Mini 1123 - The Walking Dead - Game Over

[GreyICE]

Yeaah, maybe we better just use it on RC...

[Fate]

If Raivann hammers Rufflig he's confirmed town, and I won't be shooting him.

If we end up stalling to no lynch, ill shoot RC

[GreyICE]

Raivann will see the logic. Ruffles call for no lynch is so desperate.
"Please don't go through this crippling lynch on me!"
"No, I wanna see fate be proved scum, I don't wanna die for the good of the town!"

[Internet Stranger]

ICE is right. This game has been comedy gold. Im loving this.

[RedCoyote]

Does Fate have the power role or not? Yes or no? Your position appears to be that the claim is total obvious bullshit, and that we can't possibly follow my plan because the claim is probably legit and you'll get roleblocked.

It doesn't matter whether I believe it or not (I don't), it's not worth risking the victory when it's a guaranteed victory to kill Fate now.

If Rufflig flips town after being lynched and Fate is telling the truth, it's game over regardless of what I do.
If Fate flips town after being lynched and is telling the truth, it's a guaranteed victory.

[GreyICE]

If Fate flips town after being lynched and is telling the truth, it's a guaranteed victory.

I do actually think this statement is correct.

[Fate]

It isn't. If you mislynch me at MYLO and RC is zombie, we lose.

Don't tell me you're buying his doublekilling Roleblocking zombie bullshit

[Internet Stranger]

We needs Fate's claimed kill.

We lynch town Fate, it becomes ZombieRC, ZombiteRufflig vs ICE, Raivann, IS.
Zombies eat anyone, 2v2, we lose.

We lynch Rufflig, We have ZombieRC, ZombieRaivann, vs ICE, Fate, IS
Zombies eat ICE, Fate shoots RC. FATE, IS vs Zombie Raivann, autolynch, we win.

We lynch Rufflig, We have ZombieRC, ZombieFate, vs ICE, Raivann, IS
Zombies eat ICE, we lose.

Fuck this, someone make a god damn spreadsheet. The only reason RC wont lynch Rufflig is because he is scum.

[GreyICE]

It isn't. If you mislynch me at MYLO and RC is zombie, we lose.

Don't tell me you're buying his doublekilling Roleblocking zombie bullshit

No. I just think that his victory condition is fulfilled.

I just doubt that I share it.

[GreyICE]

From scum perspective, order of likelihood
1) RC + Rufflig:
Path: Lynch Fate

2) Fate+IS
Path: Lynch Rufflig, RB RC

3) Rufflig+Raivann
Path: None, they've already lost. If RC is alive tomorrow as confirmed town, we lynch Fate and RC shoots Raivann.

No lynch

1) RC dies, Rufflig lives. If Fate dies and flips cop, 2 confirmed town, if Fate lives, just no lynch and he kills Ruffles rather than try to convince Raivann to lynch Ruffles
2) Kill me, roleblock RC, try to convince Raivann to vote for Ruffles since RC will be "confirmed town."
3) They win, because Fate gets lynched tomorrow.

Why the following teams are impossible:

IS + non-Fate: Cop clear
RC+Fate: They would just vote one or the other, and win
RC+Raivann: Only path to victory is no lynch, neither advocates that.
Fate+Rufflig: Borderlines of possible, but really too stupid for words.

Thoughts:

Raivann+Rufflig scumteam

is very possible because Rufflig is screaming for a no lynch, and Raivann is voting fate. Lynching fate secures the win for this team, No lynching secures the win because tomorrow town-RC lynches town-fate, and they win. Lynching scum Rufflig, on the other hand, just causes a mislynch of Fate, which town-RC solves by shooting Raivann in the skull. IS is left standing very confused in the crater that was this town.

Rufflig+RC scumteam

is very possible, because of what we are watching play out in thread.

IS+Fate scumteam

just don't buy it on interactions.

IS+Ruffles

: Fate may be crazy, but he ain't stupid. Raivann is such an EASY mislynch.

[GreyICE]

Oh yeah, and Fate+IS loses if Fate doesn't have some sort of roleblock in any case, because tonight scum-Fate gets shot, and Town-RC and Town-Raivann lynch scum-IS.

So voting Rufflig is really my safest and best option. That's using engineering.

Using my head, IS is clearly not scum, and Fate+RC would have won already, Fate+Raivann would have won already, and Fate+Rufflig is the most epically stupid bus of all time ever. It would beat me being scum and shooting other-scum rather than winning.

[Internet Stranger]

Now can we lynch Rufflig?

[GreyICE]

Sure. I'll just use my doublevoter power...

[GreyICE]

Seriously, I've spent a long time crafting a very good case why whoever is town amongst RC and Raivann should vote Rufflig. I hope they're listening.

[Raivann]

Greyice SK?

[Fate]

No... theresn no SK. Just town and cult, we are town, rc and rufflig aare cult.

Please work with us.

[The Rufflig]

@GreyICE: What can I say other than I'm offended. I'm offended that you thought so little of my intelligence that you believed you could manipulate me into hammering myself by telling an obvious lie straight to my face. You had already made who you suspect perfectly clear in the thread.

[Internet Stranger]

I only wish the mod would extended the deadline so we can go at this FOREVER! This is GREAT!

[TonyMontana]

Eternal deadline extension granted. And you need 7 to lynch.

[GreyICE]

Rufflig, there was an off chance you're town, and the scumteam was Fate+IS.

I mean you might as well claim scum in thread at this point, but the possibility was there. If you were, you win by hammering as long as Fate doesn't have roleblocker component to his power, which you clearly didn't know about at the time - I'd missed it too, in point of fact, though it makes a certain kind of sense (it's basically a modified jailkeeper).

As is, I know for a fact that you're a zombie, so we're working on #2. I lean Red Coyote.

[GreyICE]

<3 Tony

<3

<3

Seriously not joking when I say I will play in your next game.
As long as you promise there's no cult.

[Fate]

I have no choice but to play in Tony's games, I'm on his auto-list.

Also it doesn't look too good for a town win at this point, so I'll have to keep playing and maybe one day I'll actually WIN one of these Tony games.

[GreyICE]

Raivann will see the light. Yes he will. Right? Maybe Red Coyote is town? He could always switch his vote and prove it to be true...

They have to kill you tonight if we no lynch, so tomorrow you'll flip town whatchamacallit, and then IS will be mod confirmed. And with 4 alive, and 2 mod confirmed town, and known scum, we have a hope.

[GreyICE]

Come on Raivann, if it's IS & Fate, I'll change my signature to

"Raivann is always right and I'm an idiot"

for a month. You know that would be a hysterical signature for me to have.

[Internet Stranger]

We have over-analyzed this to a vestigial death already.