him. He's done piss all for the whole day. Then again, more than a few fall into this category.

He's fence-sitty with the idea of 3 post-restriction role thing (the idea I brought up about the probability of 1 of the 3 of us being scum).
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I still don't like Amrun, but seeing as there are 4 whole votes on the would-be mis-lynch wagon and at least most likely 1 maybe 2 scum votes there, that leaves us with a 25-50% chance of hitting scum if we concentrate there.

So, if I had a vote, it would switch to PB. A scum flip would make TNE town imo. Could also be persuaded to vote TSP due to being second on the wagon. Could also go with Jake seeing as I'm still not convinced town has 3 post restricted roles.

p.edit: Amrun's p536 reads town to me...dunno why. Just seems genuine not forced. So yeah, lynch PB or TSP.

Why didn't you look at tabby in this post when examining the elyse voters?

[Pyrotechnics]

Note: I left out TT because I have a very high town read on them atm

Oh answered. Nvmd.

[Pyrotechnics]

Votecount 1.15

Not Voting (4): Kyubey, Rank, trebuchet tabby,

Kthxbye

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2013-08-31 19:03:38).

Why are you guys not voting yet? You need to, now.

I will not vote Amrun today. At a push Ill vote tne, but I wont be happy.

This bothers me, but at the same time he would know that if tne ever flipped scum, this would be looked at. Partners can say something like this, but it seems kinda weak.

Oh and also, jake is saying that its unlikely for there to be a hider and a commuter. I thought that was odd as well, but poro was the last to claim, and he had all night to think about it. I'm of the mind that he would have been more careful about it if scum, so :/

[Pyrotechnics]

pyro pushed the hardest for tne's lynch. I don't he hard core bussed so yeah he's town.

Tabby/you not so much

Agreed on the Pyro read.

Jake, on the Tabby vote, you seem to have come across that suspicion very quickly. I really wouldn't mind some explanation there, because I felt she was null.

CAPS

Meh. I think he wanted explanation on the tne read also because he was null as well.

[Pyrotechnics]

two scum flipped.
why are you still looking for two more?

Cuz I'm chocolate flavored dumb.

Not so sure d3x pulls a move like this as scum now. That's pretty much a game ender for him. That said, scum targeting PB under the assumption d3x was going to protect him doesn't make much sense either so...

I was thinking about this while rereading the game and it occurred to me that scum could have a strong arm.


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Sorry for so many posts in a row.

[The Purple Plague]

JUST SO YOU KNOW MY KITTEN THINKS THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT THE PURPLE PLAGUE.

thought everyone should know.

=]

[Kthxbye]

Kthnxbye - how often do you let d3x live when you're scum?

The one time (I can recall) that I've been scum and d3x town I was a neighborizer and I actually neighbored him (ie let him live). I was an SK once while he was town and I think I let him live then too. It's hard for me to kill him off.

I've thought of only two scenarios that scum (someone not d3x) NK targets PB.

That last scum is a role cop and knew d3x was 2-shot and not odd night and bet on his shots being used N1 and N2.

I don't happen to think that the above is likely, thus d3x is scum. I just can't see a reason why not-d3x-scum would target a seemingly protected town when they know (from claims) we don't have a tracker/watcher and think (from claims) that PB is going to be protected!

I'll be interested to see what d3x says to this, but I doubt I'll be swayed.

[d3x]

I was typing this up for translation, but figured it was important enough to burn a daily on...

I can't tell you why Scum gambled on the PB shot. Maybe they thought OddNight didn't fit in with the other Claimed/Flipped 1Shot/2Shot PRs.

@Kthx- If I were Scum, why wouldn't I just set up a fake Protect to 'prove' my Claim? It sure beats the hell out of drawing a freaking huge amount of attention down on myself for something I'd know I'd catch heat for.

Regarding my Protect of Jake N1&2- I've played with him a few times and I know that he's a lot more agro. I figured he was a PR based on how much more reserved he was being. I know he said he was trying a different playstyle, but I was banking on that being the reason. I'm sorry you think you should've been Protected, but it's my Protect to dole out.

Regarding the N2 'Blocked' Kill. We had just finished Lynching Scum D1&2. D1 we Lynched correctly due to Jake's Block. There wasn't any reason to think otherwise D2. While yes, it was feasibly possible that my Protect stopped the Kill, but the same could've been said about D1. I stand behind my decision for Protect

and

not pushing against the KyuLynch.

It's late, I'm exhausted, and I have one more free pass Today if I missed anything.

[The Purple Plague]

OH HEEEYYYYY

THIS GAME

we have an asectic? That was TT's fake-claim, no?

[Kthxbye]

@Kthx- If I were Scum, why wouldn't I just set up a fake Protect to 'prove' my Claim? It sure beats the hell out of drawing a freaking huge amount of attention down on myself for something I'd know I'd catch heat for.

Why would town-you go through with the 'plan' for last night when town-you would have thought you'd be putting possible 2 town in danger over 1 since you couldn't protect?

What did you expect to happen last night with your 'fake' protect?

Also, I don't put it past you to pull a gambit like this as scum thinking you could talk your way out of it and thinking the 2 for 1 worth it. If anyone could pull it off, it's you.

Who's scum if not you?