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Foxbird · Post Post #1250 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2016 1:41 pm

Votecount 2.19

Thor665

(5) - karnos, Fire Assassin, aronagrundy, ironstove, bji

(L-1!)

LmkGuy

(1) - Lowell

Lowell

(2) - Saru, LmkGuy

bji

(3) - Nero Cain, Thor665, PenguinPower

Not Voting

(0) - No one!

With

11

players eligible to vote, it’s

6

to lynch!

Day 2 will end in

(expired on 2016-11-11 12:47:28).

Mod Notes:

Searching a replacement for LmkGuy. Still. Sigh.

bji · Post Post #1251 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2016 1:56 pm

In post 1248, PenguinPower wrote:I will agree with that point. You are definitely playing to your wincon.

Treading water while trying to look involved would be a decent way to play to a scum wincon ... and you've certainly got that nailed.

PenguinPower · Post Post #1252 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2016 2:05 pm

Yeah...sorry, still waiting for the response to my last question. Weak retort. Points lost.

bji · Post Post #1253 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2016 2:10 pm

In post 1252, PenguinPower wrote:Yeah...sorry, still waiting for the response to my last question. Weak retort. Points lost.

OK ok. You're more smug than I am. You win.

PenguinPower · Post Post #1254 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2016 2:12 pm

Haven't yet. Hoping to though.

aronagrundy · Post Post #1255 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2016 3:10 pm

Prod dodge, sorry bout it it's been s stressful couple days

ironstove · Post Post #1256 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2016 3:26 pm

DROP THE HAMMER

PenguinPower · Post Post #1257 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2016 3:29 pm

Please don't yet. I'd prefer to hear karnos' answer and we have a little less than two days left.

Fire Assassin · Post Post #1258 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2016 3:29 pm

In post 1256, ironstove wrote:DROP THE HAMMER

Stop this stuff.
You did it yesterday too.

karnos · Post Post #1259 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:35 pm

In post 1245, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 1243, karnos wrote:
In post 1242, PenguinPower wrote:
Yeah, but he hasn't spent his entire time on one person, which is my experience with scum!Thor. I could be wrong, but I like him more than you right now.
He did until he was called out on it.
Why did you jump on mal's wagon if Thor was already on it?

Because the Thor wagon wasn't going anywhere, we were near deadline, Thor could have been busing, Thor could have been town... but mal's flip reinforced my opinion of Thor being scum.

Saru · Post Post #1260 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2016 7:00 pm

Just peeking in to give

intent to hammer

.

I'll reply to Lowell and bji a bit later, been really busy recently.

Foxbird · Post Post #1261 (ISO) » Wed Nov 09, 2016 11:17 pm

MathBlade replaces in for LmkGuy!

Many thanks to them~

PenguinPower · Post Post #1262 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 1:08 am

In post 1259, karnos wrote:Because the Thor wagon wasn't going anywhere, we were near deadline, Thor could have been busing, Thor could have been town... but mal's flip reinforced my opinion of Thor being scum.

You weren't on Thor...you were on Saru - the leading wagon. Thor also hopped on mal when he was the third smallest wagon - why would he do that if he were bussing? He also switched earlier than you.

If anything, your hop onto the wagon looks worse than his.

Why did mal's flip reinforce your scum!read on Thor?

Thor665 · Post Post #1263 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 1:24 am

In post 1260, Saru wrote:Just peeking in to give
intent to hammer
.

I actually find the case on me so offensive that I'm going to refuse to claim.
I am a PR - but since you guys don't even have a case, I want to teach you a lesson about what you're doing.

My prediction is scum bji/Karnos at the very least - along with a bunch of town too dense to notice that there isn't actually a reason to think I'm scum outside of the most vague connective hoo-hah type cases.

Hammer away, slappy.

Thor665 · Post Post #1264 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 1:29 am

I'll claim if Iron and Saru describe the case on me - I already know what to expect from Bji, and Karnos gave his "case" so hopefully people can look at that later and understand how bad it is (Thor voted someone....Ooooooh, SCUMMY!)

karnos · Post Post #1265 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:55 am

In post 1263, Thor665 wrote:
In post 1260, Saru wrote:Just peeking in to give
intent to hammer
.
I actually find the case on me so offensive that I'm going to refuse to claim.
I am a PR - but since you guys don't even have a case, I want to teach you a lesson about what you're doing.

My prediction is scum bji/Karnos at the very least - along with a bunch of town too dense to notice that there isn't actually a reason to think I'm scum outside of the most vague connective hoo-hah type cases.

Hammer away, slappy.

1- Refuses to claim.

2- Is playing against win condition if town, to teach us a lesson.

3- Calls me scum. Sorry Thor, checked my role PM, you are still wrong.

This is scum. Please hammer him.

karnos · Post Post #1266 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 3:03 am

In post 1262, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 1259, karnos wrote:Because the Thor wagon wasn't going anywhere, we were near deadline, Thor could have been busing, Thor could have been town... but mal's flip reinforced my opinion of Thor being scum.
You weren't on Thor...you were on Saru - the leading wagon. Thor also hopped on mal when he was the third smallest wagon - why would he do that if he were bussing? He also switched earlier than you.

If anything, your hop onto the wagon looks worse than his.

Why did mal's flip reinforce your scum!read on Thor?

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p8449770 Thor/Saru were my main picks for scum. They both still are, but Thor has moved up a notch and has a viable wagon while Saru doesn't.

As to why it solidified my scum read of Thor, re-read this page: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... &start=750

Thor was pushing the wagon and convinced me to ignore my hesitations, such as the fact that lynching a lurker would cause us to miss out on a claim & reads.

FWIW, Nero was the one who started the wagon. Nero/Saru team isn't out of the question, but I think it's just as likely that scum!Nero might divert a wagon away from town Saru so we can misslynch Saru later. TBH if we could just lynch Thor, Nero, & Saru I'm fairly confident 2 of the 3 will flip red.

Thor is the lynch for today, it's too late to second guess.

Lowell · Post Post #1267 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 3:04 am

I'll also hammer if scum-saru gets cold feet. FTR I still don't think Thor is scum though, would have been better to get saru or lmk today.

PenguinPower · Post Post #1268 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 3:32 am

In post 1265, karnos wrote:
In post 1263, Thor665 wrote:
In post 1260, Saru wrote:Just peeking in to give
intent to hammer
.
I actually find the case on me so offensive that I'm going to refuse to claim.
I am a PR - but since you guys don't even have a case, I want to teach you a lesson about what you're doing.

My prediction is scum bji/Karnos at the very least - along with a bunch of town too dense to notice that there isn't actually a reason to think I'm scum outside of the most vague connective hoo-hah type cases.

Hammer away, slappy.
1- Refuses to claim.

2- Is playing against win condition if town, to teach us a lesson.

3- Calls me scum. Sorry Thor, checked my role PM, you are still wrong.

This is scum. Please hammer him.

You understand that I am tunneling you for the rest of the game if Thor flips town, right? Just wanted to make sure of that.

PenguinPower · Post Post #1269 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 3:36 am

In post 1266, karnos wrote:Thor was pushing the wagon and convinced me to ignore my hesitations, such as the fact that lynching a lurker would cause us to miss out on a claim & reads.

This doesn't make sense if you were so strongly scumreading Thor. Why would he be able to convince you of anything (not too mention it didn't really look like he was pushing the wagon that hard)? You also didn't answer why scum!Thor would have potentially bussed scum!malp when he was one of the smallest wagons at the point he hopped on.

You're breaking my heart, karnos.

MathBlade · Post Post #1270 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 4:17 am

In post 1261, Foxbird wrote:
MathBlade replaces in for LmkGuy!

Many thanks to them~

Hi all!

Getting ready for work will read tonight afterward.

MathBlade · Post Post #1271 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 4:18 am

VOTE: Unvote

MathBlade · Post Post #1272 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 4:21 am

In post 1267, Lowell wrote:I'll also hammer if scum-saru gets cold feet. FTR I still don't think Thor is scum though, would have been better to get saru or lmk today.

...Why the hell would you hammer a townread after announcement of a replace in?

If anything you would want to give a replacement time to interact with people before nightfall and a chance to see if the read on your replacement lines up.

MathBlade · Post Post #1273 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 4:27 am

Based on just this page it is either Karnos+Lowell or Thor is scum with someone off the wagon. Karnos's reason post feels icky.

Gotta go.

MathBlade · Post Post #1274 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 4:33 am

In post 1266, karnos wrote:
In post 1262, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 1259, karnos wrote:Because the Thor wagon wasn't going anywhere, we were near deadline, Thor could have been busing, Thor could have been town... but mal's flip reinforced my opinion of Thor being scum.
You weren't on Thor...you were on Saru - the leading wagon. Thor also hopped on mal when he was the third smallest wagon - why would he do that if he were bussing? He also switched earlier than you.

If anything, your hop onto the wagon looks worse than his.

Why did mal's flip reinforce your scum!read on Thor?
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p8449770 Thor/Saru were my main picks for scum. They both still are, but Thor has moved up a notch and has a viable wagon while Saru doesn't.

As to why it solidified my scum read of Thor, re-read this page: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... &start=750

Thor was pushing the wagon and convinced me to ignore my hesitations, such as the fact that lynching a lurker would cause us to miss out on a claim & reads.

FWIW, Nero was the one who started the wagon. Nero/Saru team isn't out of the question, but I think it's just as likely that scum!Nero might divert a wagon away from town Saru so we can misslynch Saru later. TBH if we could just lynch Thor, Nero, & Saru I'm fairly confident 2 of the 3 will flip red.

Thor is the lynch for today, it's too late to second guess.

Didn't read the link but you don't vote a scumread just because they have a viable wagon you make cases and then see who agrees with you. Mindset there isn't townie.

Second paragraph need to read to see what you claim Thor pushed but the second half of that is true.

It isn't worth anything of who started the wagon unless they did so for a scummy reason. There is also the possibility that Nero townread Saru.

And it isn't too late to second guess at all. Speed lynches and no lynches are a thing.

I know I had to go but that post pisses me off.