Open 876 - Ice Mafia PT

[yessiree]

oh btw can you explain the kill on osuka to me? are we avoiding shooting obvtowns like python suggested?

[Aureal]

I'm trying to pocket the mod by shooting a toxic player so she'll hopefully have less work to do policing player behavior.

Bonus points if he's actually Fire!

My reads suck, I have no idea who they actually are. I was willing to go along with Python's pairing but they're gone now so it's out of their hands! They couldn't get a lim on the Bulge/Drew supposed team through so may as well leave them alone and see if people are more willing to go there now. I think Drew might actually be scum, Bulge I have no real scumread on, but I don't really want to shoot Drew here, he's cool and I think we've got a bit of a rapport going this game that I hopefully can use.

This is my first time as mafia after coming back from a 16-year hiatus, I have no real plan.

[yessiree]

:highfive:
im in the same boat as you tbh

i think the choice is fine, python might've wanted to shoot osuka out of spite, but since they are no longer here it becomes good WIFOM material

[Alianna]

Day 2 begins.

[yessiree]

Im actually thinking Malakittens + Black, both are individually scummy

[Aureal]

*shrug* Mala's been basically nonexistent due to being sick and that's just how she is, little activity. I am townreading Black, but like I said my reads suck and Black is a crafty one. That would be a weird team though. They might be in trouble though if they are because they're both getting a lot of suspicion.

[yessiree]

Black is deliberately staying in the nullread range, generally non-committal and non-confrontational, but still mostly a gut read for me at this point

[Aureal]

Well if so, it nearly got her flipped yesterday.

Much like Python, I guess.

I'm so glad those two didn't end up as a team.

[yessiree]

well if people still want to flip Black today I'm not gonna complain

[Aureal]

Feel free to push there! I'll still be townreading her, unless I see some reason not to.

[yessiree]

do you know what was enchant's read on my slot?

[Aureal]

Never said anything about Python (other than it being a dumb coding language), was voting the counter wagon and didn't lolhammer when he briefly had an opportunity. So probably not a scumread.

[yessiree]

lol sorry if that question was kinda random, think of it as me tryna distance

[yessiree]

hmm im unable to form a scumread on bulge, python is the +scum looking one from the bulge vs python exchange

[yessiree]

Like, in particular, I'd really like to hear how Mala apparently decided there was scum between bianco and Black, struggled to get out a bianco vote while apparently hopped up on NyQuil or something, and now we get no info on any of that, just a weird vote on Enchant for a very Enchant-like post. Maybe Mala wants us to forget all that but... it's a little hard to forget.

it would be cool if you can drop a casual remark on how mala is getting voted but not oclaxian when they both went after Enchant, I have some bs I can put out there to paint mala in a bad light when compared with ocla, so hopefully someone hammers

[Aureal]

If Mala is scum I think Bulge might be her partner because of her pushing Python to E-1 while Bulge was the other wagon, but otherwise I don't really see the case on Bulge. And furtiveglance won't cough one up even though I keep trying to get him to.

Thinking Black, furtive, Enchant, Kokichi, Oclax are town. So probably tonight we should shoot Drew or Bulge.

And I doubt we really need to encourage someone to hammer, this is a bloodthirsty game. Drew and Bulge are both off that wagon and it'll be interesting to see if one of them does.

[yessiree]

if mala flips scum, mala's partner will most definitely shoot the one that hammered, so we have more nk choices

if mala flips town, im thinking we shoot in {furtive, kokichi}

[yessiree]

10 of us remain; 4 scum.

I don't really see 4 scum full stop, let alone 4 without Mala. But let me give it a try.

[Black, Malakittens] + [The Bulge, Kokichi Oma]

whats ur hypothetical teams? thinking mines probably {black, mala} + {bulge, aureal (you)} with my current headspace

[yessiree]

resisting urge to scumread this post lol, I dont think the kind of questions you are asking here are from a town mindset

Kokichi, do you still think Mala and Black are on opposing scum teams? I'm struggling to make sense of this dynamic. If Mala is scum, why go back and forth on Black from sheeping to scumreading like she did, say there's got to be scum between her and bianco, then totally drop that thought after bianco flips town? It's too chaotic.

do u think u can handle a little bit of pressure?

[Aureal]

Mm, let's not distract from what's going on right now. Especially since you didn't come out with suspicion earlier- it might raise questions about whether you waited to coordinate it in the PT. I think we've already got a good bit of distance from my position on Python. And I feel like I may have increased my odds of getting shot if what I suggested about Mala trying to take Black down with her is right, eheheh.

[Aureal]

Hmm, you know, I think my odds of surviving the night might actually be better if I publicly link Bulge with Mala. That way it's out there already rather than something they might think I'll realize more easily than others since I tr Black.

[yessiree]

sure why not, go for it
idk if I'd shoot you if I were fire maf though, i'd try to take you to endgame

[yessiree]

leaving this here

Spoiler: bulge on mala

hi mala!

VOTE: mala

im sorry it has to be this way

grim: well theres the difference lol. we dont read alts as their main, nor do we metaread bc meta is shit.

also elaborate on those vibes.

Basically the only people who I'd expect to make a serious push on Mala here are people who know Mala's meta (Where they don't normally do the unvotes like this), Dragon hasn't played with Mala before though so I'd have expected him to mentally slot Mala in the chaotic!Town box or something

idgi

mainly the part about mala's meta

mainly the part about mala's meta

The vote hopping is pretty out of character from Mala from what I've seen, they're not usually this flighty? I guess would be the word?

-A

seems a little early to make a call lke this but ok

Mala is likely scum too. But I think opposite team from black so far is my read.

why is that?

Mala's kinda just existing this game

-A

furtive and icedragon and aureal as well

mala wagon looks like good enough company, tho i'd still prefer python. will catch up this afternoon

caught up!

idk mala doesn't really seem partnered

Malakittens - some not great posts but nothing that makes any sense to me from scum, bad d1 lim, seems unpartnered as i mentioned

[Aureal]

Yeah, I skimmed his iso before posting and there was a surprising amount of Mala defense given how little she's done.

So now I feel more wrong about it, lol.

[yessiree]

you're overthinking too much

that ISO is scummy as hell lol