STEVEN UNIVERSE MAFIA - GAME OVER

[Varsoon]

"Well I'm going with

not

Pearl."

-Amethyst,

Giant Woman

"Well that's perfect because I don't want to go with grammatically incorrect people anyway."

-Pearl,

Giant Woman

VOTECOUNT 1.23

Replace in (5):

TunnelWarriors, Ricastle, Trench Warfare, MaxwellPuckett, CooLDoG

Beer (4):

Replace in, NicCage, Fluminator, Marquis

Thefuzzylogic99 (4):

Sonic X, grapes, Skybird, Cheetory6

Reasonably Rational (4):

vezokpiraka, vezokpiraka, grapes, Bins

Sonic X (1):

Beer

Bins (1):

Thefuzzylogic99

Not Voting (3):

Mastin2, Ra9in9 Bull, Reasonably Rational

With 20 Alive, it takes 11 to Lynch.
Deadline

: (expired on 2015-07-13 06:50:00)

[Reasonably Rational]

I dunno which one you mean, I'm guessing RR, but I'll do both.

I felt like Sonic's criticism of Beer's attack on them was legitimate, and that was that they were basically just saying "this post is bad" with a lot more words. I felt like that style, whatever they called it, deep analysis or something, was basically just an excuse to seem like they were doing something. I believe vezok, and I think that pawtucket's failure to express any reads in his neighborhood is extremely suspicious, since that's a pretty low pressure environment.

For RR I am suspicious, but I can't really tell what's going on there. I mean your 899 hit the nail on the head, how likely is it that both heads have the exact same playstyle for this game? It's super weird. And trench is on their side, which bothers me. I'm open to voting them I guess, but I'm just so shaky on that read. They could be legit. I feel like I ought to see more.

p-edit: directed at grapes

This is interesting. I had actually missed the part in 899 talking about the similarity in style between Drixx and myself, and the reference to ego, so I'll take a moment to address it now since you drew my attention to it(thank you).

I am terrible at Day 1. Everything that everyone jumps at and tries to lynch people over reads like nonsense to me, and it all feels incredibly arbitrary. HOWEVER(and here is where the ego comes in) I KNOW that, if placed in a room with a random assortment of people, it is highly unlikely that they'll be better at a given intellectual pursuit than I am. What does this lead me to conclude? That if I think I'm fucking terrible at Day 1, most other people must be EVEN WORSE and just too blinded by their hubris to realize it. So, grapes was half right. There's ego involved, but it's not ego in thinking I'm actually good at this game. It's ego in thinking that if I'm this bad, how can the rest of you possibly be significantly better?

The above is the foundation of both my dislike for day 1, and my general lack of scum reads on said day. It's not that I/we don't have scum reads and leans we've discussed and the reasons behind them, it's that(in my case at least) I don't view the evidence as strong enough to present a case, regardless of how strongly I might feel someone is probably scum.

I hesitate to speak for Drixx, but I'm fairly certain he feels much the same way I do about the arbitrary nature of D1 reads and lynches. He's also better at this than I am, generally(he does focus a bit much on the wrong things sometimes). And we also both started out playing on the same site, with the same meta, so it shouldn't be entirely surprising if there are similarities in the way we approach the game. Beyond that, I can't really speak for him.

Sorry, that post should have happened 100 posts ago.

In regards to us "lurking out the game," I find it's far more interesting to see how the conversations about us flow when we're not actively involved in them. Plus, work and switching to the hydra is irritating. In any case, I'm putting this here: VOTE: Beer

I like this a lot more than the lynch the lynchbait plan(does anyone really believe fuzzy is THAT bad at being scum? like seriously? the level of scumminess in his posts is astronomical), or lynch the inactive who has been replaced by someone who actually seems engaged in the game.

For the record, I don't think Drixx will approve. He seems to be of the opinion that, because Vezok just gave up on that lynch, it was either a scum play that failed(which I think is unlikely, given that it's a low reward play with high risk, and given his double voting which seems unlikely to be(though possibly is) scum), OR it was a mutual play they came up with in their PT to reaction test the town, in which case it isn't alignment indicative at all.

I think the fact that this wagon disappeared basically as soon as the first distraction appeared is good cause to think it was on scum. I keep planning on looking at those vote counts, and seeing who left the wagon when and what they said was their reason for leaving it, but I keep pushing it off. I'll try to get around to it before we get super close to deadline. But remember, I'm terrible at this, so seriously, I could be wrong.

-Cerb

P.S. Let's see how long it takes for someone to point out how opportunistic this vote is, jumping on the wagon that's gaining momentum, and how it must be a counterwagon to scum somewhere in the current candidates, and how "omg it's so obvious he's just trying to distance himself from a lynch he KNOWS will flip town by talking about how he's bad". Whoever decides to take the plunge into making those arguments, you have fun with that.

P.P.S. Trench supporting us is a little worrisome as well(and you guys didn't confirm the plan with the allying thing, I'd like to make sure we're all clear on the procedure so we don't all end up without an alliance or something stupid like that). There's really two options there: Either they're scum, and know they failed miserably at getting Drixx at least lynched recently as town when they were fabulously wrong about his alignment and very confrontational, and thus think buddying up to us will be more effective, or they're town and have come to the realization that our mutual issues with getting a handle on each other/the ease with which we misunderstand each other are problems we should be very aware of, and try to avoid, and are thus doing so by deliberately being non confrontational. At least, that's how I see it. Maybe I'm overthinking it. Maybe it's as simple as "Titus would prefer to ally with known quantities who approach the game in a similar fashion, and will thus be more likely to spend the day in a useful conversation, than arguing about methodology."

[Cheetory6]

HOWEVER(and here is where the ego comes in) I KNOW that, if placed in a room with a random assortment of people, it is highly unlikely that they'll be better at a given intellectual pursuit than I am.

[Reasonably Rational]

HOWEVER(and here is where the ego comes in) I KNOW that, if placed in a room with a random assortment of people, it is highly unlikely that they'll be better at a given intellectual pursuit than I am.

*shrug* Ego.

[Reasonably Rational]

-Cerb

[Cheetory6]

[Ricastle]

[Ricastle]

The rest of that paragraph is even worse

[Trench Warfare]

Having an ego isn't scummy. I will agree to disagree on the intellectual pursuit, but I like sparring with you both when you're engaged. If the 6 of us can be on the same page, it will be unstoppable. Avoiding drama fights is also good since I feel sometimes you'll think you're doing the right thing but be wrong. The three of us tend to approach the game the same way. TSO, hopefully, will jive with wgertz, and Dr. Pepper has the historical site meta that will be useful.

The biggest issue Day 1, is that it is rarely about logic. After we get further, hopefully we can actually apply my VCA. Day 1 content matters little. Day 1 votes tell the story.

Somethings we agree on naturally. I believe I was the first to call fuzzy lynchbait. I generally tend to like players I can sync up with in their heads. I also don't get in a confrontation for shits and giggles.

I'm confirming the alliance plan. We both ally tunnel. That gets us three "person" hood.

~Titus

[vezokpiraka]

unvote
vote beer

BTW Beer claimed hated in PT so it takes only 10 to lynch him.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

I would be offended about the comment about my poor / scummy play except it is true. Im really aweful today.

I was thinking from must get lynch and get flip mentality nstead of my usual just vote for who I think is scummy mindset I usual play as town with. To be honest I am not sure why I was thinking that way. Playing lynch who I think is scum opens alot more options....

Part of me wants to lynch beer bc itseems like a home run as far as hittting scum but Vezo over all attitude and play makes me doubt Beer is scum. If I got a solid scum hit I would hard push it all day till I got a lynch or atleast which Vezo didnt do. He also seems to be overreactionary about his role as a DV. Not that Beer has exactly tlwnie either. For now I think I will stick with Bins

[Skybird]

Fuzzy has looked a lot less scummy in his recent posts. But there is a lot of AtE in the posts as well.

Vezok, why do you think Beer claimed hated in the PT?

[vezokpiraka]

Fuzzy has looked a lot less scummy in his recent posts. But there is a lot of AtE in the posts as well.

Vezok, why do you think Beer claimed hated in the PT?

It was the same one who claimed it.

I don't know why.

@farside : Wanna ally with me cause I'm getting bad vibes from sonic x?

[farside22]

I'd ally with you vezo.

[Ricastle]

But what about me?

[NicCage]

I need an ally still
I promise to keep you from being lonely at night

[Skybird]

Beer has definitely been playing weirdly. I'm OK with a lynch there.

VOTE: Beer

[Ricastle]

I need an ally still
I promise to keep you from being lonely at night

Alright then!

VOTE: Beer Let's see what you do at L-1.

[Bins]

ou giggity a flash wagon

[Sonic X]

shoot, as always im last to find a group

bins can i ally with you plz?

[Sonic X]

@farside : Wanna ally with me cause I'm getting bad vibes from sonic x?

zzzx inherently gives bad vvibes to anyone. this is probably the first and lasst time in hydraing with him. he isn't helping shit

[Bins]

you shouldn't target me with your ally ability

i'm not sure who i will ally w. yet

[Sonic X]

how freaking weird.

dont we have to mutual ally in order to form a hood?


never mind

i'll hydra with another sweetie pie then. skybird?

[Reasonably Rational]

UNVOTE: Beer

That was super fast. I still feel good about this lynch, but I don't want it happening before he can talk/while I'm working on figuring out what happened to the first wagon if there was this much support for his lynch.

For future ease of reference, the rise and fall of Beer wagon #1. Just to clarify, this isn't some shitty D1 VCA attempt. I just want to be able to skim through and figure out why the people who were on the wagon before gave as their reason for leaving his wagon.

27
Beer (3): vezokpiraka, vezokpiraka, Sonic X
Mastin2 (1): Ricastle

75
Beer (5): vezokpiraka, vezokpiraka, Sonic X, Ricastle, Trench Warfare
Cheetory6 (1): MaxwellPuckett
MaxwellPuckett (1): Cheetory6
Sonic X (1): Beer

127
Beer (5): vezokpiraka, vezokpiraka, Sonic X, Ricastle, Trench Warfare
Cheetory6 (1): MaxwellPuckett
MaxwellPuckett (1): Cheetory6
Sonic X (1): Beer

279
Beer (5): vezokpiraka, vezokpiraka, Sonic X, Ricastle, Trench Warfare
Sonic X (2): Beer, Cheetory6
radmann9 (1): Ra9in9 Bull

325
Beer (4): vezokpiraka, vezokpiraka, Sonic X, Trench Warfare
Sonic X (2): Cheetory6, Ricastle
radmann9 (2): Ra9in9 Bull, CooLDoG
Ra9in9 Bull (1): Beer
Marquis (1): MaxwellPuckett
Skybird (1): Marquis

350
Beer (6): vezokpiraka, vezokpiraka, Sonic X, Trench Warfare, TunnelWarriors, radmann9,
Sonic X (2): Cheetory6, Ricastle
radmann9 (2): Ra9in9 Bull, CooLDoG
Ra9in9 Bull (1): Beer
Marquis (1): MaxwellPuckett
Skybird (1): Marquis

400
Beer (6): vezokpiraka, vezokpiraka, Sonic X, Trench Warfare, TunnelWarriors, radmann9,
Sonic X (2): Cheetory6, Ricastle
radmann9 (2): Ra9in9 Bull, CooLDoG
Ra9in9 Bull (1): Beer
Marquis (1): MaxwellPuckett
Ricastle (1): NicCage
Skybird (1): Marquis

425
Beer (6): vezokpiraka, vezokpiraka, Sonic X, Trench Warfare, TunnelWarriors, radmann9
radmann9 (3): Ra9in9 Bull, CooLDoG, Ricastle
Sonic X (1): Cheetory6
Ra9in9 Bull (1): Beer
Marquis (1): MaxwellPuckett
Ricastle (1): NicCage
Skybird (1): Marquis

475
Beer (5): vezokpiraka, vezokpiraka, Sonic X, Trench Warfare, radmann9
radmann9 (4): Ra9in9 Bull, CooLDoG, Ricastle, TunnelWarriors
Ra9in9 Bull (2): Beer, grapes
Sonic X (1): Cheetory6
Cheetory6 (1): grapes
Marquis (1): MaxwellPuckett
Ricastle (1): NicCage
Skybird (1): Marquis

525
Beer (4): vezokpiraka, vezokpiraka, Sonic X, radmann9
radmann9 (3): CooLDoG, Ricastle, TunnelWarriors
Ra9in9 Bull (2): Beer, grapes
Trench Warfare (1): Ra9in9 Bull
Sonic X (1): Cheetory6
Cheetory6 (1): grapes
Marquis (1): MaxwellPuckett
Ricastle (1): NicCage
Skybird (1): Marquis

650
Ra9in9 Bull (4): Beer, grapes, Trench Warfare, Ricastle
Beer (3): vezokpiraka, vezokpiraka, radmann9
radmann9 (2): CooLDoG, TunnelWarriors
Thefuzzylogic99 (1): Sonic X
Sonic X (1): Cheetory6
Cheetory6 (1): grapes
Marquis (1): MaxwellPuckett
Ricastle (1): NicCage
Skybird (1): Marquis

675
Ra9in9 Bull (4): Beer, grapes, Trench Warfare, Ricastle
Beer (3): vezokpiraka, vezokpiraka, radmann9
radmann9 (2): CooLDoG, TunnelWarriors
Thefuzzylogic99 (2): Sonic X, grapes
Sonic X (1): Cheetory6
Ricastle (1): NicCage
Skybird (1): Marquis

726
Beer (3): vezokpiraka, vezokpiraka, radmann9
Ra9in9 Bull (2): grapes, Trench Warfare
radmann9 (2): CooLDoG, TunnelWarriors
Thefuzzylogic99 (2): Sonic X, grapes
NicCage (2): Cheetory6, Bins
Sonic X (2): Ricastle, Beer
Ricastle (1): NicCage
Skybird (1): Marquis
Marquis (1): Skybird
grapes (1): Reasonably Rational

728
radmann9 (2): CooLDoG, TunnelWarriors
Thefuzzylogic99 (2): Sonic X, grapes
NicCage (2): Cheetory6, Bins
Reasonably Rational (2): vezokpiraka, vezokpiraka
Ra9in9 Bull (2): grapes, Trench Warfare
Sonic X (2): Ricastle, Beer
Ricastle (1): NicCage
Skybird (1): Marquis
Marquis (1): Skybird
grapes (1): Reasonably Rational
Beer (1): radmann9

-Cerb

[Varsoon]

Crying Breakfast Friends

is a satirical show-within-the-show of

Steven Universe

; it pokes fun at

Steven Universe

and other cartoons that predominantly feature crying, cute characters.

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