Mini 1671 - Eclipse Mafia - Total Eclipse (Game Over)

pisskop · Post Post #1050 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:57 am

And Juls has been reactive in nature today.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #1051 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:58 am

I was busy and then my head wasn't into the game and I thought BBT was lying scum.

I REALLY didn't like Zoronos popping in with his "hey guys I'm here!" post.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #1052 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:00 am

I was inactive in all my games for the same amount of time. Don't act like it's alignment indicative.

Zoronos · Post Post #1053 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:03 am

In post 1029, Juls wrote:Zoro, pretend PB is already dead and flipped scum. Who are his partners?

Peace is one. I don't know the other.
That's why I want to lynch Peace. I don't see a world where he's *not* on the scum team. Pisskop I could choose wrong, Peace I don't think I can.
If I have to make a Peace vs ABR choice, I'll do my best to make the right one, but you're asking me to leave what a really high percentage shot sitting on the table over gambling on 'lose the game'.

Juls · Post Post #1054 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:07 am

No, I am asking you to show me some evidence that PB is scum with someone else. Like for instance, I would have to go back and verify but I don't recall a single interaction between ABR and PB. That may mean they are scum together.

I'm asking you to pretend we already lynched Peace and he flipped scum. Who do you see as his partners and why?

Juls · Post Post #1055 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:08 am

I have a 3/4 shot of being right on scum. I am town hunting at this point more than scum hunting.

Zoronos · Post Post #1056 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:14 am

In post 1026, pisskop wrote:Like why are we going to lynch PB today Zoro?

The stand alone case:
He's done almost nothing except no-reason hop-ons to trains. His scum list is almost entirely people scum reading him. His play has been very reactive (look at his engagements - He says basically nothing when on offensive, posts large quantities and quickly when on defense). He hasn't shown effort to explore / refine his scum reads; He talks at people, not to / with them. Or more frequently doesn't talk to them at all.
When answering cases, he as often as not just turns it into an attack on the caser (check out his reply to Juls' post talking about him on D2).
He doesn't show effort to work with his town reads; he doesn't work to engage and convince. Peace has been town reading your slot since D2. Show me where Peace attempted to engage / dialogue with you.

Kalimar · Post Post #1057 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:20 am

Vote Count 4.2

Not Voting

(7): Equinox, Albert B. Rampage, Juls, pisskop, Green Crayons, Zoronos, PeaceBringer

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-06-19 17:15:00)

PeaceBringer · Post Post #1058 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 1:59 pm

In post 993, Zoronos wrote:Because I don't see a way to reduce the game state to anything other than PB vs Zor.
So that means I must find a way to change your mind, and so far my cases just get ignored.

Are ABR and Juls both bussing Pisskop?

well that is down right stupid and dumb ass play...
you have locked in on me and are so locked full of confirmation bias, most likely- don't really know because all you do is say you suspect me and keep with the vote.
If you are truly tunneling town, take me out of the picture and then what...

PeaceBringer · Post Post #1059 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 2:07 pm

In post 1053, Zoronos wrote:
In post 1029, Juls wrote:Zoro, pretend PB is already dead and flipped scum. Who are his partners?

Peace is one. I don't know the other.
That's why I want to lynch Peace. I don't see a world where he's *not* on the scum team. Pisskop I could choose wrong, Peace I don't think I can.
If I have to make a Peace vs ABR choice, I'll do my best to make the right one, but you're asking me to leave what a really high percentage shot sitting on the table over gambling on 'lose the game'.

An this right here is your problem, because I am not scum... and now you reduce it to me or ABR... so exactly why have you cleared anyone else...

PeaceBringer · Post Post #1060 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 2:11 pm

In post 1056, Zoronos wrote:
In post 1026, pisskop wrote:Like why are we going to lynch PB today Zoro?

The stand alone case:
He's done almost nothing except no-reason hop-ons to trains. His scum list is almost entirely people scum reading him. His play has been very reactive (look at his engagements - He says basically nothing when on offensive, posts large quantities and quickly when on defense). He hasn't shown effort to explore / refine his scum reads; He talks at people, not to / with them. Or more frequently doesn't talk to them at all.
When answering cases, he as often as not just turns it into an attack on the caser (check out his reply to Juls' post talking about him on D2).
He doesn't show effort to work with his town reads; he doesn't work to engage and convince. Peace has been town reading your slot since D2. Show me where Peace attempted to engage / dialogue with you.

and none of that is inherently scum... it is just a different way of playing. You have not taken the time to get to know me at all. Did you check the FBG game. Nope. Did you check anything out regarding at all. Nope. You just lock and load. This is typical from folks from here and I am astounded that you come from some other place with only 1 game here and sound like you have been here for years... but hey, go ahead and lynch me and lose then game and then I can point out how stubborn and arrogant you are. I don't show my work or thoughts more often than not. Hell, most people, even here don't or they make shit up. This is actually legitimate thought process. It is week but it at least gets me feeling a tad better about you feeling town.

Green Crayons · Post Post #1061 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 3:37 pm

Reread D1 + BBT's case on Juls (lol who pays attention to the dead?).

Happy with this.

VOTE: Juls

Juls · Post Post #1062 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 3:59 pm

Well, go scum.

Juls · Post Post #1063 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:00 pm

Lol...stupid auto-correct is going to definitely get me lynched now.

That should be "gg scum"

Juls · Post Post #1064 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:00 pm

You should really Unvote GC.

Juls · Post Post #1065 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:07 pm

GC.....lets talk. As soon as they organize I am lynched. Please Unvote.

Juls · Post Post #1066 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:07 pm

How irresponsible of you to just vote and leave and not even give me a chance to defend myself. This is BS.

Green Crayons · Post Post #1067 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:09 pm

Green Crayons · Post Post #1068 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:09 pm

What do you want to talk about?

Green Crayons · Post Post #1069 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:10 pm

The way I see it

1 of <PB OR Zoro> + 2 of <PK, ABR, Juls>

Green Crayons · Post Post #1070 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:10 pm

PK + ABR team?

mmmmm, good show I guess, what with that voting of each other?

Juls · Post Post #1071 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:11 pm

Please Unvote first.

Green Crayons · Post Post #1072 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:12 pm

UNVOTE: Juls

Won't kill me.

Juls · Post Post #1073 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:15 pm

I was planning on analyzing all interactions between the 4 combinations over the weekend. You have:

ABR, PB, PK
ABR, PB, Zoros
ABR, PK, Zoros
PB, PK, Zoros

I wanted to see how they interacted with each other. I don't have time to do the analysis during the week. I work and can only phone post.

Green Crayons · Post Post #1074 (ISO) » Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:16 pm

Alrighty, I'm in no rush I guess.

WoOOWOOWOwooow See y'all after Equi and Juls lay down some knowledge.