Mafia 102: No-Frills Game Thread(Town wins!)


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Post Post #1225 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2009 2:31 pm

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dramonic wrote:Aren't cop sanities usually assured in open games?
No. If you read the game you could tell that I had asked that question and the mod said the sanity wasn't confirmed.
Just because you get to L-1 doesn't mean you claim immediately.
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Super Accurate* Vote Count(as of post 1225):

Trumpet of Doom - 4(charter, hiphop, The Inquisition, danakillsu)
Pyromaniac - 3(peanutman, Trumpet of Doom)
The Inquisition - 1(Pyromaniac)
mask man - 1(crypto)

Not Voting:mask man, Kreriov, dramonic

It takes 6 to lynch, 4 at deadline.

*Not guaranteed to be accurate.
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Post Post #1226 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:26 pm

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crypto wrote:Yes, Captain Nitpicker, because he isn't posting content.
Nice lynch candidate, however that is not how it is done. Like this
mod: prod mask man

Now can we get back to business?
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Post Post #1227 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:50 am

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Unvote: mask man. Vote: Trumpet of Doom.


Mask hasn't posted on the whole site since his last post here. Hadn't seen that.
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Post Post #1228 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:51 am

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Prodding Trumpet of Doom(since I don't want to replace someone in his situation).
Replacing mask man.
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Post Post #1229 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:12 am

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Peanut's list of suspects :

Kaiveran/Dramonic
- Kaiveran because of the massive and continuous lurking or active lurking. Barely any content on his part though he was there until Day 3 before being replaced. (28 posts in all for 3 days, half of which are fluff). Still waiting for significant contribution from Dramonic, not sure if he's done his read. However, Kaiveran's early inactivity, which he promised a few times he would change, makes me quite weary of him, and therefore his replacement.

Trumpet of Doom
- Statement saying he'll just lurk into lylo is not acceptable, and is bad play, whether scum or not. Add to that jumping on the Pyro-BW (3rd in a row, following Crypto and HH), with a simple /agree, seems quite opportunistic to me, leaving him to explain his vote later if necessary. As has been mentionned as well, ToD has been on all the wrong wagons. I also looked into Ethereal Cookie and I noticed he was defending BigMC quite a bit, trying to distract people from looking at him even when there was no real pressure to speak of (this is from me reading him in iso, and from what I remember in my initial read-through).

Pyromaniac
- For his role-fishing yesterday and his FoS of Crypto, our only-confirmed town, as well as his inconsistencies regarding lechat (who he replaced). Still waiting on an answer from him regarding these questions.

Hiphop
- I can't quite explain why, but I do get an off feeling about him with things he says sometimes. Will look into it further but just wanted to put it out there. One of his recent quotes that really bothers me is this one :
Hiphop-iso75 wrote:Sando- I believe you don't have a leg to stand on.

Attacking charter is not a good thing, because charter is town.
The way he states as fact that charter is town is quite unsettling. To be honest, I didn't bring it up at first because I thought he was breadcrumbing (though quite obviously) that he was cop, but then he lists his hypo-investigation list with Dramonic. Therefore, the only way he could be sure of Charter's alignment is if he was scum. Just this isn't much, I know, but I'm trying to wrap my brain around why he would say that as if it was a well-known fact to all.


All that being said, Pyro is still my favourite lynch-candidate, at least until he gives me proper answers about some of the questions I've raised. However, I would be just as happy with a ToD lynch, and am ready to hammer, though want to give him a chance to speak first. He did say he was going to be busy with finals but it hopefully won't be too long.


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Scigatt wrote:No deadline yet.

Also, by request, looking to replace crypto.
Crypto, were you (and are you still) looking to be replaced, or was this a mistake?
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Post Post #1230 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:05 pm

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Rockatansky replaces mask man
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Post Post #1231 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:13 pm

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That was a super-fast replacement. Yay.
peanut wrote:Crypto, were you (and are you still) looking to be replaced, or was this a mistake?
I was, but I'm staying in. Lucky you.
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Post Post #1232 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:32 pm

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Scigatt wrote:
Rockatansky replaces mask man
/confirm
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Post Post #1233 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:49 pm

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peanutman wrote:
Hiphop
- I can't quite explain why, but I do get an off feeling about him with things he says sometimes. Will look into it further but just wanted to put it out there. One of his recent quotes that really bothers me is this one :
Hiphop-iso75 wrote:Sando- I believe you don't have a leg to stand on.

Attacking charter is not a good thing, because charter is town.
The way he states as fact that charter is town is quite unsettling. To be honest, I didn't bring it up at first because I thought he was breadcrumbing (though quite obviously) that he was cop, but then he lists his hypo-investigation list with Dramonic. Therefore, the only way he could be sure of Charter's alignment is if he was scum. Just this isn't much, I know, but I'm trying to wrap my brain around why he would say that as if it was a well-known fact to all.
Did you read day 2? Shall I quote crypto's (confimed town) defense against me? Do you find that charter is town? After day 2, I do not plan on attacking charter. If he pulled a fast one on me as scum, well... good for him, but right now, there is no one else( besides crypto) that I would want to advance into tomorrow with me(assuming that scum doesn't self kill).

Also hammer away. Just to let you know, (depending on the flip, also assuming I don't die) I plan on coming after you or pyro tomorrow. Maybe even Rockatansky. We will see.
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Post Post #1234 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:03 am

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Hiphop, I didn't expect such an overreaction on a questionable feeling I have towards your alignment. Don't panic, I never said you were my top suspect, just that there's something off when I read you and I want to find out why. Also, the fact that a confirmed townie defended you doesn't make you obv-town either. Sure, we know that Crypto has no other motive to defend you, but that doesn't mean he's necessarily right.

As for Charter, I didn't see that much strong involvment in BMC's lynch (which I suppose is why D2 gave you a town read on him). In fact, the following statement is an easy way to focus on any other player if it was beneficial to him.
Charter900 wrote:Alright, back in to this game, so I'll be fighting for bigmc once again. Whoever said that Warwound needs to die and in order for that to happen we need to lynch him is right. I would lynch Warwound at any point before LYLO if I'm not getting bigmc or someone really scummy lynched.
He says he'll fight for bigmc, but that he would lynch Warwound any time. He would also lynch someone really scummy if not for bigmc. Funny how he separates bigmc from "someone really scummy". Day 2 gave me a neutral read on Charter. Also, after muh claimed, he tunneled Sando hard, wouldn't care if he claimed cop. His feelings about Sando were ten times stronger than BigMC.

I suggest, Hiphop, that you reread D3, keeping in mind that Sando is VT, and see if that changes your read on Charter. For me, although Charter isn't at the top of my suspect list, he is nowhere near a cleared townie IMO.
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Post Post #1235 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2009 5:20 am

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Well, lets get this game moving. I completely agree with Crypto about Trumpet. I also want to see Trumpet's flip. If scum, well, charter, you go on the almost certainly townie list.

Vote: Trumpet of Doom
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Post Post #1236 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:42 am

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Why? Charter's been pushing for peanutman. I know he suspects Trumpet, but his vote was reluctant IIRC. Am I missing something?
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Post Post #1237 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:31 am

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I guess that makes any defense I was going to try to make of myself pointless (though I did have a perfectly good reason for voting Sando). Watch out for Kreriov - I was about to accuse him of buddying up to me (see Sando wagon, and I feel like there was another spot I wanted to mention, but I'm not going to bother finding it now).

To my remaining scumbuddy: Sorry for not putting enough energy into this game. Kill crypto tonight, then... I dunno... get creative. :twisted:

(Man, after close to nine months off, my scum game's gotten horrible.)
Discretion is the better part of valor.
If I helped lynch you, you deserved it.

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Post Post #1238 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:43 am

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Only one left, then.
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Post Post #1239 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:43 pm

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Oh hai that was hammer. Roflwin.

Town: charter, hiphop, Kreriov.

Leaning town: danakillsu, The Inquisition, Pyromaniac.

Neutral: mask man / Rockatansky (note mask man's attempt to lynch muh instead of BMC on day 2).

Leaning scum (i.e., scum if dramonic is town): peanutman.

Scum: dramonic.

Cop should strongly consider claiming tomorrow. Four results with three inno and one guilty or three guilty and one inno should be workable,
assuming
the cop is sane or insane.

Vote count analyses FTW if all else fails.
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Post Post #1240 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:44 pm

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/dies
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Post Post #1241 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2009 1:29 pm

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Trumpet of Doom wrote: Watch out for Kreriov
lolwifom
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Post Post #1242 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:01 pm

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Would you rather I try one for every other player instead? I've done it before.
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Post Post #1243 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:47 pm

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crypto wrote: Leaning scum (i.e., scum if dramonic is town): peanutman.

Scum: dramonic.
I would rather switch these around, but we will see.
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Post Post #1244 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:52 pm

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^No, forget that. Peanutman moves way up on my list. Still reading.
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Post Post #1245 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:58 pm

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FUCKIN CALLED THAT BABY!

LETS LYNCH PEANUTMAN NEXT PEOPLE!
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Post Post #1246 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:08 pm

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Another massive scumpoint against Peanut is his push of Pyro today. Then when the pendulum swings on to trumpet, he makes post 1186, which is a not very subtle way of trying to derail the trumpet wagon back on to Pyro. This in addition to his very shady stances on bigmc and general scumminess of all his predecessors.

Also, tomorrow, our cop should claim
IF AND ONLY IF
they have differing results, since that means you're sane or insane, but either way the last scum will be really obvious. If all your results are the same, you should just keep quiet.
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Post Post #1247 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:25 pm

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Pyromaniac wrote:
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Super Accurate* Vote Count(as of post 1225):

Trumpet of Doom - 4(charter, hiphop, The Inquisition, danakillsu)
Pyromaniac - 3(peanutman, Trumpet of Doom)
The Inquisition - 1(Pyromaniac)
mask man - 1(crypto)

Not Voting:mask man, Kreriov, dramonic

It takes 6 to lynch, 4 at deadline.
*Not guaranteed to be accurate.
mod I believe it only takes five to lynch



Charter cop should claim if he has at least three of the same result. That will give town the majority.


The reason I don't like a peanutman lynch is because of ec and x's exchange in the beginning of the game.
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Post Post #1248 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:33 pm

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No, if the cop is naive or paranoid, which is possible, then they just out themselves for no reason.
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Post Post #1249 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2009 5:05 pm

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Final D4 Vote count:



Trumpet of Doom - 6(charter, hiphop, The Inquisition, danakillsu, crypto, Kreriov)

Pyromaniac - 2(peanutman, Trumpet of Doom)
The Inquisition - 1(Pyromaniac)

Not Voting:mask man, dramonic

Trumpet of Doom is lynched D4. He was a Mafia Goon.

Night action deadline starts now.
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