Mini 1527 - The Darkness Within (Game Over)


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Post Post #1200 (ISO) » Mon Jan 27, 2014 6:39 am

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Votecount 4.2


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Post Post #1201 (ISO) » Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:52 am

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OK, TvK, take a look at ABR's actions in posts #623-703 in his ISO in Mini 1505, in which he was a VT:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

This was when Albert was at L-2 and he had been pushing Thor all day. Suddenly he asks Elyse to unvote him without giving a reason and when she doesn't he moves his vote to her. Five posts later, he unvotes because "meh." When he's town, he's erratic. Just like in this game when he was switching back and forth. The fact remains that Lupo was basically lynched on D1 by a bunch of townies who didn't feel that strongly that he was scum. I can't see scum being on that wagon, and then down one partner and facing a player who has a night kill opposed to their faction I can't see them bussing their buddy.

If you think ABR is scum then you need to address that as well as the night action arguments I made.

And then you should hamma penguin. If she's not scum then it's Kid A, and town can lynch him tomorrow.
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Post Post #1202 (ISO) » Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:17 am

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Unbelievable. When are we going to get a flip?
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Post Post #1203 (ISO) » Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:18 am

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Tvk, I see you online. You think I don't see you? Hurry up and hammer, I don't have time for this.
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Post Post #1204 (ISO) » Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:21 am

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But you have time to wait another night phase to get a shot at lynching actual scum? OK then.
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Post Post #1205 (ISO) » Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:29 am

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Nice try, penguin...
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Post Post #1206 (ISO) » Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:33 am

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In post 1201, toolenduso wrote:OK, TvK, take a look at ABR's actions in posts #623-703 in his ISO in Mini 1505, in which he was a VT:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

This was when Albert was at L-2 and he had been pushing Thor all day. Suddenly he asks Elyse to unvote him without giving a reason and when she doesn't he moves his vote to her. Five posts later, he unvotes because "meh." When he's town, he's erratic. Just like in this game when he was switching back and forth. The fact remains that Lupo was basically lynched on D1 by a bunch of townies who didn't feel that strongly that he was scum. I can't see scum being on that wagon, and then down one partner and facing a player who has a night kill opposed to their faction I can't see them bussing their buddy.

If you think ABR is scum then you need to address that as well as the night action arguments I made.

And then you should hamma penguin. If she's not scum then it's Kid A, and town can lynch him tomorrow.
Yes, I assumed Albert was town because you linked this game before. But in the meantime, I finished a game with Albert where he was scum and his play looked a lot like what he was doing here. Quickhammering, switching around, trying to end days as early as possible... I don't have the skills to do an excessive meta check and 'm not able to apply it properly.

As for the night actions, I think Albert single-handedly made sure that Smargaret would be vigged today. I think he is capable of doing this to get himself out of picture of the last scum. Ofcourse, I realise that this is unlikely, so I will end up voting Penguin today, but I'm not interested in ending the day early because I'd like to talk a little more. Do you have other reasons for Kid Ascum other than because of the night actions?
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Post Post #1207 (ISO) » Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:06 am

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Unvote, vote Tvk


You don't get to stall this lynch for me. You vote for Penguin right now or I promise you that I will tunnel you until the end of this game.
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Post Post #1208 (ISO) » Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:09 am

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I promise you this TvK, if you don't place your vote, I'm coming after you and I will end you.
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Post Post #1209 (ISO) » Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:15 am

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You would only benefit from that as scum. Would you do the same to Brian if he decided to stall the lynch?
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Post Post #1210 (ISO) » Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:23 am

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Brian isn't here, and you are making me incredibly upset by delaying this. I need to update my wiki. What the hell are you doing, TvK?
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Post Post #1211 (ISO) » Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:25 am

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tool, reasure me this is town-ABR, because it looks a heck of a lot more like a werewolf who wants to get back to killing.
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Post Post #1212 (ISO) » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:20 pm

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@TvK: Kid A's lurking could be scummy. I'm fairly confident in penguin being the final scum though.

@Penguin: I put together a spreadsheet before this game analyzing numerical data from D1s in completed games of everybody on the player list who I could find three scum games and three town games for. One of the metrics was "percentage of posts per day 1" (PPPD1), the formula for which is (# of posts player made on D1)/(# of posts all players made on D1).

Here were the percentages for the three town games I analyzed for ABR:

Mini 1505: 17.67%
Mini 1357: 13.57% (no joke, this was the actual percentage)
Mini 1499: 9.34%
Average: 13.53%

Here were the percentages for the three scum games I analyzed for ABR:

Mini 1493: 9.1%
Newbie 1133: 14.18%
Open 276: 8.93%
Average: 10.74%

His PPPD1 for this game is 12%.

So that's one piece of evidence for ABR being town. Another thing is I don't think ABR gambits when he's scum, I don't think he's quite as insulting when he's scum and while he does vote for his partners, I'm pretty sure he switches off of them before they get lynched. Much less hammering them himself or bussing both of his partners. Especially when it's not even necessary for him to do so.

@ABR: Voting for TvK won't make him vote for penguin.

@Brian: Are you willing to lynch penguin?
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Post Post #1213 (ISO) » Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:07 pm

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Unvote, vote penguin


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Post Post #1214 (ISO) » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:47 pm

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Tvk, if you don't vote for penguin by the time I get to sleep or Brian doesn't hammer, I will avoid you from here on out. Your lack of a hammer is very upsetting.
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Post Post #1215 (ISO) » Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:17 pm

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Unvote, vote TvK
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Post Post #1216 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:43 am

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Brian Skies' level of activity is unacceptable.
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Post Post #1217 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:40 am

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Votecount 4.3


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(Albert B. Rampage,)
toolenduso, Kid A,
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Post Post #1218 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:44 am

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This game has become a graveyard, precisely because of Tvk's decision to stall the game. I will remember this, TvK. Just wait.
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Post Post #1219 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:45 am

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Unvote, vote Penguin


Just wait, Tvk.
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Post Post #1220 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:12 am

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Sorry, I've been busy lately and I like to abuse the early part of deadlines. I'm in the middle of a quick skim through so I can shore up my reads. I really want to hit the final scum today in case Tool is an SK.

And Albert, stop fucking rushing people.
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Post Post #1221 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:22 am

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Watch it, Brian.
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Post Post #1222 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:47 am

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Albert, I'll be caught up tonight. We can discuss things then. I'm halfway through right now and I'm leaning you/Kid A as town.
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Post Post #1223 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:49 am

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If it helps at all with the theory that I'm a serial killer, consider the following:

1. Claiming vig would put me in danger of the mafia killing me.
2. Claiming two-shot would mean that I couldn't kill more than twice without town knowing I was a serial killer.
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Post Post #1224 (ISO) » Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:01 am

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Tool, the reason why me and conftown Brian are bringing you up as a SK is because we don't want you to get NK'd tonight in case we mislynch. Don't argue with us.
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