DEFCON Mafia 2.0 - Over, American Victory!

[SocioPath]

ZOMG LIEK LOOK AT ALL THESE LURKERZ.

[Internet Stranger]

Toog is retarded, anyone dare pull bullshit like that, you suck. I should be going after Fate for going after him so hard and being mean to him.

Im still going with my pick, though.

Vote: VasudeVa

[gandalf5166]

Oh my god Toog....... I will probably never play with you again. Doing bullshit like that is unnacceptable.

VOTE: Dana

[chesskid3]

^nice overreaction.

vote: gandalfscum[\b]

[Fate]

VOTE: Chesskid

[gandalf5166]

Just realized I'm already signed up for a game with Toog. I talked to him though, and I guess I'll give him another chance. That was just.....

Well. On to this game.

VOTE: Chess

[Katsuki]

Nice one gandalf. As if you've never played with toogeloo before this game.

Vote: Gandalf

[VasudeVa]

MOD: I request replacement.

Stupid holidays. Too far behind now and I'm still swamped. At this rate, it'll be around the first week of January before I get any real time to read.

Aussie relatives visiting after 10 years = Lotsa sightseeing in backwater provinces with no internet. My parents thought it was an awesome idea to volunteer me since I'm currently unemployed and bumming around the house.

I didn't expect them to have all this time energy and money to last this long otherwise I would have replaced out 2 weeks ago. (I thought we would be sightseeing around for a week, tops. It's been 15 days...and counting. >.>)

I'm so soorry Alm >.<, Sorry everyone else.

[SpyreX]

Oh my god Toog....... Doing bullshit like that is unnacceptable.

This is pretty much spot on and that was not awesome in any way shape or form.

However, the final vote isn't as awesome EVEN THOUGH I WOULD BET THAT IS WHATS GOIN ON TODAY.

Unvote, Vote: Dana

[Katsuki]

Yes spyspy, I'm sure everyone knows what toog did was horrific. However, do you not believe in overreaction? I believe everything that needed to be said was already expressed yesterday, no?

Gandalf's reaction feels fake.

[SpyreX]

Maybe.

However, I still wouldn't put a bullet there over other places.

[Baby Spice]

Vote Chesskid

Thought he was scum yesterday, still think he's scum today.

[Faraday]

Missed shit loads at the end of yesterday it seems. Will probably read it eventually.

Would love to lynch katsuki,

Vote Katsuki

[danakillsu]

vote: Fate

I told you not to lynch Toog, you kept after him anyway, and he eventually just claimed scum because he knew lynching him would be best for us even though he was town. It's time for you to pay up for your "scumhunting" methods.

[gandalf5166]

vote: Fate

I told you not to lynch Toog, you kept after him anyway, and he eventually just claimed scum because he knew lynching him would be best for us even though he was town. It's time for you to pay up for your "scumhunting" methods.

This quote boils down to "Hey, being responsible for a mislynch means Fate has to be scum. Because everybody who's town never mislynches."

[Bunnylover]

As I said before, that interaction did not look like a Town v.s. Town.

Vote: Fate

[Kitoari]

vote: Fate

I told you not to lynch Toog, you kept after him anyway, and he eventually just claimed scum because he knew lynching him would be best for us even though he was town. It's time for you to pay up for your "scumhunting" methods.

One of the few relevant pages from the wiki is the Burden of Proficiency, which is what this is.

That being said, I do not like the chesskid wagon. I'm going to reread a few people.

[AurorusVox]

AV, the reason I didn't vote is because it wasn't too hard to guess that this would happen. Like dana said, it was fairly easy to read it as though he was being sarcastic. In a real way it looks as though he wanted to be through with the game, but, you know, replacing out would've been nice.

Leaving him alive let far too much WIFOM into the game. You can't say that allowing someone to live after they claim scum is anything but a bad idea. Maximum of five people would have KNOWN he was lying (1x Toog, 1x Sub, 3x Chinese scum) and I think people who stayed away from what they KNEW was a mislynch is pretty likely.

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I still like Percy's case on Chess. It was pretty comprehensive and I haven't seen anything from Chess to defend against it.

Vote: Chesskid

[RedCoyote]

Red I'd bet town but you can NEVER NEVER let that kind of business go unchecked.

Therein lies the game itself, my friend. I know your motivations were probably pure based on what I've seen from you so far. It's one thing to say, "I have a line Toogeloo, and you just crossed it. I recommend everyone else vote." It's quite another to say what AV did, and that's, "Hey, RC, why aren't you doing what I'm doing? He set himself up, so I'm not complaining!"

You just know some of these folks were licking their chops over an American who offered himself on a silver platter.

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Maximum of five people would have KNOWN he was lying (1x Toog, 1x Sub, 3x Chinese scum) and I think people who stayed away from what they KNEW was a mislynch is pretty likely.

It's the town's role to assess motivations, why is this any different? It's an emotional game. People are going to act irrationally. If Player A says, "Lynch me, I'm done with this game", that doesn't necessarily make it an open and shut case, right?

[AurorusVox]

He didn't say that though. He said "I'm scum."

And no one other than those five named people would know he was "an American who offered himself on a silver platter" - I am none of those five, and I believed he was giving up as scum (I've seen something similar happen twice in one game).

And in any case, I wasn't telling you to vote Toog. I was asking why you weren't and explaining why I was surprised that you hadn't.

[SpyreX]

You just know some of these folks were licking their chops over an American who offered himself on a silver platter.

You're still making the assumption the evil forces of evil wouldn't think it was a give-up by the other evil forces.

But, yea, that could very well be true - because it was a dumb that had to be sheered.

Also worth noting: Bunny/Dana has a scum in it.

[SocioPath]

Oh my god Toog....... I will probably never play with you again. Doing bullshit like that is unnacceptable.

VOTE: Dana

Just realized I'm already signed up for a game with Toog. I talked to him though, and I guess I'll give him another chance. That was just.....

Well. On to this game.

VOTE: Chess

These posts make zero sense with what that say, and when they were said.

I am none of those five

RUSSIAN SCUM!

[Fate]

There will be words tonight. WORDS

Spoiler:
VOTE: dana

[danakillsu]

vote: Fate

I told you not to lynch Toog, you kept after him anyway, and he eventually just claimed scum because he knew lynching him would be best for us even though he was town. It's time for you to pay up for your "scumhunting" methods.

This quote boils down to "Hey, being responsible for a mislynch means Fate has to be scum. Because everybody who's town never mislynches."

vote: Fate

I told you not to lynch Toog, you kept after him anyway, and he eventually just claimed scum because he knew lynching him would be best for us even though he was town. It's time for you to pay up for your "scumhunting" methods.

One of the few relevant pages from the wiki is the Burden of Proficiency, which is what this is.

That being said, I do not like the chesskid wagon. I'm going to reread a few people.

I understand that responsibility for a mislynch does not in and of itself make someone scum. However, this is in addition to all the things I said yesterday, and it's way more scumminess than I usually get from Fate. And of course, then there's this...

There will be words tonight. WORDS

Spoiler:
VOTE: dana

...yeah....

[AurorusVox]

Are you calling his vote an OMGUS?