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Post Post #1075 (ISO) » Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:59 pm

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In post 1074, Master Mew wrote:You've been calling me scum for unelaborated reasons for several phases now - this has been the longstanding disagreement between us, it is hardly a recent development. You'll throw my name into a list of "prob-scum," without explanation, I'll ask why, and you'll say I'm being defensive - I'll press for further explanation of your scumread on me, then you'll say it's mostly because I'm being defensive.

You don't see how that's frustrating?

I feel like I've gone over this before and I don't want to anymore. I'm sorry. :(
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Post Post #1076 (ISO) » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:29 pm

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In post 1069, Cheery Dog wrote:wind-up has now replaced Lincolm.

I don't have a Role PM, but I'd rather pass on the slot to RedPanda anyway.
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Post Post #1077 (ISO) » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:54 pm

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In post 1076, wind-up wrote:
In post 1069, Cheery Dog wrote:wind-up has now replaced Lincolm.

I don't have a Role PM, but I'd rather pass on the slot to RedPanda anyway.

I could have sworn I sent one, must of had a problem I didn't notice when I submitted (reminder to check my sent messages as well as seeing it's not in outbox).
Would have been nice to know you were going that option.

ok then
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I think I forgot to press the add button.

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Post Post #1078 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:54 am

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Probably no posting from me today. Busy RL day + plus waiting for replacement to get in...catch up...provide thoughts.

I'm still leaning (heavily) on Matt or Mew. Not seeing DV scum and last slot pretty much confirmed based on, iirc, his claim being confirmed. Unless there is a scum watcher which I doubt.
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Post Post #1079 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:00 am

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Hey guys.
Let me begin by talking about why I actually wanted to replace into this game.

the last post of the game at the point was havingfitz's 1064. and looking at that thought that the scumbag would be obvious enough after a read through. I saw who Havingfitz was voting for and Projectmatt was at L-1 at one point in this day.

I read the first three pages and I was outraged that you guys thought projectmatt was scum. Just the first three pages with his interactions with rob13 makes him obv town. skills like that are not found with amateur scum and the scum in this game were not that good.

then I started reading as my job had gotten significantly harder and the number of replacements in this game made it an even harder job to keep track of who was who.

But then something made it easier rob13 had the similar interactions with havingfitz on day 2. I still can't believe you guys got suckered into lynching your jailkeeper over rob13.

And then Bud actually told you guys to lynch master mew after you guys lynched rob13. and conveniently bud died, the guy who would have pushed master mews lynch. who do you guys lynch the next day... N.

You guys might think that in my head it was between deasvail and mew. but it really was not. I really like how deasvail is trying to get mastermew lynched.

but the biggest thing is this
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Post Post #1080 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:03 am

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In post 430, Human Destroyer wrote:I don't like wam's nor Bub Bidderskins' complete lack of content throughout the entire game

Also, as of Page 7, I find projectmatt a less appealing vote.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: wam

Back to wam because he's a worse offender than bidderskins tbh

In post 431, Human Destroyer wrote:Eh I think chkflip is probably town too

Sorry to disappoint you Junpei :(

In post 432, Human Destroyer wrote:Ion needs more content too

Junpei and Empire are probably town

In post 436, Human Destroyer wrote:Nope changed my mind again

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Ion67[/unvote]

(Cheery I apologize in advance for any more vote changes I make)

In post 437, Human Destroyer wrote:EBWOP:

VOTE: Ion67

In post 438, Human Destroyer wrote:HOORAY FINALLY DONE

Okay actually that wasn't that bad

But yeah I'm satisfied with an Ion vote for now

In post 440, Rob14 wrote:Yeah, nevermind, HD is our lynch today.

Vote: HD


Coming out voting three lurkers and none of them on a major wagon looks very bad by itself, let alone when you consider his willingness to compromise for a deadline lynch earlier. This makes me think his willingness to push through the deadline lynch was entirely artificial and fake.

In post 442, Human Destroyer wrote:Oh no

I have my own opinions

I must be scum

Yeah that's what I get out of these posts

In post 445, Human Destroyer wrote:Okay I played horribly this game I'll admit

I'm not even going to blame Breakfast, I was really,
really
bad.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Human Destroyer

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Both scumbags were online at the same time. one scumbag was getting lynched.

I mean looking at that its so fucking obvious that one idiot told the other idiot "hey you're getting lynched, vote for your buddy and bus him and don't make it too obvious that you're bussing him so vote for few more guys and then after you go all crazy like that, I'll vote for you so it gives me a good reason to vote for you so nobody suspects me."

I mean it does look crystal clear. not to mention the obvious scumbag interactions that mastermew and rob13 had.
I mean reading through them was really awkward. and I'm sure those guys were like "what the fuck are we saying, they're going to lynch us for this but we can't stop."

I mean seriously lets end this game and give the dead some relief that we aren't going to fuck this up.

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Post Post #1081 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:31 am

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Red...how do the interactions you quote above between Rob and Human Destroyer implicate Mew...if at all?

What are your reads on the other players? Can you rank them and perhaps provide a comment or two? A fresh look at the game would be of interest.
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Post Post #1082 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:33 am

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Ion is mew isn't he?

All three of you are town.
Mew is scum.

I think I covered pretty much everything about you guys.
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Post Post #1083 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:29 am

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ok actually since i've been super busy with homework and i've already made it plainly obvious i think master mew is mafia im probably gonna hammer but i'll wait until tonight
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Post Post #1084 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:43 am

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Yay! Now let's lynch Mew.
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Post Post #1085 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:23 am

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VOTE: Mew
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Post Post #1086 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:29 am

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Vote Count 5.3 (FINAL)


projectmatt (1) Master Mew
Master Mew (3) DeasVail, RedPanda, havingfitz (lynch!)
havingfitz (0)
RedPanda (0)
DeasVail (0)
Not voting: projectmatt


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Post Post #1087 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:37 am

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You decide the pokemon is the remaining master of the mafia and lynching him would stop all this bother so that the town can live happily ever after.

Were you right?

No, this thread is remaining locked for another 60 hours, as
Master Mew
was a
Vanilla Townie


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Post Post #1088 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:47 pm

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The sun rose what would probably be the last time in print this game to discover the remains of RedPanda shot by a crossbow and dead hidden amongst the leaves and brances of a bush - the sun struggled to see this until you dragged RedPanda's body out into the open where the sun shone actually onto it revealing him to be a watcher.

RedPanda
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Town Watcher
- shot night 5.


Vote Count 6.0


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havingfitz (0)
DeasVail (0)
Not voting: DeasVail, projectmatt, havingfitz


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Post Post #1089 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:45 am

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Alright.

I retract all reads.

It's time for a serious re examination of this game and I'd like to request that nobody even dare put up a vote yet, although I think that goes without saying.
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Post Post #1090 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:55 pm

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Oh fun.
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Post Post #1091 (ISO) » Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:36 am

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What Matt (and DV) said.

I was tied up all day yesterday for work and won't have time to dig into this game until Monday at the soonest. I.e. don't expect my re-reads/analysis to happen this weekend.
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Post Post #1092 (ISO) » Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:47 am

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Right. I'll provide a little bit of reads this weekend - probably tomorrow and I'll try to do quite a lot by the end of this week (Friday).
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Post Post #1093 (ISO) » Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:13 am

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Sorry, this will have to wait. :(
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Post Post #1094 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:44 am

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Poking game.

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Post Post #1095 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:04 am

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Prodded...sorry mod.

Didn't look in here over the weekend (busy with family).
Didn't look in here yesterday (busy at work).
Snowed in today (with family) so no deep digging today.

I promise content tomorrow.

Also mod...might as well let you know now...
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Post Post #1096 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:18 am

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Well, I guess it's worth pointing out that I am semi-V/LA because currently I am working on three different exhaustive research papers due this week and by the time I get free-time, I'm usually too exhausted to actually get content.

Either tomorrow or Thursday though, I'm going to try very hard to get some stuff out.
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Post Post #1097 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:21 pm

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So, I really don't have much idea what I'm going to do. I know I said PMatt the previous day, but now I'm all unsure. :(

Anyway, here we go:

My first problem is that Fitz is just the kind of the player that will always give me a scummy feel, so is it because he's scum here or am I just imagining things again?

Ok, if I were to just vote right now, I'd go with PMatt because his play yesterday gives off the feeling of scum trying to look town (the questions he asked me were a little weird considering timing). But I don't know!!!

Eh... I'm thinking PMatt.

I guess I just feel that there's more I can say that's scummy about him and more flaws with my town-reasoning.
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Post Post #1098 (ISO) » Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:09 am

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OK...starting to do some ISO'ing today. This game is my priority at the moment.

A look at PerV/Ray/Deasvail exchanges with scum first:

No interactions with Breakfast/HD on D1. (null to negative)

In Ray call Rob "pretty obv town." (negative to null)

In DV says "Suspicion on Rob isn't good at all." (negative to null)

In DV says "hesistant to call Rob scum" because of his good D2 play (negative to null)

In DV is starting to say he could see Rob as scum (for reasons he doesn't necessarily agree with). (null)

In DV asks for people to convince him that Rob is scum. (null....to negative)

I find to be an unusual post. Especially from someone who for the most part has had a town read on Rob. DV doesn't put any qualifiers on the statement that he isn't scum-buddies with Rob. Nothing like...IF Rob flips scum. It looks like he knows Rob is going to flip scum and is defending himself in advance.

He goes on several times requesting that people convince him of Rob's guilt and trying to get a wagon going on Mew.

In summary DV's hammer on Rob come across as very reluctant. He really wanted a Mew wagon. It is also interesting to note that while DV stated that if Rob flipped scum it probably meant that Mew wasn't...he still led the way on Mew's mislynch 2 days later.

That's a first cut at DV looking at his posting towards our confirmed scum. I also plan to look at what they had to sy towards him when I get the chance but I wanted to get something going in here if for any other reason just to spur some conversation.

Until I look at how Rob and Breakfast/HD interacted with the DV slot I'm not prepared to say I think he (DV) is more or less likely to be scum. I will say looking him over more closely did open up the possibility for me that he
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Post Post #1099 (ISO) » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:19 pm

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Alright, tomorrow. I'll have my assignment handed in and then I can have a lot more free time to actually do something this game.

I do have a question for Deas though - where does he feel that the timing of my questions was poor and would he mind quoting the specific ones, please?

Deas, you also say "am I imagining things again?" Have you have any previous experience with Having in your games before? Yes or no?

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