Mini 1492: Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets GAME OVER


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Post Post #1075 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 12:27 pm

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In post 1074, fferyllt wrote:I guess I want to talk about this a little longer, but I think I'm alone in that.

You said you liked your town-Amrun read, IIRC. To the point where you'd put her as town above me, Nacho, and JW. Is there any combination of scum in that group of three that makes sense, given the claims?

That leaves you, JS, and RachMarie. What's your take on the tracker claim? Does it fit with one side or the other to you?
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Post Post #1076 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 12:35 pm

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In post 1075, penguin_alien wrote:
In post 1074, fferyllt wrote:I guess I want to talk about this a little longer, but I think I'm alone in that.

You said you liked your town-Amrun read, IIRC. To the point where you'd put her as town above me, Nacho, and JW. Is there any combination of scum in that group of three that makes sense, given the claims?

That leaves you, JS, and RachMarie. What's your take on the tracker claim? Does it fit with one side or the other to you?
The three PR claims are cross validated. It's freaking me out a little balance-wise, though.

We know the scum team had a JOAT. I assume they have enough to counterbalance the town roles, including the potential for there to have been a treestump.
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Post Post #1077 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 12:37 pm

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And I have no choice but to doubt my Amrun read now, unless one of the claimed PRs is scum.
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Post Post #1078 (ISO) » Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:59 pm

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iN my view it has to be Rach, and Amrun personally,
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Post Post #1079 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 4:25 am

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In post 1059, fferyllt wrote:Heh.

I think this is autowin, then.
In post 1076, fferyllt wrote:The three PR claims are cross validated. It's freaking me out a little balance-wise, though.
In post 1077, fferyllt wrote:And I have no choice but to doubt my Amrun read now, unless one of the claimed PRs is scum.
What on earth is this line of thought?
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Post Post #1080 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 4:25 am

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In post 1050, JacobSavage wrote:Half of me is kind of like it could easily be RM / Nacho but that doesn't really feel right.

The paranoid part says JW /Nacho.
In post 1078, JacobSavage wrote:iN my view it has to be Rach, and Amrun personally,
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Post Post #1081 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 4:33 am

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Votecount 4.2:


JacobSavage (3)-
Nachomamma8, RachMarie, Amrun

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fferyllt, penguin_alien, JacobSavage, JasonWazza

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch. Deadline is at 9pm BST on Thursday 24th October 2013

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Post Post #1082 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 4:36 am

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In post 1079, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1059, fferyllt wrote:Heh.

I think this is autowin, then.
In post 1076, fferyllt wrote:The three PR claims are cross validated. It's freaking me out a little balance-wise, though.
In post 1077, fferyllt wrote:And I have no choice but to doubt my Amrun read now, unless one of the claimed PRs is scum.
What on earth is this line of thought?
The sentiments in the first quote could be premature.

Otherwise I think it's pretty obvious.

Town: JasonWazza, Nacho, Rach, PA - by virtue of the PR claims and results.

Scum: JacobSavage and Amrun (and me, from your point of view)

Unless there is a problem with the first group.

What does this do you
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Amrun read, and how comfortable are you with the town group?
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Post Post #1083 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 4:44 am

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The only thing that could possibly be accomplished is if there is some reason to doubt any of the PRs. Rach would have to be a scum tracker who followed me not once, but TWICE after she found me going nowhere the first time. This makes absolutely no sense.

Jason would have to be a scum Voyeur (unless Nexus gave the scumteam two Scum JOATS, which is a hell no type of situation), who ended up counterclaiming his partner after being run up immediately after him, and also had Stubbs claiming a strong JOAT while he claimed a more reasonable weak JOAT.

Nacho-scum requires me not using my rolecop N2 (while killing a fruit vendor) and partners not submitting it for me, then pretty much forcing myself to clear her and not looking for power roles anywhere else although we would be expecting a town more powerful than fruit vendor/JOAT. It also requires pseudo strongman and rolecop and scum JOAT against a three close to useless roles and a tracker, which seems like shitty balance to me.

PA is town unless the pseudo strongman is also a ninja, which is also ridiculously unbalanced.
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Post Post #1084 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 4:46 am

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In post 1082, fferyllt wrote:What does this do you your Amrun read, and how comfortable are you with the town group?
My amrun townread is holding up better than my townread on you.
I'd expect you to be either A) confident in autowin and moving things along, or B) attacking the cleared group in a way that makes sense. You've been throwing vague suspicion around constantly, but nothing overly impressive/worrisome.
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Post Post #1085 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 4:47 am

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Ok. so it comes down to Amrun or me then. And from your perspective we're on autowin?
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Post Post #1086 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 4:47 am

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Yep.
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Post Post #1087 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 4:52 am

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Good.

VOTE: JacobSavage
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Post Post #1088 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 5:24 am

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Votecount 4.3:


JacobSavage (4-LYNCH)-
Nachomamma8, RachMarie, Amrun, fferyllt

Not voting ()-
penguin_alien, JacobSavage, JasonWazza

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch. Deadline is at 9pm BST on Thursday 24th October 2013

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JacobSavage - Penelope Clearwater - Hogwarts-aligned Townie - Lynched Day 4


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Post Post #1089 (ISO) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:34 am

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Lucky2u replaces JasonWazza

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Post Post #1090 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 3:20 am

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RachMarie - Aragog - town-aligned Tracker - Petrified Night 4


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Post Post #1091 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 4:45 am

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Post Post #1092 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 5:00 am

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Hi Lucky. Are you caught up?
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Post Post #1093 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 5:18 am

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I skimmed, but just for fun (and so I can test the scummy waters) what's everyone's view of what's happened?
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Post Post #1094 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 8:44 am

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fferyllt is not a malfoy.
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In post 1083, Nachomamma8 wrote:The only thing that could possibly be accomplished is if there is some reason to doubt any of the PRs. Rach would have to be a scum tracker who followed me not once, but TWICE after she found me going nowhere the first time. This makes absolutely no sense.

Jason would have to be a scum Voyeur (unless Nexus gave the scumteam two Scum JOATS, which is a hell no type of situation), who ended up counterclaiming his partner after being run up immediately after him, and also had Stubbs claiming a strong JOAT while he claimed a more reasonable weak JOAT.

Nacho-scum requires me not using my rolecop N2 (while killing a fruit vendor) and partners not submitting it for me, then pretty much forcing myself to clear her and not looking for power roles anywhere else although we would be expecting a town more powerful than fruit vendor/JOAT. It also requires pseudo strongman and rolecop and scum JOAT against a three close to useless roles and a tracker, which seems like shitty balance to me.

PA is town unless the pseudo strongman is also a ninja, which is also ridiculously unbalanced.
the relevant bit is that pa/you/me are all pretty much confirmed town except in ridiculous scenarios, and amrun/fferyllt are the scumteam.

Vote: Amrun


and I think I'm going to lynch Amrun first so that I have more time to talk to ffery-scum who was probably amazed that I was reading her wrong this game.
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Post Post #1095 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:32 am

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How do you feel about letting fferyllt-scum be amazed from the dead thread?
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Post Post #1096 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:33 am

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I feel perfectly fine about it.
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Post Post #1097 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:14 am

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Please read the rules next time. It's not difficult.
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Post Post #1098 (ISO) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 7:58 pm

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I'm tempted to go for the autowin except that I'm not 100% on Nacho. Feeling paranoid, but Amrun must be a Malfoy, given the Draco claim that could be a fakeclaim for Lucius. If it's a specific cop for one Mafia member, with zero chances of a false positive, it's not a bad role.

Before RachMarie claimed Tracker, Nacho would have had three choices for lynches for town to follow from fferyllt, RachMarie, Amrun even today after getting JS strung up. If Nacho's scum and one of those is a partner, it makes it easy to direct the 5p LyLo lynch onto a target of his choosing. His willingness to change to fferyllt is encouraging. I need to sleep on this.
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Post Post #1099 (ISO) » Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:06 am

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It's not Amrun unless she is a ninja. I used my reporter last night on her and she was home so she wasn't out killing.
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