Newbie 2109 - Mafia PT

[Save The Dragons]

i didn't end up efforting unfortuantely

i won't really be around for a quick hammer today until later but i doubt anyone's going to shove a vote on a townie yet

[AurorusVox]

It’s time for me to engage LLD isn’t it

I think she townreads you at least!

[AurorusVox]

People are gonna wonder why I’m still alive if we get you out today

[AurorusVox]

I’m getting greedy and trying to get weuler wagon out there as a possibility, but it also has the helpful side effect of stoking the possibility of LLD wagon…

I’m hoping LLD will push me to vote weuler, if she sees it as her idea then I think it’ll be likelier to get off the ground!

[AurorusVox]

I’m hoping this is looking like I’m trying to distance from weuler without wanting to commit to voting them, hence a push could be made to “prove” I’m not his partner.

I also considered a ballsy move of basically 1v1’ing you by voting early, at which point if you’re not quick hammered it proves either you’re scum or I am. But I don’t think we need this yet, I actually think we might be able to take a Day 3 win (fingers crossed!)

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im hoping for a day 3 win. sorry i'm not in the thread yet, i had a busy day at work yesterday and was social after work, so i haven't had the time to look at the game and post

i think if it drags to day 4 we're a little in trouble so i'd like to see if we can win here

[AurorusVox]

If you get limmed today I’ll kill LLD and set arko/weuler against each other
If anything it would be better that I got limmed and then LLD lims weuler over you

PS did you really lose a post or was that liberal use of the truth

[Save The Dragons]

That was legit! Lol

[AurorusVox]

When is a good time to put a vote down? I feel like voting weuler soon.

[Save The Dragons]

i would give it some time to see what other people do. let's wait to see if arko goes crazy and votes someone

it's a little risky to wait but there's no rush here

if you vote weuler you're kind of committing to a potential 1 v 1 with them, i think you may need to shade them a little more maybe since you've gone hard on me

[Save The Dragons]

although i think maybe you voting weuler is the eventual play and hoping someone follows suit so i can hammer at leisure from nowhere rather than wait for a risky quick hammer

[AurorusVox]

Just quickly explain to me what shade means lol

[Save The Dragons]

lol like when scum tries to make a townie look bad that's shade. just give some reasons why you suspect weuler, make it more obvious you might be voting in that direction

[Save The Dragons]

i could be missing posts of yours so if you've already detailed your weuler case then you're good, i just want it to look natural of why you're sussing me for 2 days but voting someone else

since you're a more analytical player, having that analysis is good because it looks townie and natural

[AurorusVox]

Cheers, I’ll have a look and see what I’ve said about them other than just by pairing them.

Also I think LLD will think I’m bussing and probably vote weuler, and my worry is that I’m turning weuler against me the longer this goes on.

If weuler votes me first then LLD probably hops on that wagon instead.

[Save The Dragons]

that's fair. if you think you should vote weuler soon before arko speaks, that's okay and maybe we can end the game without his interference.

i just don't want it to be like "I suspect STD the most. yolo vote weuler time!" because i don't think you could get away with it.

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and i know you know this i just want to be clear

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i dunno ultimately you should do whatever feels most natural and what you think you would do if you were town trying to convince people that weuler is the scum

[AurorusVox]

Ha yeah it’s okay. I think I’ve been showing a willingness to go after weuler today, I’ve spoken about his chaining of eliminations and how his potential scumpairs could be scum motivated

Have you had a chance to read my iso of day 3 looking for weuler comments? Might be useful to see an outside perspective on whether there’s enough shade

[Save The Dragons]

i dunno if you've done enough in that area. but it depends more on what you think, if you think you've done enough you can go for it.

i don't want you to post a clunky weuler post out of nowhere if it wouldn't seem natural, but i also don't want you to vote weuler now if it wouldn't seem natural either. it's hard.

i recommend if you do shade weuler you do it in a post that has callouts like @LLD to other people because a lot of your posts have that kind of style where you talk about one thing, then break and talk about another, etc.

if you want to draft something here and i can take a look you can do that too and i can give my opinion on whether or not it seems reasonable for you to be voting weuler.

[Save The Dragons]

maybe i'm being too cautious sometimes you have to risk it for the biscuit

if arko shows up and puts down a slam dunk case on me then we're in trouble i just don't know what he's going to do, if he puts a slam dunk case on weuler we're golden and on LLD we have options so it's kind of a 1/3 good, 1/3 neutral, 1/3 bad chance

[AurorusVox]

Do you think even if arko slam dunks you, with my suspicions on you I could survive off the not av-std scum pair myth and go into d4 vs weuler and LLD?

[AurorusVox]

Also I do think that LLD might think she’s put pressure on me and cornered me into voting weuler so it wouldn’t necessarily matter if it looked a bit scummy as we only need LLD’s vote and then you can hammer it.

My nightmare scenario is I vote weuler then LLD votes me anyway. But I believe if I go today you win tomorrow with you-LLD-weuler (as in LLD would vote weuler)

[Save The Dragons]

Do you think even if arko slam dunks you, with my suspicions on you I could survive off the not av-std scum pair myth and go into d4 vs weuler and LLD?

yes

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Also I do think that LLD might think she’s put pressure on me and cornered me into voting weuler so it wouldn’t necessarily matter if it looked a bit scummy as we only need LLD’s vote and then you can hammer it.

My nightmare scenario is I vote weuler then LLD votes me anyway. But I believe if I go today you win tomorrow with you-LLD-weuler (as in LLD would vote weuler)

yeah i'm not sure what she's liable to do tbh

i agree with the second part of this. im worried LLD might re-eval tomorrow if it came to that but we'll see.