Mini 1659- Lost Room Mafia GAME OVER

[ooba]

Flames was a mason? I just thought the knife owner just knew that the wristwatch was town.

Lemme read D1.

Let me point out that Klazam's reasoning on me makes no sense.
"Basically that post just screams "oh ok, time to bus my scumbuddy"
- First off, my 'Scum!' directed at AP was a throwaway comment.
- Secondly the way he frames this narrative was as though Dechs claim made me go 'time to bus my scumbuddy'.
This is wrong as the 'Scum!' was before Dechs claimed the flask on AP. I missed the entire exchange and by the time I came back, it was quite obvious who the lynch was going to be.

"I don't know about wisdom, but it sure seemed like ooba was bussing to me. I don't know.

I did think that ap was town to start off, but then it went down hill lol"

Note the defense statement in the second line.

Also lack of critical thought. I don't see mention on my scum partner at all.

[ooba]

Ok. Guess Flames was a mason.

I didn't need to read entire D1 because I think it's obvious now (plus PoE).

But here's a gem:

yeah wis got that right. I'm a bit dense sometimes.

I really like wis's reaction to that wagon, though. he can be town for now. I see a lot of reaching in dark light's posts. the ones about om for example.

vote Darklight

P-Edit: explain what you mean by "distance"

my god you dudes this is who we shoudl have lynched these reasons are fuckin useless he is wagon jumping on whatever seems to suit him and nobody is calling him out on it

VOTE: wisdom

'Oh guys - This is who we should have lynched!' - No mention at start of D2. Also Om's ISO has Klaz mild bus written all over it.

I'll probably read D1 just to reorient myself. (In case Dechs is fucking with us in some way with clearing Farside\GM). But right now, It's Klazam, Om.

Vote: Klazam

[farside22]

I notice ooba keeps saying he doesn't trust dech about me.
Is there any reason you are scum reading me ooba or is this still about hypo?

[farside22]

Also I'm just going to point out that AP flipped scum. The 3rd party just outted him and his fake claimed. I'd like to understand from ooba why he thinks dech maybe fucking with people.

[ooba]

I notice ooba keeps saying he doesn't trust dech about me.
Is there any reason you are scum reading me ooba or is this still about hypo?

Also I'm just going to point out that AP flipped scum. The 3rd party just outted him and his fake claimed. I'd like to understand from ooba why he thinks dech maybe fucking with people.

Because otherwise it's game over by PoE. Lynching Klazam\Om - blocking the other with Dech's key and lynching the other tomorrow will end the game. Town has essentially won.

I'm covering bases where Dechs *might* have lied - I had no doubts when he claimed he was TP or even the flask thing. I had a minor wiggle when he wanted you or GM to hammer on D2. Made me think he could have cleared you guys just to get a favourable item bundling.

[Guyett]

VOTE: guyett

[Guyett]

I am super obvious scum with DK

[farside22]

I'm really sad now that I was wrong about om.

[ooba]

I'm really sad now that I was wrong about om.

That's how I feel too.

Also that give up post makes me think Klaz is the one with the Glass Eye and Toothbrush. (or the one that can somehow screw with the Key roleblock). Lynch him first.

[farside22]

Had to check the vc before voting.

Vote: Guyette

If guy is giving up it probably is klaz.

Damn I'm going to owe someone.

[Guyett]

Soz Jinglyballs

[farside22]

Jinks!

[ooba]

Also that give up post makes me think Klaz is the one with the Glass Eye and Toothbrush. (or the one that can somehow screw with the Key roleblock). Lynch him first.

Farside.. Stick to the plan.

[farside22]

Also that give up post makes me think Klaz is the one with the Glass Eye and Toothbrush. (or the one that can somehow screw with the Key roleblock). Lynch him first.

Farside.. Stick to the plan.

I'll need br, dv or gm around before putting klaz at l-1

[ooba]

Also that give up post makes me think Klaz is the one with the Glass Eye and Toothbrush. (or the one that can somehow screw with the Key roleblock). Lynch him first.

Farside.. Stick to the plan.

I'll need br, dv or gm around before putting klaz at l-1

Get what you're saying. You don't want the Klaz-self vote, Guy to sudden hammer and get the items - so we need to coordinate from L-3.

But it's six to lynch. Right now only Wis and me are on that wagon.

[farside22]

Sorry I thought it was 4 to lynch.

Vote: klaz

[Wisdom]

So either klaz/Guyett or ooba/Guyett. Guyett looks like the correct lynch here.

[Wisdom]

Not to mention he basically claimed scum and gave up

VOTE: guyett

[ooba]

So either klaz/Guyett or ooba/Guyett. Guyett looks like the correct lynch here.

You're not taking the Guyett give up into account (Unless you think I prearranged this with him). I think Klaz is the way to go - because he probably has some role blocker etc. element to his role.

'Why give up?' is something worth asking?

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To appease your suspicion of me,

1) analyse the reaction to Dech's claim on D2:
- AP was against it and wanted to lynch Dechs
- Klazam appeared not very confident and voted you

As opposed to my reaction.

2) I generally never bus as scum. A double whammy post like this wouldn't come out if the team was AP\Guy\Me.

Hmmmmmmmm.

Ok Im tempted to believe this since you are offering something fairly game breaking...but that is just it.

Why would the mod tell you that what you need is all in town hands? I don't even see how that is a "catch" from the perspective you are presenting. That seems unnecessary and I can't remember ever seeing a survivor that only wins with town.

Couldn't you still win by hammering whoever has the toothbrush? What changed that made you want to claim this?

Scum!

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Also, the people who knew\acted like DarkLight was town even before he flipped
- Flames
- Om
are suspect - because he wasn't mason.

3) Also I started off with the comb. It's an iconic item from the show and what we've seen from Jingle - he wouldn't relegate that to fake claim status.

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Also, did you see that Om post + ISO?

[Wisdom]

Yes, and I also saw you bringing it up and not voting Guyett.

[Wisdom]

Not to mention you did the exact same thing. You were saying that Om and Flames were suspicious for the Darklight behavior yet not only you never pushed any of them, but you suddenly got an Om townread out of nowhere.

[ooba]

Not to mention you did the exact same thing. You were saying that Om and Flames were suspicious for the Darklight behavior yet not only you never pushed any of them, but you suddenly got an Om townread out of nowhere.

Well since I never posted anything resembling a read list before that - you can't verify - I did have a town lean on Om. The 'they acted like DL was town' applied to two people so I knew both can't be scum - so it was a minor thing.

Plus thats sloppy scum play. I know AP's gonna get lynched. Maybe BR gets a vig - would I really add my scum buddy to the 'no vig' knowing the pressure it brings and that I'll have to answer for it today?

Ideal thing to do then was plan a day ahead. Set up the next mislynch. (Which is exactly what Klazam did btw)

If I was scum with Guy, I would have come in - guns blazing busing away - get cred for his lynch. Mislynch Klazam tomorrow and try and salvage something through WIFOM.

But whatever - this works too. Just don't expect the key to work.

Vote: Guy

[divacat]

it pains me but I feel like this is the right thing to do

VOTE: guyett

[farside22]

it is 6 to lynch right?

[farside22]

listen ftr I didn't have guy as scum till the end of the day with the AP lych and his comment.

I'm a bit paranoid with the easy button aspect of the game currently but i owe someone my shame moment for now for the scum call.